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10 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Auburn kicked the fan out... RB at end of clip

 

OH MY GOD, THAT'S THE WORST CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY 

how much jail time will/should he get for telling someone to go back to the country he's from? I HOPE IT'S A LOT

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Man, a good, hard fought win today against Florida. Tennessee's PG is a freshman from Uruguay who joined the team after Christmas, they have no size, no shooters, and zero bench, but holy shit do they play some team D. Got up by as much as 19 today, but Florida got real hot for about the first 8 minutes of the 2H and made it close from there on out. Blackshear almost single handedly won the game for Florida, but a couple huge shots and let stops in the final minute sealed the W for the Vols. They're gonna have a pretty good team next year and going forward as well. 

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hard to see how Tennessee covers 8.5 tonight. they already lost by 13 in Knoxville.

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GREAT WIN FOR FOLKS HURTING IN TENNESSEE!!!

 

 

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gonna catch this one on my DVR tomorrow. the couple times i clicked over during the ou game commercials all i saw was kentucky whooping them, and then check by check the score kept getting closer. i caught a couple of Fulkerson's late game plays. watching him, Brock, and Hamm tonight was great. 

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Impressive win by the Vols, turned it off at halftime thinking it looked good for UK but should’ve realized Cal is the coach so anything is possible.  The Fulkerson kid looks unorthodox as hell but plays pretty damn good, tough also, took a nasty elbow to nose but hung in there. 

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17 hours ago, Underdog said:

Impressive win by the Vols, turned it off at halftime thinking it looked good for UK but should’ve realized Cal is the coach so anything is possible.  The Fulkerson kid looks unorthodox as hell but plays pretty damn good, tough also, took a nasty elbow to nose but hung in there. 

I will give you a lot of credit. You are humble in victory and defeat. I cannot believe we pulled it off. 

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LOL.  I appreciate it but trust me, I've been on both ends of the spectrum.  But as I've gotten older I realize it's just sports and sometimes you just tip your cap to the other team.  Have always liked Barnes and glad to see him bring UT back to prominence and hopefully restore a once great Rivalry that I grew up with. 

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super long post incoming, and i'm putting a **SERIOUS** tag on it, because i'm not going to put this much time, thought, and effort into a post just so that herpa, immortal, deej, and the rest of children can scare off any adults who may actually be interested in discussing the thread/post topic by shitting all over everything before anyone else can even reply. 

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Over in the "Greatest White Players" thread I ended up talking about AJ Abrams, and wondering aloud why he isn't a bigger star/spoken about more often. Here's my post for full context, with the Rick Barnes related portion in bold:

He is the greatest shooter in Big XII history, and one of the greatest three point shooters in modern college basketball. And his work rate off the ball is the best I have ever seen. He was a truly special player who for some reason does not get the love that he deserves. I suppose playing with the likes of PJ Tucker, LaMarcus Aldridge, Boobie Gibson, Kevin Durant, and DJ Augustin can have that affect. FUCK i miss when we were THAT fucking good with stacked rosters full of well coached players.

Every player I just named played basketball for Texas in the same calendar year of 2006. In one year we had that much talent (plus AJ Abrams and Damion James) on campus and playing at the FEC. Between the 05/06 and 07/08 seasons Texas went 86-24 (average season 29-8), finished 1st, 3rd, and 1st in the Big XII, and went to the Elite 8 twice. 

Here's the numbers from 2006:

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I've posted the same stats from basketball-reference many times during the Shaka era, and we rank in the low 200's and even the low 300's in literally 3x as many categories as we do ranking in even the top 100 of anything, which itself is no high benchmark. Ranking this highly at this many things, as we did so often under Barnes, should be remembered more. But it's not. Why? Well...

Ahh, the 2007 season, a season about which I've probably already typed 100,000 words both here and at TOS. This is the one season from this time period that for some reason most UT fans choose to remember, and all of them remember it incorrectly. We finished 25th in KenPom; we had one single win over a team ranked in the top 50 (the 2OT win vs Acie Law at home). We lost at home to K State (way worse loss than USC). We were very exciting offensively, featuring DJ, AJ, and KD, but the truth is that we spent most of the year unranked, and in fact the 07 Horns were just never that great of a team to begin with. Maybe the 7th or 8th best team under Barnes, no higher. Still, what an amazingly enjoyable season to witness. Never seen anything like the show KD put on for us from November into March.

But then March did come, and we lost to USC, and Bill Simmons made a huge deal out of it, and all anyone remembers is that the 35-0 juggernaut Longhorns lost to some scrub team with a shitty coach and no NBA talent. What a shame that so many of our hoops fans have taken what was such an amazing and enjoyable season, and decided that the final game of that season (and the accompanying anger) is what will linger in their minds forever from this time period, not even realizing that this ridiculously enjoyable season was actually the low point of a pretty amazing three year stretch of Texas basketball. Now back to the pretty pictures and 30-win teams that play into the third weekend of the tourney with alarming frequency:

The numbers from 2008:

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So, the same team as the year before, only swap out KD for Gary Johnson, and the team wins 31 games, goes 13-3 in the league (tied for first with KU), destroys #13 (final KenPom ranking) Tennessee on a neutral floor, beats #4 UCLA (Russell Westbrook, Kevin Love, Darren Collison) at Pauley Pavilion, beats #1 KU at the FEC, finishes ranked 9th in KenPom, and plays into the third weekend of the tourney for the third time in six years. Yeah, Rick Barnes sucks.

What's crazy is that all of this stuff came right after the TJ Ford era, which itself came right after Barnes took the job and won the league in his first year. More than a decade of Texas hoops being exciting to watch, replete with All Americans, future pros, and national award winners, and yet that one loss to USC is all that 4/5 Texas hoops fans point to/think of when they talk about Rick Barnes. What a shame.

And now he's gone and immediately turned Tennessee from a basketball bottom dweller in a football conference, to a nationally relevant program in no time. 103, 57, 13, 10- those are Tennessee's final KenPom rankings in Barnes' first four years there. And after losing the entire roster from the fourth team and having a down year this year, the Vols have the no.5 recruiting class in America with two five stars and a high four star incoming. Yeah- Barnes sucks.

In reality, Rick Barnes is like the Andy Reid of college hoops- great regular season coach, great eye for talent and how to utilize it, always makes the postseason, but always comes up short. And just like Andy Reid (prior to this past SB) Barnes is one title away from being a *lock* for the Hall of Fame. He's been that good for that long, and he's done it everywhere he's been. Andy Reid got his title this year, and he's going to the HOF. So will Barnes if he wins one in Knoxville.

But even if he doesn't win that national title, he is right there on the outside looking in on the HOF, which squarely puts him in the upper echelon of college basketball coaches, even if he's not in the very top group. He's going to hit 800 wins in the next 3-4 years, and he even has an outside shot at 900, coaching exclusively at football schools since 1994. There's a whole lot of our fans who need to stop hating and put some respect on that man's name, and start appreciating everything he did here while they're at it. If Shaka hasn't shown you just how good we had it under Barnes then nothing will.


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good lord, triple post on THAT post of all posts. shouts out tapatalk. 

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4 hours ago, Goo Punch said:

super long post incoming, and i'm putting a **SERIOUS** tag on it, because i'm not going to put this much time, thought, and effort into a post just so that herpa, immortal, deej, and the rest of children can scare off any adults who may actually be interested in discussing the thread/post topic by shitting all over everything before anyone else can even reply. 

Fuck you, Derka. Your post is proof positive that you perpetuate all this shit. Just stop

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6 hours ago, Goo Punch said:

Over in the "Greatest White Players" thread I ended up talking about AJ Abrams, and wondering aloud why he isn't a bigger star/spoken about more often.

I can think of at least one reason he wouldn't be talked about in that context

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Vols sign transfer EJ Anosike from Sacred Heart. Big (6'6", 245 lb) and very athletic. Averaged 15.7 pts and 11.6 reb last year. Career 74% FT shooter. Looks like a good add to a team that needs some front court help. If the freshmen are ready to play the Vols could be pretty salty next year.

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2 hours ago, Goo Punch said:

Vols sign transfer EJ Anosike from Sacred Heart. Big (6'6", 245 lb) and very athletic. Averaged 15.7 pts and 11.6 reb last year. Career 74% FT shooter. Looks like a good add to a team that needs some front court help. If the freshmen are ready to play the Vols could be pretty salty next year.

 

Yay!!!

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I’m most excited about Texas recruiting class for next year. No players signed and Shaka coming back. Yeah baby!  

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https://247sports.com/college/tennessee/Article/Tennessee-Vols-Basketball-Recruiting-Paolo-Banchero-Top-Six-146629686/Amp/ 

 

Tennessee basketball is one of the final six programs for five-star power forward Paolo Banchero, the No. 4 overall player in the class of 2021.

The 6-foot-9, 235-pound big man from Seattle, Wash., announced his top six schools on Twitter Wednesday afternoon, with the Vols surrounded by Washington, Gonzaga, Kentucky, Duke and Arizona.

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