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LCHorn

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  1. Agree with this-I suspect Biden’s handlers found themselves backed into allowing more public appearances by their candidate, who hadn’t realized just how sheltered he had been until the post debate reaction. It just kind of lined up in the way you hoped it would go-“Well, Mr President, if you still feel fit for the job and the public perception improves then our problem is solved. If it reinforces that of the debate and numbers continue to decline, well that solves a problem, too.” Biden is no master strategist on this-it was all just beautiful chaos but no less remarkable for lacking a guiding hand. I’m also a little hopeful that the previous Harris criticism that she’s a bad people manager is at least somewhat tempered by inheriting Biden campaign staff.
  2. I just don’t see anyone spending time on this. The attorneys for the Trump campaign are going to remind Trump that he’s successfully avoided federal prosecution for three years and he thinks he’s going to get action on something this hazy and of this magnitude in three months?
  3. There‘s no way Biden had time to organize anyone. If it looks that way it’s just a testament to how popular opinion had organized around his potential withdrawal.
  4. Pos rep for a good post five days ago, neg rep for calling scoreboard. And speaking of predictions, I expect rather than a blitz primary, all of the potential contenders will have endorsed Harris in the next 24 hours.
  5. Not picking on you, but do you really think the problem in the electorate is that they just need someone to explain “how shit is broken”?
  6. This is, I think, the main consequence of delaying the inevitable, and it’s that the GOP donor class has gotten excited over the prospect of facing a weak candidate. I doubt it’s useful for getting Trump votes but the money is going to get spent hammering every flub made by the Democratic nominee.
  7. If I might share some of the hope that belied my prediction (mostly lifted from the Pod Save America boys) that Biden would ultimately withdraw from the race (I think he would resign, too-it’s the only way to be seen as a kingmaker, but that remains to be seen), it’s that Harris or Dem X is going to have the opportunity to have all of the media’s attention. I share with @Bozo_Casanova in an affinity for a Harris/Whitmer ticket (though he may have moved on by now), really like a Harris/Beshear ticket, and frankly all of the versions discussed are kind of exciting. I’m even onboard for a blitz primary, and if it ends up Newsome or whoever I think they keep the Biden 2020 coalition together and reinvigorate it with some the 70% of Americans who know Biden is too old. And isn’t that what Democrats are begging for, anyway? Give us something to excite us? I’ll add that (and I think it’s something @mdmost wrote about ten pages ago that started me thinking about this but I may owe the idea to another poster) I think we are attributing a great deal of credit to Biden for programs passed under his administration that are the culmination of lots of Democratic wish list items kind of coming together at once. The efforts made toward green energy and infrastructure are big successes, I’ve read, but in the early going I don’t see the results (which is fine, I’m glad the government is making plans that might not come to fruition for a decade or two) and it seems like it’s bad manners to judge them with a healthy skepticism until there’s a real improvement in those areas. Anyway, my point is we may, ten years hence, look back at the Biden presidency and wonder why we were fucking around with solar panels and bridges while gender and minority rights became increasingly under threat and too little was done to address the anti-democratic practices of the GOP.
  8. I’ve been trying to keep up with this thread while traveling for the last week and the biggest recurring conflict appears to be @troph’s refusal to admit that Biden needs to step down. @troph, have you come around?
  9. This-all her support came from highly educated middle aged white people who default into “if the other side just gets hits in the face with logic and facts they’ll compromise.” Unfortunately that’s not what the greater electorate was seeking.
  10. I don’t know if you’ve been to Chuy’s post Covid but Olive Garden quality would be something of an upgrade* *note I’ve not actually been to an Olive Garden since the ‘90’s.
  11. I think what he’s saying is what can be, unburdened by what has been.
  12. That’s where I’m at. I just can’t imagine there’s a large population of former Trump voters whose affection is re-ignited because of the attack.
  13. Haha, compliments to your great (though obviously deranged) taste in movies 😄
  14. Old, impaired, whatever. You appear to be quite confident of his mental fitness. I guess you're one of the 30% of Americans that doesn't think he's too old. The problem from an electoral standpoint is you're a minority. You're also presuming those voters would make the same decision today.
  15. People have voted for a nominee is fundamentally impaired relative to who he was six months ago. Let's exaggerate your position a little bit--you think the Dems should run the same ticket if Biden was diagnosed with Alzheimer's today, just because they had a primary election that concluded a month ago? I'm not suggesting we try to run the country by polls, but the VOTERS are saying "hey, that vote we cast? We'd like to take it back." To ignore that is a great way to lose the election.
  16. I don't know why not, Levin's a voter and we don't elect Kings in this country. Levin is perfectly entitled to express his position and isn't obligated beyond that. Some of ya'll that are purported Trump opponents are leaning into very antidemocratic positions. Very pot calling kettle...
  17. This is going to seem like I’m picking on you but this is how races are lost. If you have a good candidate you don’t need to be so precious about covering up for their weaknesses. If you don’t have a good candidate then you shouldn’t be running him. It’s up to candidate Biden to argue that he’s fit for office, or do you think democracy functions best when a candidates flaws aren’t tested? Let’s remember, it’s still primary season.
  18. I’m more interested in the publicity surrounding a blitz primary, anyway. Also a great way to vet VP choices. Otherwise, onto Harris and the unburdened of what has been.
  19. I just totally disagree and think house reps going public (for or against) is exactly what they should be doing. That‘s, coincidentally, representing the views of their constituents. They don’t work for the President, they work for us (and he does, too). Look, Candidate Biden is done. He isn’t getting younger and the right play is for the Democratic Party to put forward someone else, and public pressure needs to grow to get us there.
  20. What about that statement justifies calling her a cunt? Let’s reserve that sobriquet for Ted Cruz.
  21. I favor the James Clyburn "mini-primary" with something like 8 townhalls spread over 2 months. It energizes the Dems, helps allow a consensus to develop around a replacement (instead of anointing Harris, although I'm fine with that option, too), and will totally suck all of the media oxygen away from Trump.
  22. I’d rather trade Chas and live with Loperfido’s contact issues.
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