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Play suspended due to lightening...  Round 2 will resume in place Saturday at 7:30 a.m. ET.

Spiethcoaster better get it together Saturday morning on his final 4 holes... currently T41, 10 shots back and in danger of missing the cut...

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Spiethcoaster too damn inconsistent...

Made cut, but back 9 of Round 3 killing him again.   Struggling to maybe get par on #15 (par5)

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24 minutes ago, MrX said:

Spieth hasn’t been able to put four rounds together for four years. 

Yeah it sucks Spieth can't seem to get his game back to a high enough level to win again...  But he is always convinced he's about to turn the corner and be "back again"

Recent article:  

Jordan Spieth is virtually locked into the field for the first FedEx Cup playoff tournament (FedEx St. Jude Championship), and with a very good chance of advancing to the second. The three-time major winner still has high hopes for this season, but he also thinks he'll be all the way back by this time next year. 

Spieth is viewing this end of the season as a stepping stone to reach the top of his game.  "Next year's going to be a really good year for me, I can feel it. It's all coming along. I'll be healthy, and just structurally putting, the mechanics are all getting really, really close. One good offseason should get me nailed down to where I could be as good as I've been. That's my goal."

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Just so I'm clear, the top 70 based on cumulative points get in "playoff"

Then, top 50 finishers in 1st event (cumulative points NO LONGER MATTER) move to BMW

then, top 30 finishers at BMW (cumulative points NO LONGER MATTER) move to Tour Championship

then, low gross score (no starting strokes "headstart") at Tour Championship wins it along with the big pile of money for being the "FedEx Cup champion".

Is that correct?

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On 8/2/2025 at 10:09 PM, LTtxfan said:

Yeah it sucks Spieth can't seem to get his game back to a high enough level to win again...  But he is always convinced he's about to turn the corner and be "back again"

Recent article:  

Jordan Spieth is virtually locked into the field for the first FedEx Cup playoff tournament (FedEx St. Jude Championship), and with a very good chance of advancing to the second. The three-time major winner still has high hopes for this season, but he also thinks he'll be all the way back by this time next year. 

Spieth is viewing this end of the season as a stepping stone to reach the top of his game.  "Next year's going to be a really good year for me, I can feel it. It's all coming along. I'll be healthy, and just structurally putting, the mechanics are all getting really, really close. One good offseason should get me nailed down to where I could be as good as I've been. That's my goal."

Spieth could climb back to being a top 20 type guy but his days of being a top 5 player in the world are over...could he win another major, sure, but his consistency of iron play is gone, and when you lose that well...

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Spieth still has talent but his mental game is gone. He is a guy who gets a bad break and does the "woe is me" act instead of shaking it off and continuing to press on. You can tell he just always thinks bad luck is looming and it's hard to play golf that way when you just expect bad things.

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2 hours ago, orange dream said:

Just so I'm clear, the top 70 based on cumulative points get in "playoff"

Then, top 50 finishers in 1st event (cumulative points NO LONGER MATTER) move to BMW

then, top 30 finishers at BMW (cumulative points NO LONGER MATTER) move to Tour Championship

then, low gross score (no starting strokes "headstart") at Tour Championship wins it along with the big pile of money for being the "FedEx Cup champion".

Is that correct?

First two events are still awarding points (quadrupled I believe). Then the Tour Championship is a regular 72 hole event for the top 30. 

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2 hours ago, MrX said:

First two events are still awarding points (quadrupled I believe). Then the Tour Championship is a regular 72 hole event for the top 30. 

Ok thanks.  I wish they would do away with the points once the playoff begins.  Just let the top 50 and 30 advance from week to week.  It's a little like saying that the lower seed in the NFL playoffs has to cover the spread to advance, or the lower seed in the baseball playoffs has to can't lose more than one game in a series to advance.  At some points you let the teams / players who advance to the playoffs play the game / tournament and then let the results of that competition decide who wins the trophy / pile of money.

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35 minutes ago, orange dream said:

Ok thanks.  I wish they would do away with the points once the playoff begins.  Just let the top 50 and 30 advance from week to week.  It's a little like saying that the lower seed in the NFL playoffs has to cover the spread to advance, or the lower seed in the baseball playoffs has to can't lose more than one game in a series to advance.  At some points you let the teams / players who advance to the playoffs play the game / tournament and then let the results of that competition decide who wins the trophy / pile of money.

I agree with you, but they’ve tied status to the FedEx standings (such as the Top 50 being exempt for all signature events next year) so they can’t just straight cut as you propose. That’s why calling it the “playoffs” is stupid as hell.  But the PGA leadership is generally stupid as hell with just about everything. 

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Not a great 1st Rd by Spiethcoaster... wonder if he even qualifies for Top50 and tournament next week.

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Scottie just getting started...

PGA Tour tee times, schedule for FedEx St. Jude Championship: Round 1 groupings

All times Central

First tee

  • 7:20 a.m. — Matti Schmid
  • 7:30 a.m. — Min Woo Lee, J.T. Poston
  • 7:40 a.m. — Jordan Spieth, Wyndham Clark
  • 7:50 a.m. — Harry Hall, Akshay Bhatia
  • 8:00 a.m. — Tom Hoge, Matt Fitzpatrick
  • 8:10 a.m. — Taylor Pendrith, Denny McCarthy
  • 8:20 a.m. — Brian Campbell, Thomas Detry
  • 8:30 a.m. — Ryan Fox, Jacob Bridgeman
  • 8:40 a.m. — Sam Stevens, Sungjae Im
  • 8:55 a.m. — Sam Burns, Justin Rose
  • 9:05 a.m. — Brian Harman, Hideki Matsuyama
  • 9:15 a.m. — Cameron Young, Shane Lowry
  • 9:25 a.m. — Keegan Bradley, Maverick McNealy
  • 9:35 a.m. — Ben Griffin, Harris English
  • 9:45 a.m. — Russell Henley, Justin Thomas
  • 9:55 a.m. — Nico Echavarria, Patrick Rodgers
  • 10:05 a.m. — Rickie Fowler, Davis Riley
  • 10:15 a.m. — Erik van Rooyen, Cam Davis
  • 10:30 a.m. — Jhonattan Vegas, Max Greyserman
  • 10:40 a.m. — Joe Highsmith, Aaron Rai
  • 10:50 a.m. — Kurt Kitayama, Bud Cauley
  • 11 a.m. — Si Woo Kim, Jake Knapp
  • 11:10 a.m. — Xander Schauffele, Aldrich Potgieter
  • 11:20 a.m. — Michael Kim, Jason Day
  • 11:30 a.m. — Daniel Berger, Ryan Gerard
  • 11:40 a.m. — Viktor Hovland, Lucas Glover
  • 11:50 a.m. — Chris Gotterup, Patrick Cantlay
  • 12:05 p.m. — Nick Taylor, Collin Morikawa
  • 12:15 p.m. — Ludvig Aberg, Robert MacIntyre
  • 12:25 p.m. — Andrew Novak, Corey Conners
  • 12:35 p.m. — J.J. Spaun, Tommy Fleetwood
  • 12:45 p.m. — Scottie Scheffler, Sepp Straka
  • 12:55 p.m. — Stephan Jaeger, Mackenzie Hughes
  • 1:05 p.m. — Tony Finau, Chris Kirk
  • 1:15 p.m. — Kevin Yu, Emiliano Grillo
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Bhatia finishes in a flurry

What a round from the lengthy left hander! Akshay Bhatia connects on 10 fairways and 15 greens in regulation and finishes his first round in a flurry to take a possible two-stroke lead into the second round. Bhatia finished 3-3-3 playing his final three holes in a 4-under fashion to surge past the rest of the leading pack with his 8-under 62.

Patrick McDonald

 

Different opinion on Spiethcoaster from mine:

Spieth, Clark make move to solidify spots inside top 50

Both Jordan Spieth and Wyndham Clark found red figures early Thursday morning and have done some work to make sure their names are in the field for next week's BMW Championship. Clark carded just one bogey — on the par-5 16th — and continued to strike the ball well en route to a 3-under 67. Meanwhile, Spieth drove it great and was solid on the greens. His iron play may need to improve if he is to improve on his 69.

Patrick McDonald

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2 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

 

Different opinion on Spiethcoaster from mine:

Meanwhile, Spieth drove it great and was solid on the greens. His iron play may need to improve if he is to improve on his 69.

Patrick McDonald

same as it ever was...but at least he's under par.

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Millions in bank, 2 kids and a 3rd just born.  Might be just chillin’ for a while with no cares in the world except his kids.  

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I’ve read the revised rules several times, and this thread, and I’m still confused. So the top 70 in points standings qualified for today. Next week the top 50 IN POINTS STANDINGS advance, right?

Then for the last event, it’s just a straight up tournament, low score wins, right? If so, doesn’t that make Scottie’s points leader title worthless, and makes points only important for the guys between ~25-85? 

So now the FedEx champion is just mostly whoever wins one tournament. Seems strange to me. 

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6 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I’ve read the revised rules several times, and this thread, and I’m still confused. So the top 70 in points standings qualified for today. Next week the top 50 IN POINTS STANDINGS advance, right?

Then for the last event, it’s just a straight up tournament, low score wins, right? If so, doesn’t that make Scottie’s points leader title worthless, and makes points only important for the guys between ~25-85? 

So now the FedEx champion is just mostly whoever wins one tournament. Seems strange to me. 

yes, the top 30 make the championship tournament after the first 2 events.  Scottie's points lead just means he almost automatically makes the champ tourney. the benefit is the higher you rank the more buffer you have for teh first 2 events.

As long as you remain in the top 30 there is no rules benefit 1 v 30.  they had to make the last tournament competitive with some drama for full field and this was the way to do it.

They could have done some type of "banding" say 1-5 start at -3, 6-15, start at -1, 16-30 start at even or something like that maybe...

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10 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

yes, the top 30 make the championship tournament after the first 2 events.  Scottie's points lead just means he almost automatically makes the champ tourney. the benefit is the higher you rank the more buffer you have for teh first 2 events.

As long as you remain in the top 30 there is no rules benefit 1 v 30.  they had to make the last tournament competitive with some drama for full field and this was the way to do it.

They could have done some type of "banding" say 1-5 start at -3, 6-15, start at -1, 16-30 start at even or something like that maybe...

That’s what I was thinking. Do some banding. I like your idea. That way everyone is scrambling for position, AND the guys that performed all year end up with a slight advantage. 

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Scottie and Rory (and probably a few others) could skip the first 2 and still make it to Atlanta. They keep changing this thing and somehow making it dumber. 

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They’d never do it, but Tour Champ should be something like top 30 make it, with top 8 getting byes. Remaining 22 play two rounds, top 8 advance. Then the final 16 play two rounds from scratch, winner takes all. 
 

That way someone like Scottie, with the season he’s had, will always be in the top 8 and get a bye, and you’d have guys trying to get into top 8 or top 30 too. Plus it would end with a true “playoff” type feel. 
 

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1 hour ago, MrX said:

They’d never do it, but Tour Champ should be something like top 30 make it, with top 8 getting byes. Remaining 22 play two rounds, top 8 advance. Then the final 16 play two rounds from scratch, winner takes all. 
 

That way someone like Scottie, with the season he’s had, will always be in the top 8 and get a bye, and you’d have guys trying to get into top 8 or top 30 too. Plus it would end with a true “playoff” type feel. 
 

Love this too. You guys should be the commissioner. 

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1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

Scottie and Rory (and probably a few others) could skip the first 2 and still make it to Atlanta. They keep changing this thing and somehow making it dumber. 

Hell would freeze over before Rory wouldn't play a $20M tourney.

Oh holy shit he actually IS skipping it. 

Maybe that Masters win changed him. 

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9 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Oh good it's the yearly bitching about the Tour Championship format. 

Well there’s a pretty good reason for the bitching. They selected a stupid format that makes the whole points system irrelevant for critical top players. Stupid. 

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6 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Well there’s a pretty good reason for the bitching. They selected a stupid format that makes the whole points system irrelevant for critical top players. Stupid. 

Right but people complain regardless of the format. 

Although I can't remember if viewers actually didn't like the potential 2 winners format when they initially started messing with everything. 

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12 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Well there’s a pretty good reason for the bitching. They selected a stupid format that makes the whole points system irrelevant for critical top players. Stupid. 

I was gonna say "its the yearly ztejas bitchin about the yearly bitching about the tour championship format"

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26 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Love this too. You guys should be the commissioner. 

at the end of the day unless they did match play it is never going to be a "playoff" but I'm OK with top 30 have a shot.  there probably woudn't be enough action to televise if it weren't somewhere around 30 players

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8 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I was gonna say "its the yearly ztejas bitchin about the yearly bitching about the tour championship format"

I just wish they would quit fucking with it because no matter what they do people will complain about it. Although unlike something like the NBA all-star game it feels like they should be able to figure something out that works well enough most years. 

This does seem like one of the worse formats, however. The staggered start going into East Lake was probably the most "fair" way to tie in the season-long points and have just one winner at the end of the season. I guess people didn't like that players could just run away with the tournament or that the bottom 15 didn't have much of a chance. But iirc you had guys go low Thurs/Fri all the time and instantly put themselves in contention. Rory started 5 back in 2019 and 6 back in 2022 and won both years. 

Granted, I don't really give a shit about any of these guys bank statements or the season long points stuff so I guess it's cool to just have a straight-up 30 man tournament?

You also have to keep in mind that the Tour is doing everything they can to retain players and compete against LIV. "Just put yourself in the top 30 at the end of the season and you get a shot for $20M (or whatever the bonus is)" is a good selling point I suppose. 

But now you have their biggest or 2nd biggest star skipping the first tournament.

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