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In retrospect, I feel a little better about yesterday's performance than Game 2. We were barely competitive in that game. After a lackluster first 20 minutes and an 0-2 deficit courtesy of the Oilers scoring two goals during a period of time when the Stars should've been playing a man up, the Stars brought it most of the rest of the game and dominated. We gave up the killer McDavid goal to end the second period (thanks Rantanen) and then Hyman picked off a ridiculous snow-bird goal to make it 4-1. It was basically over then. A soft-as-baby-shit penalty on Harley led to another Edmonton goal. (Refs only made the call as a half-assed attempt to ward off the Stars looking for frontier justice as retaliation fro Nurse's bullshit in G2. Shame on the refs for not seeing that the Stars didn't do any of that shit yesterday.)

Otter was not great and I feel his concentration probably waned as the third period drug on. I still think Edmonton is better, especially if that's the Skinner they're going to get. He's liable to lose it at any moment though. Bring maximum effort tomorrow and try to steal one there. Turn it into a best-of-3. I'm prepared for this to all be over Thursday in Dallas. As I've said multiple times, there's zero chance McDavid doesn't hoist the Cup during his career. This might be the year. But Florida ain't gonna sit idly by and let him take it from them. I hope we can delay the party a bit -- if not completely spoil it.

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The ever rare 6-1 defeat where we outplayed them (60.5% win percentage in the "deserve to win o'meter").    2-1 after 3 is probably the right result as Edmonton probably deserved game 1.  I haven't read the rest of this thread since logging off pregame Friday, but the right time for retaliation was the last 5 minutes of game 2 and I'm still pissed we didn't do it.  It would have been tough for the league to suspend one of our players and not Nurse.   Now we are down 2-1 and don't have any margin for error or time for that bullshit.  

Pretty much have to win tomorrow night as I don't think we can pull off 3 straight.  If Skinner plays like that maybe not much we can do, but we are running into the exact same issue we had last year in the playoffs which is flat out inability to finish.  Rantanen/Duchene/Robo/Johnston flat out have to score goals.   It's pretty simple.   2 goals on 33 high danger chances this series isn't going to cut it.

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41 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

the canes have given life to oil with last night's result

very low expectations tonight :(

Connor Brown is out and Roope likely in. If we come out and play like we don't want to lose and stay disciplined, I like our chances to make this a 3-game series.

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2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Connor Brown is out and Roope likely in. If we come out and play like we don't want to lose and stay disciplined, I like our chances to make this a 3-game series.

We need bad Skinner tonight. And it would be really fucking nice is Jason Robertson would fucking do something.

Interesting Robo factoid -- of the 15 career playoff goals he has scored, 11 have come on the power play.

EDIT: bolded, italicized

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22 minutes ago, C-Man said:

We need bad Skinner tonight. And it would be really fucking nice is Jason Robertson would fucking do something.

Interesting Robo factoid -- of the 15 career playoff games, he has scored, 11 have come on the power play.

even mediocre Skinner and some puck luck would do. the first goal feels pretty big tonight, but as we've seen, it's not a complete determinant, but it has been the last couple of games.

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constant reminder: it's been 32 years since the habs and pat roy beat the gretzkyings

prior to 1993 us teams won 26 of the prior 65

prior to 1928 every winner was canadian

since 1993 every winner has been usian

41% of nhl players are canadian

the hockey hall of fame is in downtown toronto (it's extremely cool)

the league office is yyz

replays are yyz

today, king charles gave the throne speech to the canadian parliament, the first by the monarch in person in 50 years

the orange man has united an entire country, just not ours

winning this series is a sisyphean task

 

oh, one last stat, almost forgot

90% of nhl zebras are canadian

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23 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

constant reminder: it's been 32 years since the habs and pat roy beat the gretzkyings

prior to 1993 us teams won 26 of the prior 65

prior to 1928 every winner was canadian

since 1993 every winner has been usian

41% of nhl players are canadian

the hockey hall of fame is in downtown toronto (it's extremely cool)

the league office is yyz

replays are yyz

today, king charles gave the throne speech to the canadian parliament, the first by the monarch in person in 50 years

the orange man has united an entire country, just not ours

winning this series is a sisyphean task

 

oh, one last stat, almost forgot

90% of nhl zebras are canadian

Jim Carrey Chance GIF

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At this level, precision has to be taken for granted. The Oilers have it, the Stars don't.

I mean that Oiler passes are going rink-wide, across zones, and landing in stride on tape. Dallas finds their target, sends it off a step slow, and then it lands on a heel or just between the feet. The receiver has to stop, dig the puck out, and lose sight of the play. Simply, we're taking too long to execute. Even with their lethal speed, the Oilers are going just a bit faster.

A couple of times, we've gotten them chasing. They can be had, but we've got to stop thinking and play instinctually as fast as possible. If the turnovers are going to happen anyway, let them happen at full bore - preventing the Oilers from cleanly attacking.

The assignment was always to win at least one of this pair. Get home ice back and see what happens. That's still there (remember, we got destroyed by the Avs in the games they won. We won 4 games by barely being ahead), but we can't play timid. If we're not going to clamp down defensively on their talent (almost impossible), then send the puck into our offensive zone. Right now, we're doing not enough of either.

Never give up until the handshake line, but tonight determines if we've got a series or just a nice season.

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2 hours ago, C-Man said:

We need bad Skinner tonight. And it would be really fucking nice is Jason Robertson would fucking do something.

Interesting Robo factoid -- of the 15 career playoff goals he has scored, 11 have come on the power play.

EDIT: bolded, italicized

we need the aggy QB hypnotist to tell Robertson it is a mid Jan home game against San Jose.

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Posted (edited)
39 minutes ago, GoldAppleCorps said:

At this level, precision has to be taken for granted. The Oilers have it, the Stars don't.

I mean that Oiler passes are going rink-wide, across zones, and landing in stride on tape. Dallas finds their target, sends it off a step slow, and then it lands on a heel or just between the feet. The receiver has to stop, dig the puck out, and lose sight of the play. Simply, we're taking too long to execute. Even with their lethal speed, the Oilers are going just a bit faster.

A couple of times, we've gotten them chasing. They can be had, but we've got to stop thinking and play instinctually as fast as possible. If the turnovers are going to happen anyway, let them happen at full bore - preventing the Oilers from cleanly attacking.

The assignment was always to win at least one of this pair. Get home ice back and see what happens. That's still there (remember, we got destroyed by the Avs in the games they won. We won 4 games by barely being ahead), but we can't play timid. If we're not going to clamp down defensively on their talent (almost impossible), then send the puck into our offensive zone. Right now, we're doing not enough of either.

Never give up until the handshake line, but tonight determines if we've got a series or just a nice season.

we almost always look less talented in puck possession against the Edm, Avs, Kings,probably FLA.  5v5, usually Jake has to stand on his head or we get a 1 period flurry of cycling.  This Ratanen was supposed to help us there and to be honest we wouldn't be here without his otherworldy play for 3 or 4 games.  IMO we are the least "talented" team of the 4 left.

This team generally gets there with Jake, straight guts/want to, and maybe some timely PP goals.  we just don't have the speed or that one guy that can morph the opposing D into a form they don't want play. 

I wish we had that guy but we don't so here's to some good D and puck luck and taking 3 of the next 4.

 

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35 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

we almost always look less talented in puck possession against the Edm, Avs, Kings,probably FLA.  5v5, usually Jake has to stand on his head or we get a 1 period flurry of cycling.  This Ratanen was supposed to help us there and to be honest we wouldn't be here without his otherworldy play for 3 or 4 games.  IMO we are the least "talented" team of the 4 left.

This team generally gets there with Jake, straight guts/want to, and maybe some timely PP goals.  we just don't have the speed or that one guy that can morph the opposing D into a form they don't want play. 

I wish we had that guy but we don't so here's to some good D and puck luck and taking 3 of the next 4.

 

I think that is severely shortchanging how this team was purposely built. If you look at the last half dozen or so champs, many of them were teams built like us (STL, VGK, FLA) where they had very even team depth and maybe a sprinkling of superstars. I almost included TBL, but really with Kucherov, Stamkos, and Vasi on those teams, it's hard to argue they weren't top heavy. but part of the reason teams like EDM and COL (and to an extent teams like TOR) find it hard to break through is they rely too much on their top talent. when those guys aren't going, neither is the team. we've been purposely built to not have a drop off in production with the loss of any one player. it's what made WPG so dangerous and why FLA will likely find themselves back in the finals. hopefully our glut of high-end, but not overly star-studded lineup can finally start producing like we know they can. I don't care if it's 5v5 or on the PP (and trust me, neither do the players), we need all of our lines chipping in or we're toast. My bet is if we get points from 3 or more lines tonight, we will win handily.

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Weak call.  But that's a more skilled shot than we've put up in 6+ periods.   Have had multiple great setup chances and we are just lost around the net man.  I don't get it.  How do every one of our goal scorers go ice fucking cold at the same time.  Someone has to break this open for us or it's church.

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2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Weak call.  But that's a more skilled shot than we've put up in 6+ periods.   Have had multiple great setup chances and we are just lost around the net man.  I don't get it.  How do every one of our goal scorers go ice fucking cold at the same time.  Someone has to break this open for us or it's church.

Yeah we look tight and indecisive. Need to see one to go in to maybe unfuck some of that. 

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Controlled play.  Tons of SOG although quite a few were weak and easy saves.    I would need to go back and watch replays but our best setups just didn't connect at all.  This is the exact same thing that happened to us the last 3 games of WCF's last year.  Fucking deja vu.  But still time to flip the switch this series.  Get a GD power play goal to start the 2nd and let's see if that can help open up the floodgates.

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2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Controlled play.  Tons of SOG although quite a few were weak and easy saves.    I would need to go back and watch replays but our best setups just didn't connect at all.  This is the exact same thing that happened to us the last 3 games of WCF's last year.  Fucking deja vu.  But still time to flip the switch this series.  Get a GD power play goal to start the 2nd and let's see if that can help open up the floodgates.

Este

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3 minutes ago, markstanco said:


After the replay late his stick was under the skate. By definition…..but yea. Call that shit in January.

 Agreed.  But they had a couple of close no calls before that their fans were bitching about so it was just a matter of time we got called for the next close one

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