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The UGA game came down to making one play. 

Things are not gonna go smoothly vs. a UGA defense. Lots went wrong for Texas, as said before 20 things went wrong. Bad breaks, bad penalties, and some bad football. But ugly games happen, and one team wins them. 

In the end, we needed our QB to make one fucking play late in the game. Just one. He has the ball in his hands every down. It is the most important position in sports. He is the 3rd year starter, and leader of the offense. One fucking play. Just like Washington last year. Good news is he has another opportunity next week (and hopefully more) to get it done. 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

This was the play Lunch with Coach brought up.. I dont understand why we are working to the left side here.

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Here is where you see Golden breaking open on the crosser

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I would love to know the reads here.

I think Quinn makes a shitty lofted throw. If he hits Wingo out of the break in with a pass on a rope it's an easy catch. Wingo turned his defender around with his route and was open just out of the break. 

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Do you feel more comfortable with Arch hitting deep passes against loading box or Quinn?

So hypothetically what if Quinn throws a pick 6 or a fumble 6 in the playoff?

We probably lose since the playoff is about winning no matter what. But what if Dillon Gabriel throws 5 interceptions against us in the final four. Are we gonna lose that one 

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2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I would love to know the reads here.

No idea, there was plenty of time, even Sark could have told QE where the throw should go, he should have known anyway. Maybe it was too loud and he just pissed down his leg on this play. Bad read either way.

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4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I think Quinn makes a shitty lofted throw. If he hits Wingo out of the break in with a pass on a rope it's an easy catch.

I just wonder if that is a 1 wr route. Numbers favor working the trip side. Cb was able to re-route Wingo to the numbers (He tried to get an outside release, surprise Georgia is coached well). Not ton of room there.

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The back and forth against or for qe is great for message board fodder but damn, every team has issues and bad games happen for every team. The talk like our team is the only one that is shitty is erroneous. Just win baby whether Trey Owens or Quinn or arch is moving the ball. 

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4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

The UGA game came down to making one play. 

Which one play is that? Oh that is right, only one of the ones Quinn missed right? Not the dropped passes, missed blocks, stupid penalties, no calls by officials or missed kick plays is it. Of course not.

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1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

Which one play is that? Oh that is right, only one of the ones Quinn missed right? Not the dropped passes, missed blocks, stupid penalties, no calls by officials or missed kick plays is it. Of course not.

JFC, man. Read the words in the post. 

I'll spell it out for you, though. The final drive of regulation or OT. 

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Will Arch be better next year than QE has ever been at Texas? - Yes

Does QE make mistakes that a 3-year starter, who has had the same coaches & system, should not make? - Yes

Is there anything other than a major injury that will convince Sark to play Arch instead of QE? - No

Now lock this f***ing thread. 

 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I just wonder if that is a 1 wr route. Numbers favor working the trip side. Cb was able to re-route Wingo to the numbers (He tried to get an outside release, surprise Georgia is coached well). Not ton of room there.

 

 

Look at these screenshots I took....Wingo is open for a pass that is on a rope. 

 

 

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If this is put on Wingo it's a catch and he we likely looking at 3rd and about 4-6. Instead he lofts to the endzone for no god damn reason.

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10 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

You want to see loaded boxes, put Arch in. If they use him more, he is going to have to throw the ball some to lighten that box. I also wouldn't mind a 5 wide empty set draw from Arch. Exactly what Georgia did to us with their backup of course Makuba almost decapitated him. 

All this BS is really interesting and all, but Quinn is at his best when teams play off. 1st half of Vandy was a great example. Texas ate them up underneath and in that game. Georgia is bit different animal. They went cover 3 and a lot of 2 man. I would love teams to play a soft cover 4 vs Texas in the playoffs.

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Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

JFC, man. Read the words in the post. 

I'll spell it out for you, though. The final drive of regulation or OT. 

Nah, you have made your position clear, you come in here and dog on a kid because he didn't meet your expectations as a "perfect" recruit. He couldn't win by himself, he needs help just like every other QB. He failed to make a good throw and decision late in that game but if others would have stepped up and not made mistakes, dropped passes, missed kicks earlier in the game, he wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place.

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1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

he didn't meet expectations as a "perfect" recruit. He couldn't win by himself, he needs help just like every other QB. He failed to make a good throw and decision late in that game

So true......so true....

 

 

Colt would crush it with this amount of talent on the team. But then again when we didn't have a plus running game during games Colt would do it with his legs. We can't ask that of Quinn because he's a pussy statue. 

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x's/o's blah blah blah. The offense lacks tempo, Quinn's plays passively, and this genius offense has stopped scoring TDs. The trajectory of the program is phenomenal but the offense has been constipated for weeks now. Wake up Sark and get in Quinn's face.

 

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1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

Nah, you have made your position clear, you come in here and dog on a kid because he didn't meet your expectations as a "perfect" recruit. He couldn't win by himself, he needs help just like every other QB. He failed to make a good throw and decision late in that game but if others would have stepped up and not made mistakes, dropped passes, missed kicks earlier in the game, he wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place.

I don't expect Quinn to be "perfect" at all. You just make stuff up. Your arguments on here have been more disingenuous than the people that go overboard with criticism. 

This is Surly. You want rah-rah bullshit all the time, maybe a 9.95 site is more your speed. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I don't expect Quinn to be "perfect" at all. You just make stuff up. Your arguments on here have been more disingenuous than the people that go overboard with criticism. 

This is Surly. You want rah-rah bullshit all the time, maybe a 9.95 site is more your speed. 

 

 

I'm disingenuous? You say that only because I disagree with you. I'll take the high road and support our HC and QB. Feel free to be a douche, nothing stopping you.

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10 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Nah, you have made your position clear, you come in here and dog on a kid because he didn't meet your expectations as a "perfect" recruit. He couldn't win by himself, he needs help just like every other QB. He failed to make a good throw and decision late in that game but if others would have stepped up and not made mistakes, dropped passes, missed kicks earlier in the game, he wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place.

I can't speak for everyone, but I find myself very frustrated that we would be the prohibitive favorites to win a national championship with say Dillon Gabriel or Jaxson Dart level QB play. We're having to scheme around what we have at QB and the result is scoring in the teens. And not in that fun Matt Gaetz way either. 

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11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

 

Look at these screenshots I took....Wingo is open for a pass that is on a rope. 

 

 

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If this is put on Wingo it's a catch and he we likely looking at 3rd and about 4-6. Instead he lofts to the endzone for no god damn reason.

I get that. That is not an easy throw with the Safety coming over the top, especially with an inside release from Wingo. If Wingo cooked him on an outside release I get it. I am pretty sure you would agree that the throw to Golden is much lower degree of difficulty. I am just wondering the progressions here or more to the point is there a progression on this play. I will say I did not expect @Longhornlove to say this was a bad read and you argue that Quinn made the right read. Its like bizarro world

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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I can't speak for everyone, but I find myself very frustrated that we would be the prohibitive favorites to win a national championship with say Dillon Gabriel or Jaxson Dart level QB play. We're having to scheme around what we have at QB and the result is scoring in the teens. And not in that fun Matt Gaetz way either. 

We played two very good defenses back to back. I don't foresee any immediate competition that should result in complete ineptitude on offense. We should have blown A&M out barring a continued 3rd quarter calamity of errors.

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50 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Beck threw 3 picks against us in the first game. 

I should’ve said 5 pick sixes or throw those 5 deep in their  territory like we did against Georgia. I find it hard to believe Oregon has the same defensive players that Georgia have also 

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3 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Committed by….Quinn

Excuse me, did Quinn fumble all those balls? No, of course he didn't, please don't join the rest of the village idiots. Is he responsible for the blocked punt too?

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Just now, SubliminalHorn said:

lol well yes he did have a fumble and a pick 6. But other than that

I said calamity of errors, it wasn't just him. He played a part but help stop the madness instead of contributing to it.

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1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

I said calamity of errors, it wasn't just him. He played a part but help stop the madness instead of contributing to it.

Well his part was the only reason aggy scored. God stop sucking his dick already

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35 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I get that. That is not an easy throw with the Safety coming over the top, especially with an inside release from Wingo. If Wingo cooked him on an outside release I get it. I am pretty sure you would agree that the throw to Golden is much lower degree of difficulty. I am just wondering the progressions here or more to the point is there a progression on this play. I will say I did not expect @Longhornlove to say this was a bad read and you argue that Quinn made the right read. Its like bizarro world

You’re confusing @Longhornlove with @Thatguywho would never admit Quinn messed up or made a bad play. Quinn is perfect 😇 

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21 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I get that. That is not an easy throw with the Safety coming over the top, especially with an inside release from Wingo. If Wingo cooked him on an outside release I get it. I am pretty sure you would agree that the throw to Golden is much lower degree of difficulty. I am just wondering the progressions here or more to the point is there a progression on this play. I will say I did not expect @Longhornlove to say this was a bad read and you argue that Quinn made the right read. Its like bizarro world

I think Quinn pre-snap decides to go to Wingo because of how the corners are playing, off Bond or Golden up top and up tight against Wingo.  If you don't have off coverage up top and the safety has to assist , I think the play is Helm in the seam (but he falls over anyways). 

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1 minute ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Well his part was the only reason aggy scored. God stop sucking his dick already

JFC you fucking retard, I just fucking stated he had errors. I have pointed out multiple occasions or agreed that he made mistakes. Stop sucking everyone else's dick and admit he isn't the only one causing issues on offense. Peer offensive line play against, Georgia, running backs with fumble issues. Horrid special teams play and receivers dropping passes, and not running routes as designed. This isn't the QE offense, this is the Texas offense.

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Quinn is a mind fuck. Thats why this thread is so active.

We have a world beater defense, so we automatically say everyone is screwed because we have offensive wizard and QB guru Sark. And to go with his credentials, our donors money whipped a 1.000 rated homegrown #1 overall QB who is in his third season as a starter, has all the pieces around him he needs, and is a heisman contending dr pepper commercial media darling. 

Season plays out and half the time all that hype makes sense with his wizard throws and pure arm talent, and half the time he looks like hot hammered shit. Not game to game, not half to half, not quarter to quarter. Play to play. Statistically hes nothing more than solidly above average. Trying hard not to be a spoiled fan because the only reason we have these expectations is because so many have ponied up $$$ and brought us back, but its kind of a bitter pill to swallow that we are falling short of a dominant season due to the offense and the QB. 

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1 hour ago, Longhornlove said:

You want to see loaded boxes, put Arch in. If they use him more, he is going to have to throw the ball some to lighten that box. I also wouldn't mind a 5 wide empty set draw from Arch. Exactly what Georgia did to us with their backup of course Makuba almost decapitated him. 

You think teams will stack the box against a guy that’s shown he can beat coverage downfield?

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10 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

JFC you fucking retard, I just fucking stated he had errors. I have pointed out multiple occasions or agreed that he made mistakes. Stop sucking everyone else's dick and admit he isn't the only one causing issues on offense. Peer offensive line play against, Georgia, running backs with fumble issues. Horrid special teams play and receivers dropping passes, and not running routes as designed. This isn't the QE offense, this is the Texas offense.

Honest question, how are you affiliated with Quinn? I wish the posters who go overboard with their defense of mediocre players would just put out disclaimer so people are not wasting their time arguing with them. 

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6 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

You think teams will stack the box against a guy that’s shown he can beat coverage downfield?

Yes. 100% they (they being a team in the playoff) would do this until he shows he can beat it with any consistency against a real team.

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3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

You think teams will stack the box against a guy that’s shown he can beat coverage downfield?

Yes. Are ULM and Mississippi State your "proof" that he can beat coverage downfield? Who didn't beat those teams downfield would be a better question? You actually thing teams would play soft coverage against Arch when all he has done recently is run the ball? Quinn has thrown the ball pretty well deep the last couple of games. The theory that he can't complete a deep pass has been proven a myth. Doesn't mean he is great at it but odd no one has mentioned that lately huh?

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18 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I think Quinn pre-snap decides to go to Wingo because of how the corners are playing, off Bond or Golden up top and up tight against Wingo.  If you don't have off coverage up top and the safety has to assist , I think the play is Helm in the seam (but he falls over anyways). 

 

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Helm is done. He is going straight up the hash. I assume with the intent is to occupy his man and the safety. He isnt looking to split the safeties. That allows Golden to the crosser in man underneath.

 

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

 

Look at these screenshots I took....Wingo is open for a pass that is on a rope. 

 

 

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If this is put on Wingo it's a catch and he we likely looking at 3rd and about 4-6. Instead he lofts to the endzone for no god damn reason.

The other one was open too but under thrown.  So no that’s not on play calling like some want to say, It is what it is as this point.  Need some defensive scores in the playoffs especially vs teams that can stop the dink and dunk and screens.

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3 minutes ago, Yev Kassem said:

I think @Longhornlove would enjoy watching Quinn fuck his significant other and then make excuses why he came too quickly and disappointed her. 

No I just don't belong to the echo chamber narrative support group. I am the anti-narrative guy. Yin vs Yang. I won't sit here a read how everything is on Quinn. It's people like you that have caused Chris Simms to never return to campus. I'm hoping that shit behavior doesn't happen again but I'm probably too late. Sad thing is Quinn was always a Texas fan and he came home to help us rebuild and what has he got from so many in return? Grief, why because you thought he would be better. I thought he would to but I'm not gonna shit on the kid, I will defend him. I will take the high ground, you do whatever the fuck you want I guess.

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4 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

The other one was open too but under thrown.  So no that’s not on play calling like some want to say, It is what it is as this point.  Need some defensive scores in the playoffs especially vs teams that can stop the dink and dunk and screens especially.  

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Again, Moore is in the wrong spot here. He runs that route correctly and he is much closer to where Quinn threw the ball. The ball is under thrown, but it is also a route running error. 

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12 minutes ago, Fico said:

Yes. 100% they (they being a team in the playoff) would do this until he shows he can beat it with any consistency against a real team.

Bold choice for sure. Acting like Arch is Tebow is certainly a choice

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3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Again, Moore is in the wrong spot here. He runs that route correctly and he is much closer to where Quinn threw the ball. The ball is under thrown, but it is also a route running error. 

So QB can't adjust his throw to the route? I see QBs do it all the time. Quinn just is dog shit at it

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3 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

No I just don't belong to the echo chamber narrative support group. I am the anti-narrative guy. Yin vs Yang. I won't sit here a read how everything is on Quinn. It's people like you that have caused Chris Simms to never return to campus. I'm hoping that shit behavior doesn't happen again but I'm probably too late. Sad thing is Quinn was always a Texas fan and he came home to help us rebuild and what has he got from so many in return? Grief, why because you thought he would be better. I thought he would to but I'm not gonna shit on the kid, I will defend him. I will take the high ground, you do whatever the fuck you want I guess.

You’re so fucking weird.

Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Again, Moore is in the wrong spot here. He runs that route correctly and he is much closer to where Quinn threw the ball. The ball is under thrown, but it is also a route running error. 

So it was a post to pylon or a curl to the pylon?  Sure, Ok….  Looks much more like adjusting to a bad pass than a planned deep pass to the front corner of the end zone.  If I’m throwing a post I wouldn’t throw it to the front corner of the end zone.

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1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

He threw it on the break, it was in the air, how exactly would he adjust it?

Interesting....If it was me I'm throwing it out in front of where my receiver is toward the back of the endzone even out of the break. Ya know, to at least give my guy a chance to make a play....not throw it to a spot where you'd have to be the elastic man to make a play. Not toward the front of the end zone 4 yards from the sideline.

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