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3 minutes ago, Deej said:

She's a no-talent ass clown.

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Seems to me she has a great talent for making money and riling up the haters.

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Obviously she’s *been* working with cowriters and producers and etc etc for a billion years but the “just marketing” thing would stick more if she was just a voice, imo. I think she’s a capable singer (to the same extent that she’s an absolute beauty) but for this much of a stretch and this many hit songs and this long as the apex pop predator you have to give her herself her proper credit. I remember You Belong With Me hitting right as I was graduating and here I am about to turn 40.

 

also just cause this pic is board and thread appropriate and I’m already leaking dad thread/im a man stuff in here-

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On 6/26/2025 at 12:49 PM, Paul Wesley said:

I think you should start with a vast arsenal of high-end instruments and gear.  Everything else flows from there.  

you know, sometimes paul...sometimes...you make me feel like a narcissist because i read your posts and i can't help but think you are talking about me.

 

18 hours ago, Celery Man said:

I’ll fight anyone I don’t give a fuck. I legitimately like Taylor Swift and have mad respect for both her talent and her work ethic, and I think she gets way too much shit for dating like 7 guys in her twenties. My daughter loves Tay Tay and I think she’s a great role model.

 

her cousins got her this shirt and I’ve tried really hard to explain how badass of a gift it is -

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her loog is in her closet and I heard strumming and singing - “Disney WOOOOOrrRrrRrLD! Disney Woooorld, oh Disney…..

WORLD”

I talk to her about how her songs are great and that she can write songs and sing them on stage like Daddy or Taylor Swift if she keeps it up.

she's obviously great as a collaborator, can write a hit like very few people have ever done, has some really good songs, and is a force of nature in terms of being prolific and the magnitude of her tours. deej is obviously way off base saying her isolated vocals are bad as he's just being a hater. that's insane. i have stem split about 40 of her songs for my girls to study...her vocals are incredibly good at connoting different emotions of songs. she's not adele, whitney houston, or maria callas but she's a plenty good singer to go along with songwriting ability.

that said, i sent my wife and older daughter to one of the shows in houston and my wife and younger daughter to one of the shows in new orleans and in retrospect, i probably would have rather used that same amount of money to buy out the entire town of tremezzo and build a house on lake como. lifetime memories for them though. and they both have that shirt.

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Look, if I have to listen to many many people claim she's one of the great singers, I'm allowed to say she's shit, and I'm probably closer to the truth than those who claim she has an iconic singing voice. That's just bullshit. 

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2 hours ago, sidis said:

probably would have rather used that same amount of money to buy out the entire town of tremezzo and build a house on lake como

 

Dude if you beat me to the punch on that I will never forgive you. 

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1 hour ago, Deej said:

Look, if I have to listen to many many people claim she's one of the great singers, I'm allowed to say she's shit, and I'm probably closer to the truth than those who claim she has an iconic singing voice. 

Did somebody say that, at least on this thread?

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7 hours ago, Deej said:

She's a no-talent ass clown.

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This is an incredibly bad take. 

She writes he own music, plays her own guitar, sings. Said fuck you to Nashville, then the same to industry.

The rights to her 1st 6 albums were bought out from under, so she went scorched earth and re-recorded them from the ground up. The streaming services dropped all the originals and started streaming the Taylor's versions. Oh, and now she owns the original versions too.

That's punk as fuck and she's a certified bad ass. If you are hating on that, I dont know what to tell you. You're in the extreme minority. She just complete the most successful music tour in history. Im sure she's losing sleep over your take. 

I love ya, @Deej, but you are just wrong here. 

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She has talent.  It’s just not in the solar system as other talented performers. 
 

I watched this live and recalled some of the glances Stevie gave Taylor (Stevie comes out around the 1:45 mark).  Taylor is not on pitch a number of times in just a couple of minutes of this song.  And it’s not a difficult song to sing. 
 

 

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7 hours ago, Celery Man said:

Obviously she’s *been* working with cowriters and producers and etc etc for a billion years but the “just marketing” thing would stick more if she was just a voice, imo. I think she’s a capable singer (to the same extent that she’s an absolute beauty) but for this much of a stretch and this many hit songs and this long as the apex pop predator you have to give her herself her proper credit. I remember You Belong With Me hitting right as I was graduating and here I am about to turn 40.

 

also just cause this pic is board and thread appropriate and I’m already leaking dad thread/im a man stuff in here-

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This pic is totally badass.

So badass that I almost didn’t notice the superfluous pickguard screws.

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18 minutes ago, Vanilla Strange Gato said:

She has talent.  It’s just not in the solar system as other talented performers. 
 

I watched this live and recalled some of the glances Stevie gave Taylor (Stevie comes out around the 1:45 mark).  Taylor is not on pitch a number of times in just a couple of minutes of this song.  And it’s not a difficult song to sing. 
 

"Talent" isn't one thing.  The lack of auto-tuning is refreshing, and nobody accused Taylor of being a great singer in the first place.  Stevie hits some green notes too.  

That next song kicks ass, missed notes nothwithstanding.  It's a fucking HOOK.  Why don't you write that hook?  That takes talent.
 

Also:  15 years ago.  21 years old.  I couldn't hit a note from a boat in the ocean when I was 21.  (Still can't.)

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