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26 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

Ah, OK. That's where my brain went after you post, but then I started to second guess myself. 

But yeah, it absolutely could be Ohio State/Indiana, which would be the weirdest fucking CCG I can remember. I think Cignetti is a fantastic coach, but, and again, jmo, Ohio State would beat them, too. The talent-gap is just too wide, unless Cignetti has just some unfathomable game plan with luck introduced. 

But remember, Oregon beat Ohio State last year, and we saw what happened when they met again. That was with Dillon Gabriel, 1.2k rusher Jordan James, Tez Johnson, a healthy Evan Stewart, Traeshon Holden, TE Terrance Ferguson, 1st rd OL Josh Conerly, Jr., 1st rd DT/DL Derrick Harmon, DL Jamaree Caldwell,  S Jeffrey Bassa, DE Jordan Burch, etc. That was an absolute 20 pt beating in Eugene again. 
 

Just looking at talent recruiting rankings disparity, fOSU has double the amount of 5* talent than the second leader, which is Oregon at #2 and Penn State at #3. 4* talent it's Penn State, fOSU, Oregon. My point being is that 5*/4* talent makes all the difference (unless your name happens to be James Franklin, which if that's the case, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW $50M LOTTERY WINNINGS), which is why even if the Buckeye play Indiana, I don't think it will be some blowout because of Cignetti, but fOSU will win by 2 TDs. 

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Texas, for whatever reason, is the only team to have held both Jeremiah Smith (6-43), and Carnell Tate (2-59) in check (aside from a blown assignment which gave Tate most of his 2 catches for 59 yards all game with his 40 yd TD. Credit is due where it's due). I don't know if it's just talent meets similar/comparable talent (which I believe Littleton is) regardless of recruiting rankings (we did have Thorpe winner Barron in 2024), but it was Muhammad/frosh Littleton (absolute stud) covering Smith this year, and Kobe Black/Taaffe tasked with covering Tate, scheme, whatever the case. 

If you haven't gotten to watch Longhorns football, tuck away the name Gaceon Littleton. He'll be our next Thorpe winner before he heads to the first rd. 

tOSU has hit that annoying Bama level of talent under Saban where their third string dudes look better than everyone's first string. They can be had obviously, but I am not sure Indiana has the horses to do it.  

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3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Yeah, I think their biggest advantage is that they can keep more of their freshman recruits for all 3-4 years. If they are starting, getting paid, and have a realistic shot at a championship, why transfer? Tech and SMU et al. are going to lose those players even if they can match or slightly exceed the blueblood money offer for the sole reason that the blueblood can also make a better pitch about a legit shot at a national title.

My first question would be: Why haven't we lost some of those types of guys already, then? We weren't really talent poor except for a couple positions on the OL, defensive line, and CB last season. We have a number of guys playing and thriving this year that weren't portal guys that easily could have transferred out and gotten paid by a blueblood. Jacob Rodriguez is the perfect example, he is arguably the best linebacker in college football, was a well known quantity before this season, and would easily have made a mint anywhere in the country.

I keep telling you guys, there's more to this conversation than money. There's a level of buy-in here that they actively seek when going after the guys they get. It's never going to be 100%, it's not for anybody, but fit, money, facilities, coaching, it all rolls into one for most players. We have the money, we have premium facilities, we have coaches that players really seem to like, and it seems to work for everybody so far. I guess we'll see.

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7 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

tOSU has hit that annoying Bama level of talent under Saban where their third string dudes look better than everyone's first string. They can be had obviously, but I am not sure Indiana has the horses to do it.  

I couldn't agree more. It's annoying af. But yeah, I just can't see Indiana pulling that big of an upset, especially twice in a season. One? Sure, OK. It happens. They're not FCS and they have a dude as a coach. Twice? Eh...not against those jort wearing douche tunnels. 

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You guys are way too obsessed with helmet stickers. Ohio State would be favored maybe 3 points over Indiana right now on a neutral field. I would say closer to 10 over Oregon. 

I'm still waiting on an answer on how exactly their running game is somehow far and away better than everyone else's. There is no data or set of results that backs that claim up even a little bit. The line about Texas being the only team to bottle up Smith and Tate is also not even true. What is going on here?

I'm not saying they shouldn't be the favorite to win it all again this year, until proven otherwise it's their crown to give up, but some of this is going a bit far. I'll take what their defense is selling any day of the week, though, that's for sure.

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4 minutes ago, Iceman said:

I don't hope at all that Tech plays aggy. 
 

I mean if it goes that way, kick their ass; but otherwise, fuck em. 

Are you kidding me? To drop a massive deuce in their punchbowl with a first round knockout of a B12 school would make their fans go apocalyptic. You could live on those tears for years. 

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1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

My first question would be: Why haven't we lost some of those types of guys already, then? We weren't really talent poor except for a couple positions on the OL, defensive line, and CB last season. We have a number of guys playing and thriving this year that weren't portal guys that easily could have transferred out and gotten paid by a blueblood. Jacob Rodriguez is the perfect example, he is arguably the best linebacker in college football, was a well known quantity before this season, and would easily have made a mint anywhere in the country.

I keep telling you guys, there's more to this conversation than money. There's a level of buy-in here that they actively seek when going after the guys they get. It's never going to be 100%, it's not for anybody, but fit, money, facilities, coaching, it all rolls into one for most players. We have the money, we have premium facilities, we have coaches that players really seem to like, and it seems to work for everybody so far. I guess we'll see.

I said I could be wrong, lets see how it plays out this offseason and next. And for the record, the conversation starts with the money and has to be at least 90% of the conversation. Tech isn't in the running for a lot of those guys without the money. Again, I feel I always have to be clear that it's not a criticism. It's okay to recognize that Tech and SMU are only succeeding at their current level because they have money to pay players really well in the new system.

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28 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Are you kidding me? To drop a massive deuce in their punchbowl with a first round knockout of a B12 school would make their fans go apocalyptic. You could live on those tears for years. 

Those same tears could fix the water in Flint, MI and make it drinkable again. 

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1 hour ago, Vertigo said:

Are you kidding me? To drop a massive deuce in their punchbowl with a first round knockout of a B12 school would make their fans go apocalyptic. You could live on those tears for years. 

I hate them.  I hate being by them.  i hate interacting with them.  Even when you beat them, they never shut the fuck up.

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3 hours ago, Iceman said:

I hate them.  I hate being by them.  i hate interacting with them.  Even when you beat them, they never shut the fuck up.

To summarize, fuck aggy. Anybody living in TX doesn't want aggy in the CFB Playoffs

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4 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

You guys are way too obsessed with helmet stickers. Ohio State would be favored maybe 3 points over Indiana right now on a neutral field. I would say closer to 10 over Oregon. 

I'm still waiting on an answer on how exactly their running game is somehow far and away better than everyone else's. There is no data or set of results that backs that claim up even a little bit. The line about Texas being the only team to bottle up Smith and Tate is also not even true. What is going on here?

I'm not saying they shouldn't be the favorite to win it all again this year, until proven otherwise it's their crown to give up, but some of this is going a bit far. I'll take what their defense is selling any day of the week, though, that's for sure.

God. Fucking. Christ. 

I made a long fucking list and I stepped away from my office and my phone refreshed and I lost all of my data. 

Here's a summary:

The top 3 RB rooms in the country in order (1 is objective, the other two subjective)

1. Tenn - overwhelming favorites. Balanced. 3 of their RBs share carries. Dylan Bishop 63/481/5 TD's ; Slar Thomas 62/328/4 TD's,and Peyton Lewis 40/200/5 TD's 4.7 ypc have the ball distributed almost evenly, and their yac is incredible. Sark/Scott should look into that. It looks like it might just work. - objective based on data 

2a. l put Ohio State here because they also share the ball between Bo Jackson 58/(407/2 TDs 7.0 ypc. DNP against UT), CJ Donaldson 58/237/6 TD's 4.1 ypc, and James People's. - 40/202/0 5.1 yac. Balanced. Subjective on position 

2b. Georgia - They're here due to how they use their backs. Chauncey Bowens 60/315/4 TD's 5.3 ypc; Nate Frazier 60/277/2 TDs 4.6 ypc.Josh McCray is used primarily to punish defensive fronts if they don't have depth. Balanced. Subjective on position 

TEX - We are the living embodiment of Shantytownies. Poverty. Destitute. Our leading rusher is Arch. Help me, I'm poor is our RB room motto now. Choice fucked us. Our "lead back" has 185 yards with 1 rushing TD and 1 receiving TD. 

OU. DOA. Cannot be resuscitated. But for comedy Tory Blaylock - 68/290/3 TD's. That's it. He did nothing against us other than go 11/33/0 at a Rueben Owens special of 3 ypc. 

UF - Baugh is literally all they have. He's all they used against us and we still lost. Pathetic.

Auburn - Cobb. Lol

Aggy - Moss. Absolute stud 70/389/6 TD's 5.6 ypc. Owens is absolute dog shit swarming in parvo. Take away his games against the poor Miss St and USU, and he averages between 1.7-3 ypc. I can't make myself look at them again. 

LSU - Caden Durham 67/283/2 TDs 4.2 ypc. He's all they have unless they continue to get Harlem Berry more involved 

Ole Miss - Kewan Lacy 126/587/8 TDs 4.7 ypc; Trinidad Chambliss (all-name team) 61/281/3 TD's 4.6 ypc

Bama - nothing even touching 200 yards 

Oregon - Jadarian Limar 42/249/3 TD's 5.9 ypc 

Now here are sone outliers:

Michigan - Justice Haynes 95/705/8 TDs 7.4 ypc (force of nature); Jordan Marshall 59/301/3 5.- ypc 

Mizzou - Ahmad Hardy 115/782/9 TD's 6.8 ypc (freak); Jamal Roberts 53/400/3 TD's 7.5 ypc 

You get the point. 

I'm not doing the math again regarding Smith/Tate, but I took the average of Smith's catches per game, added them up and they came to 40, so I divided by 6, and he gets 6 per game. 

They went against an elite defense (not my words, but I agree. It says we are elite at DL, LB, a balanced unit, positional versatility., elite pass rushers, veteran transfers, exceptional depth, talented corners, talented secondary, versatile safeties, diverse coverages, etc). We held him to his mean and Tate to below his average, but we did allow that one TD. Without it, he would have been 2/9, but he ended up with 2/49/1. What happened, happened. It is what it is. 

Smith got 6/43/0. He was covered by true freshman Graceon Littleton, who is already getting praised and named as a top 25 ESPN freshman, and is being considered for freshman All-American honors right now. Last year Smith had Barron on him, Thorpe winner, and he went 2/3/0, so that's what is expected. Maybe Smith just once again met his match with an equal on the opposite side of the ball in Littleton and got shut down. Game 1 or 15 it doesn't matter, just like a win is a win regardless if it's week 0 or week 10. 
 

Now recruiting (we'll just do 5* kids on rosters) currently on the rosters 
 

Texas - 10 (back to the norm or else we would be where aggy is)
Bama - 11 (the norm and still benefitting from Saban)
Georgia - 11 (the norm)
Oregon - 5 (Unsure, but I imagine it's a boost from Lanning. ungodly amount of 4* players)
Aggy - 5 (batting well above average since Elk last year. The Jimbos have all either transferred or drafted)

LSU- 4 (They are a shell of what they once were)

The point is, anyone who is butt hurt over tech buying players (I don't know if it's just Campbell shelling out the cash, or his former partner John Sellers also helping with football? We know he donates to softball) needs to get a grip. We both know tech's ceiling is the playoffs. You and I and everyone here knows you aren't winning a NC or even making it. It's just not going to happen. Take a look at the top 10 in recruiting and tell me Tech can match all of what those teams offer (prestige, money, NC's, NC appearances (aggy is the outlier, and they aren't winning shit, either), helmet schools, blue bloods, new blue bloods, etc will always take front and center no matter how much money whomever is shelling out). A blue blood/new blue blood will win it every year. People keep saying there's parity in football now. No there isn't. Recruiting shows that.

Just take a look at our class this year alone. You bought a project tackle for stupid money, but you did get a really good player in Guyton, but you better hope he works out better than your last 5*, Micah Hudson. You also have just four 4* recruits for this cycle. 2025 you have one 4* and all 3* with 18 commits. 2024 Micah Hudson (bust) and four 4* recruits with 22 commits. 2023 Five 4* and the rest 3*  with 28 commits. 2022 One low 4* and the rest 3*with 18 commits. 

That ain't going to work, son. When we have more 5* kids in 2025 class than you have 4* kids (One) there's a problem.

 

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Texas very seldom does NOT have the most talent on the field.  Same for A&M.  Y'all have the perfect coach and still never get it done, unless you have a generational QB, again, SURROUNDED by the most talented team.

Yet, other teams will still strap on the pads and lace up the cleats this week. It's fucking weird.

 The equation absolutely favors Texas.  Save for the miracle of Vincent Young overcoming Mack Brown, ya'll come up short.  Repeatedly, Yet you think other folks should stop in their tracks and take a knee. That's why other fanbases laugh at you.

The lion doesn't talk about being the apex predator.  It just is.

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4 hours ago, Iceman said:

Texas very seldom does NOT have the most talent on the field.  Same for A&M.  Y'all have the perfect coach and still never get it done, unless you have a generational QB, again, SURROUNDED by the most talented team.

Yet, other teams will still strap on the pads and lace up the cleats this week. It's fucking weird.

 The equation absolutely favors Texas.  Save for the miracle of Vincent Young overcoming Mack Brown, ya'll come up short.  Repeatedly, Yet you think other folks should stop in their tracks and take a knee. That's why other fanbases laugh at you.

The lion doesn't talk about being the apex predator.  It just is.

Is this you? Because this is how your posts sounds after what was posted. Stop being a bitch and just be happy you have someone who will pay for one or two 5* and five to six 4* in a class. 

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16 hours ago, Vertigo said:

Are you kidding me? To drop a massive deuce in their punchbowl with a first round knockout of a B12 school would make their fans go apocalyptic. You could live on those tears for years. 

That could be dangerous.  A guy like me could totally OD on that.  Fentanyl would be safer.

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Red Raider degenerates on Twitter are pissed they can't throw their tortillas anymore. Brett Yormark has become persona non grata in the hub city. 

 

This has lead to a plethora of tweets saying "fuck the Big 12, Campbell needs to get us into the SEC." Lol these goons think they can buy their invitation. I also don't think it's going to end well with this Cody Campbell character. The football team and fans seem to treat him as some unlimited piggy bank. I imagine he'll get sick of that shit after awhile. 

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Also, the tortilla toss thing was pretty mild and barely a blip until the Big 12 decided to make a big deal about it in the preseason and now every fan wants to throw tortillas to spite Yormark. Nice Streisanding, dumbshit.

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6 hours ago, Iceman said:

Texas very seldom does NOT have the most talent on the field.  Same for A&M.  Y'all have the perfect coach and still never get it done, unless you have a generational QB, again, SURROUNDED by the most talented team.

Yet, other teams will still strap on the pads and lace up the cleats this week. It's fucking weird.

 The equation absolutely favors Texas.  Save for the miracle of Vincent Young overcoming Mack Brown, ya'll come up short.  Repeatedly, Yet you think other folks should stop in their tracks and take a knee. That's why other fanbases laugh at you.

The lion doesn't talk about being the apex predator.  It just is.

Texas often has a talent advantage and often doesn't win. How many major-conference teams get excited about knocking off Houston or OSU week-to-week? It is a game of emotion in which better teams or those with bigger names often inspire greater emotion. Texas has still managed to eke out, I think, 14 outright conference championships over the last 60 years. And a few national championships. Remind me how many Tech has by comparison. My recollection is zero of both, but I could be counting wrong.

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16 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Also, the tortilla toss thing was pretty mild and barely a blip until the Big 12 decided to make a big deal about it in the preseason and now every fan wants to throw tortillas to spite Yormark. Nice Streisanding, dumbshit.

Well that, and that y'all love to play the part of the slighted "little engine that could" part. 🌵

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12 hours ago, William Bludworth said:

God. Fucking. Christ. 

I made a long fucking list and I stepped away from my office and my phone refreshed and I lost all of my data. 

Here's a summary:

The top 3 RB rooms in the country in order (1 is objective, the other two subjective)

1. Tenn - overwhelming favorites. Balanced. 3 of their RBs share carries. Dylan Bishop 63/481/5 TD's ; Slar Thomas 62/328/4 TD's,and Peyton Lewis 40/200/5 TD's 4.7 ypc have the ball distributed almost evenly, and their yac is incredible. Sark/Scott should look into that. It looks like it might just work. - objective based on data 

2a. l put Ohio State here because they also share the ball between Bo Jackson 58/(407/2 TDs 7.0 ypc. DNP against UT), CJ Donaldson 58/237/6 TD's 4.1 ypc, and James People's. - 40/202/0 5.1 yac. Balanced. Subjective on position 

2b. Georgia - They're here due to how they use their backs. Chauncey Bowens 60/315/4 TD's 5.3 ypc; Nate Frazier 60/277/2 TDs 4.6 ypc.Josh McCray is used primarily to punish defensive fronts if they don't have depth. Balanced. Subjective on position 

TEX - We are the living embodiment of Shantytownies. Poverty. Destitute. Our leading rusher is Arch. Help me, I'm poor is our RB room motto now. Choice fucked us. Our "lead back" has 185 yards with 1 rushing TD and 1 receiving TD. 

OU. DOA. Cannot be resuscitated. But for comedy Tory Blaylock - 68/290/3 TD's. That's it. He did nothing against us other than go 11/33/0 at a Rueben Owens special of 3 ypc. 

UF - Baugh is literally all they have. He's all they used against us and we still lost. Pathetic.

Auburn - Cobb. Lol

Aggy - Moss. Absolute stud 70/389/6 TD's 5.6 ypc. Owens is absolute dog shit swarming in parvo. Take away his games against the poor Miss St and USU, and he averages between 1.7-3 ypc. I can't make myself look at them again. 

LSU - Caden Durham 67/283/2 TDs 4.2 ypc. He's all they have unless they continue to get Harlem Berry more involved 

Ole Miss - Kewan Lacy 126/587/8 TDs 4.7 ypc; Trinidad Chambliss (all-name team) 61/281/3 TD's 4.6 ypc

Bama - nothing even touching 200 yards 

Oregon - Jadarian Limar 42/249/3 TD's 5.9 ypc 

Now here are sone outliers:

Michigan - Justice Haynes 95/705/8 TDs 7.4 ypc (force of nature); Jordan Marshall 59/301/3 5.- ypc 

Mizzou - Ahmad Hardy 115/782/9 TD's 6.8 ypc (freak); Jamal Roberts 53/400/3 TD's 7.5 ypc 

You get the point. 

I'm not doing the math again regarding Smith/Tate, but I took the average of Smith's catches per game, added them up and they came to 40, so I divided by 6, and he gets 6 per game. 

They went against an elite defense (not my words, but I agree. It says we are elite at DL, LB, a balanced unit, positional versatility., elite pass rushers, veteran transfers, exceptional depth, talented corners, talented secondary, versatile safeties, diverse coverages, etc). We held him to his mean and Tate to below his average, but we did allow that one TD. Without it, he would have been 2/9, but he ended up with 2/49/1. What happened, happened. It is what it is. 

Smith got 6/43/0. He was covered by true freshman Graceon Littleton, who is already getting praised and named as a top 25 ESPN freshman, and is being considered for freshman All-American honors right now. Last year Smith had Barron on him, Thorpe winner, and he went 2/3/0, so that's what is expected. Maybe Smith just once again met his match with an equal on the opposite side of the ball in Littleton and got shut down. Game 1 or 15 it doesn't matter, just like a win is a win regardless if it's week 0 or week 10. 
 

Now recruiting (we'll just do 5* kids on rosters) currently on the rosters 
 

Texas - 10 (back to the norm or else we would be where aggy is)
Bama - 11 (the norm and still benefitting from Saban)
Georgia - 11 (the norm)
Oregon - 5 (Unsure, but I imagine it's a boost from Lanning. ungodly amount of 4* players)
Aggy - 5 (batting well above average since Elk last year. The Jimbos have all either transferred or drafted)

LSU- 4 (They are a shell of what they once were)

The point is, anyone who is butt hurt over tech buying players (I don't know if it's just Campbell shelling out the cash, or his former partner John Sellers also helping with football? We know he donates to softball) needs to get a grip. We both know tech's ceiling is the playoffs. You and I and everyone here knows you aren't winning a NC or even making it. It's just not going to happen. Take a look at the top 10 in recruiting and tell me Tech can match all of what those teams offer (prestige, money, NC's, NC appearances (aggy is the outlier, and they aren't winning shit, either), helmet schools, blue bloods, new blue bloods, etc will always take front and center no matter how much money whomever is shelling out). A blue blood/new blue blood will win it every year. People keep saying there's parity in football now. No there isn't. Recruiting shows that.

Just take a look at our class this year alone. You bought a project tackle for stupid money, but you did get a really good player in Guyton, but you better hope he works out better than your last 5*, Micah Hudson. You also have just four 4* recruits for this cycle. 2025 you have one 4* and all 3* with 18 commits. 2024 Micah Hudson (bust) and four 4* recruits with 22 commits. 2023 Five 4* and the rest 3*  with 28 commits. 2022 One low 4* and the rest 3*with 18 commits. 

That ain't going to work, son. When we have more 5* kids in 2025 class than you have 4* kids (One) there's a problem.

 

Yeah I mean it's going to take time if it happens at all. The goal this year was to win a Big 12 championship. We're on track, half a season to go. We'll see what happens. Can't build a program overnight, etc.

Anyway, all of that RB talk makes me super pissed about Quinten Joyner getting hurt before the season started, especially considering that we would also have had a true triple threat at RB, though our dual threat is doing pretty good and I'd probably place it in the top 10 in your list:

Cameron Dickey - 91c, 591y, 6.5ypc, 8td

J'Koby Williams - 68c, 358y, 5.3ypc, 4td

My point about OSU's WRs that I don't think you caught was that Illinois also bottled them up in a similar way and they don't have anything resembling an elite defense. That's all I was saying. They're obviously good and talented but they haven't been amazing by any measurement.

I've said this 100 times but it's not even close to just Cody Campbell donating, he's just the most visible guy/the one that set up the NIL collective. There are actually quite a few, most of them don't have their names in the headlines. Several have their names on facilities (namely Pat Mahomes and the guy who the football and basketball facilities are named after) and/or rooms in the facilities, but most prefer not to have their names in the news. Both of those guys could die tomorrow and it would continue completely unabated.

Also, no one is saying there is parity in football now, just that there's a lot more parity than there was 5 years ago, which is objectively true, at least at the FBS P4 level. That's actually a big part of the reason why no one has really separated themselves from the pack nationally (arguably Ohio State but again, arguably as we've discussed) and it's difficult to say with certainty if a number of teams are even good, Oregon being a great example. Ole Miss being another. Hell, they are ranked top 5 and have scraped by with 1-score wins over 3 of the worst P4 teams and have a shit defense. 

Look at the B1G. Tell me who is objectively good in that conference outside of Ohio State and Indiana. You can't, because there are a million ifs and buts. Oregon only lost by 10 and got a few shots in, but if you watched that game they got physically put in a coffin by Indiana, a team that on paper has much less talent than they do, and it wasn't close. They got handled, I'm not sure Indiana wouldn't win 10 times out of 10 if they played that many in a row.

With the SEC, there is at least more data there to point to some good teams. Are any of them great? Bama looks like they are trending in that direction after getting embarrassed in the season opener. A&M at least has an impressive road win. Texas finally broke the seal, and IMO looked pretty good doing it, but Oklahoma is fucking dogshit and we all know it, despite their top 15 ranking. Tennessee has a really good RB room (as you mentioned) and a pretty good QB but their defense is absolutely horrendous. We know they're not winning anything.

The point I'm getting at is the reason everything seems so silly right now, like Ole Miss being top 5 even when everyone knows they're not, is the increased parity. Rankings are a disaster because no one knows where to put anyone outside of a few outliers. Computer models are probably far more reliable at this point. No one is saying true parity has come to college football, that would be silly, but the parity level has noticeably increased and it's goofy as hell to pretend otherwise. 

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7 hours ago, Iceman said:

Texas very seldom does NOT have the most talent on the field.  Same for A&M.  Y'all have the perfect coach and still never get it done, unless you have a generational QB, again, SURROUNDED by the most talented team.

Yet, other teams will still strap on the pads and lace up the cleats this week. It's fucking weird.

 The equation absolutely favors Texas.  Save for the miracle of Vincent Young overcoming Mack Brown, ya'll come up short.  Repeatedly, Yet you think other folks should stop in their tracks and take a knee. That's why other fanbases laugh at you.

The lion doesn't talk about being the apex predator.  It just is.

Sometimes I get nostalgic about the Big 12, but then I read some self-pitying (yet somehow entitled) bullshit like what you've written here and I remember how happy I am we left. This born loser mentality is why Tech is perfect for the Big 12.

Hope y'all enjoy being in an orphanage for teams the SEC and B1G don't want. All it took for Tech to "ascend" was a billion dollars and your betters jumping ship. Congrats.  

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16 hours ago, Iceman said:

I hate them.  I hate being by them.  i hate interacting with them.  Even when you beat them, they never shut the fuck up.

That sounds suspiciously like a true rivalry... 

 

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21 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Sometimes I get nostalgic about the Big 12, but then I read some self-pitying (yet somehow entitled) bullshit like what you've written here and I remember how happy I am we left. This born loser mentality is why Tech is perfect for the Big 12.

Hope y'all enjoy being in an orphanage for teams the SEC and B1G don't want. All it took for Tech to "ascend" was a billion dollars and your betters jumping ship. Congrats.  

Lol. 
I am a citizen of Texas. It belongs to me as much as it does you, so fuck off with the 'betters' nonsense.
 

Sorry not sorry.  Your endorsement is neither required nor requested. 

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7 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Your mom

Quote me next time so I know to chirp back, Sally. 

1 minute ago, Iceman said:

Lol. 
I am a citizen of Texas. It belongs to me as much as it does you, so fuck off with the 'betters' nonsense.
 

Sorry not sorry.  Your endorsement is neither required nor requested. 

The reading comprehension of Tech grads is truly undefeated. Good work. 

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CFB Player Rank: The top 25 players at midseason - ESPN


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11. David Bailey
LB, Texas Tech, Senior
2025 notable stats: 11 solo tackles, 8.5 sacks, 2 FF
2025 preseason ranking: 57

Bailey was one of the most highly-touted players in the transfer portal after recording eight tackles for loss and seven sacks for Stanford last year. He already has 9.5 TFL and 8.5 sacks, respectively, in half a season in Lubbock. The Red Raiders are in the driver's seat for a spot in the Big 12 Championship because of a transformed defense, and for as good as Jacob Rodriguez, Romello Height and others have been, Bailey's explosive pass rushing has played a massive role in the turnaround. -- Connelly

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2. Jacob Rodriguez
LB, Texas Tech, Senior
2025 notable stats: 21 solo tackles, 2 FF, 3 PD
2025 preseason ranking: 92

If Rueben Bain Jr. has been the best defensive player in the sport, then Rodriguez is right on his heels. The Red Raiders boast the stingiest run defense in the country -- allowing only 62.5 rushing yards per game -- and Rodriguez is right at the center of it all. The senior has made his impact felt in the ground game and the air game, forcing multiple fumbles, deflecting passes and snatching multiple interceptions. It's safe to say opposing offenses hate to see him coming. -- Uggetti

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I'm glad to see that someone is starting to crack down on that degenerate fan base. Anyone who ever went to a UT-Tech game in Lubbock knows that Tech fans are by far the most hostile fanbase. 

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2 hours ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Red Raider degenerates on Twitter are pissed they can't throw their tortillas anymore. Brett Yormark has become persona non grata in the hub city. 

 

This has lead to a plethora of tweets saying "fuck the Big 12, Campbell needs to get us into the SEC." Lol these goons think they can buy their invitation. I also don't think it's going to end well with this Cody Campbell character. The football team and fans seem to treat him as some unlimited piggy bank. I imagine he'll get sick of that shit after awhile. 

Campbell isn't even their biggest donor, he's just the most vocal one.   Tech will not be running out of money anytime soon.  More than that, and what people seem to have trouble seeing, is they've built up the entire program.  The facilities, the management, the coaching, all of it competes with the top programs now.   The only thing they lack is skins on the wall.  We'll see if that's enough to keep them away from the big boy table, but whining from fans of traditional blue bloods who don't like the new money walking around in the wrong pair of shoes isn't going to stop it. 

I find it funny that Tech fans suddenly sound just like UT fans did when the Horns were in the Big 12, with the "fuck the Big 12, get us out of here" talk.   They've got the target on their back now, I guess.   As for them getting to the SEC, I don't think it's going to shake out like that.  Whatever super league is eventually formed may well include Tech.  They're certainly more deserving than at least half the programs in the SEC and Big 10, even if they're not a historic blue blood.

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2 minutes ago, horn009 said:

I'm glad to see that someone is starting to crack down on that degenerate fan base. Anyone who ever went to a UT-Tech game in Lubbock knows that Tech fans are by far the most hostile fanbase. 

No doubt. Games there feel more like a pro game crowd than a college one.  There is a relatively simple explanation for it, though.  Their location prevents alumni from easily attending games.  At least 80%, but probably more, of the folks in the stands never stepped foot in a classroom at Tech.  They rely on the local community (the county has 330k with a trade area close to 1M) to fill seats.  A ton of them are blue-collar folks whose company bought up a bunch of tickets and handed them out to employees.  It's a rough crowd, and often a very drunk one.   There isn't another major school in Texas that has this issue.  The percentage of college graduates at UT games has to be north of 70%.   It's a different vibe, for sure.  It's kind of cool how much support they get from the locals, imo, but it does make the gameday experience less than family-friendly.   When you bump into Tech people at away games, they tend to be alumni and normal people, not discernibly different from UT grads.

I personally find the Aggie gameday atmosphere much more uncomfortable, but for very different reasons.

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3 hours ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Red Raider degenerates on Twitter are pissed they can't throw their tortillas anymore. Brett Yormark has become persona non grata in the hub city. 

 

This has lead to a plethora of tweets saying "fuck the Big 12, Campbell needs to get us into the SEC." Lol these goons think they can buy their invitation. I also don't think it's going to end well with this Cody Campbell character. The football team and fans seem to treat him as some unlimited piggy bank. I imagine he'll get sick of that shit after awhile. 

So they think that Greg Sankey is going to welcome tortilla throwing with open arms? 

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30 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

CFB Player Rank: The top 25 players at midseason - ESPN


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11. David Bailey
LB, Texas Tech, Senior
2025 notable stats: 11 solo tackles, 8.5 sacks, 2 FF
2025 preseason ranking: 57

Bailey was one of the most highly-touted players in the transfer portal after recording eight tackles for loss and seven sacks for Stanford last year. He already has 9.5 TFL and 8.5 sacks, respectively, in half a season in Lubbock. The Red Raiders are in the driver's seat for a spot in the Big 12 Championship because of a transformed defense, and for as good as Jacob Rodriguez, Romello Height and others have been, Bailey's explosive pass rushing has played a massive role in the turnaround. -- Connelly

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2. Jacob Rodriguez
LB, Texas Tech, Senior
2025 notable stats: 21 solo tackles, 2 FF, 3 PD
2025 preseason ranking: 92

If Rueben Bain Jr. has been the best defensive player in the sport, then Rodriguez is right on his heels. The Red Raiders boast the stingiest run defense in the country -- allowing only 62.5 rushing yards per game -- and Rodriguez is right at the center of it all. The senior has made his impact felt in the ground game and the air game, forcing multiple fumbles, deflecting passes and snatching multiple interceptions. It's safe to say opposing offenses hate to see him coming. -- Uggetti

Dayum, 8.5 sacks midseason is bonkers. Hat tip to David Bailey. 

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It would be interesting to see results if visitor sections in the Tech stadium were outlined clearly.

There isn't a penalty for tortilla-flinging if they aren't hitting the field... is there?

Posted
32 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Dayum, 8.5 sacks midseason is bonkers. Hat tip to David Bailey. 

He's an animal, been fun to watch.

3 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

It would be interesting to see results if visitor sections in the Tech stadium were outlined clearly.

There isn't a penalty for tortilla-flinging if they aren't hitting the field... is there?

There isn't, as far as I know. We're also expressly allowed to do it on the opening kickoff.

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5 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

He's an animal, been fun to watch.

There isn't, as far as I know. We're also expressly allowed to do it on the opening kickoff.

My understanding is that there are two warnings given to a home team for throwing items onto the field before the 15-yard assessments begin. Tech has decided to keep one warning as cushion and willingly take one warning on the opening kick.

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