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11 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Texas fans don’t do “average/mediocre to solid/good” very well, which is where Ewers falls. Quarterbacks are either treated like legends who walk as gods amongst us, or complete and total garbage.

The guy had his ups and downs but ultimately underachieved. And we’re about to upgrade, which should have everyone excited.

That is an internet/social media thing. You have to be on the extremes

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2 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

It is absolutely correct that we are all limited.  That did not stop you from referencing Worthy or Jones as screwing up.  It’s odd that Worthy has played with 4 different QBs yet only quit on one.  And only quit on him for part of one season.  Or that maybe Jones, a soccer player that had been in multiple offenses, right side and left side too, might have a miscommunication thus causing a late pickup.

Yours, and pretty much everyone else’s, evaluation is subjective.  So if you’re discussing TWP, that is subjective, but keep in mind those are evaluated against a standard to which all other QBs are evaluated.  That’s a bit different than you and I never attempting to define what it it looks then arguing on this board.

As for sacks, those are evaluated as to who is at fault.  I actually looked this up the other day.  Shedeur led the country in “self sacks.”  17 it was.  Believe QE was tied for 2nd or 3rd at 14.  There’s also data on sacks per time pressured. A sack is a sack but the pressure is subjective. I believe it was 2022 and 2024 in which QE did not compare favorably to others in sacks per pressure.  Guys like a Michael Vick, Caleb Williams, Justin Fields will self sack.  That’s probably two-fold - lack of decisiveness and attempting to make a play. That’s not QE, at least to their extreme.

Anyone reading my posts can do so knowing that admittedly I’m not a big Ewers fan.  Some of it off field, some of it on field, some of it media/fan induced.  I do believe he’s better prepared for the NFL than quite a few other QBs.  I do believe he’s has characteristics that could make it work at that level, maybe quite well.  He is in a reasonably good spot to help him get there.

How many “self sacks” (dumbest new metric in football) prevent an interception?
Is the QB just giving up on the play?
Was the design of the play just not there and so it is better to take the sack than even trying to throw it away?

Did the offensive line miss an assignment and allow a rusher to come in unblocked?

Many more reasons.

Posted
20 minutes ago, Derka said:

dude- giving fair criticisms of quinn ewers is not hating on him. this is the fundamental misunderstanding that leads to all of this nonsense. anyone who speaks honestly about quinn is accused of hating him. it’s nonsense. this mind frame plagues this fan base and this forum, and it’s the genesis of every single fight and thread derailment. calling a spade a spade is not hat, it’s reality.

and FTR, *you* and your people are being very aggy. you’re taking an overhyped, mediocre player, and because he wears your teams jersey you’re out here worshipping him, on a crusade to exalt him, and reacting emotionally every time someone points out his factual flaws and shortcomings. that is what aggies do, and that is what you QE zealots have been doing for years.

Proof of this worship?  You claimed to have receipts.  

Posted
1 hour ago, Tex Long said:

If only Quinn could've played for Greg Davis... 

This is proof positive that Sark needs an OC.

A man can only handle so many bubble screens designed to lose yards.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I noticed you didn't mention how that famed offensive line and running backs averaged 1.8 yards against Arizona State's powerhouse of a defense, and against UGA it was 1.1 yards per carry and 2.0 yards per carry vs Ohio State.    

And in this selective group, it looks like this,  

Opponent,  Passing Attempts, Rushing, YPC

Arky , 32, 41, 3.4
Ken  , 31. 47. 5.3
Aggy, 28, 50, 4.8
UGA, 46, 28, 1.1

Overall split, 45% passing, 55% rushing.  But the outlier is the UGA game where the rushing yard production were very low and Texas had to pass.  Without that, it was 60% rushing to 40% passing.  

When you look at the offensive rushing output from Arky, Ken, Aggy, (3.4 ypc, 0.7 ypc, 3.0 ypc) It seems likely that the plan was to stifle the other team and run the ball.

But I am sure you will just ignore this and move goal posts yet again.  

Great post.

If you have any doubts about how the lack of a rushing game can affect the performance of a QB look no further than John Elway.

Great QB who could not win a championship without Terrell Davis running the ball.

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22 minutes ago, Derka said:

there goes derka, always insulting people and making it personal. guy can never disagree with anyone without just sticking to football, he always has to take it there. why does he keep doing this to us?!?!?!?!

Is this the gaslighting you claimed to be a victim of?  Because you claimed that people worship QE, you claimed they were "zealots" akin to MAGA types and people who chug apple cider vinegar.  Those are not exactly kind statements and comparisons.   And when presented with objective material you just double down instead of refute the material or explain how my interpretation is incorrect.  Which it can be.  

 

 

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14 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

And by any definition, QE was a good/solid fucking QB at Texas.

like for example PFF rating him as the 13th best qb in the sec and the 200th best qb in the nation last season.

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4 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

How many “self sacks” (dumbest new metric in football) prevent an interception?
Is the QB just giving up on the play?
Was the design of the play just not there and so it is better to take the sack than even trying to throw it away?

Did the offensive line miss an assignment and allow a rusher to come in unblocked?

Many more reasons.

It is not perfect, but from my understanding there is considerable time into defining all this.  I do not personally know all those specifics as to what a self sack would include.

If the Oline whiffs on a rusher, that is not a self sack.  If the LT gets beat, it’s not against him self sack.  If the QB holds it 5 seconds, then runs into a rushing then it’s probably a self sack.  There may be an element of WRs are open, but there’s no throw.  I don’t know.

In the end, there is a grading system.  If the QB throws it away to avoid a sack, that’s not against him.  Just as a drop of a well throw ball is not.  It is assigning responsibility to the appropriate parties.

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14 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I noticed you didn't mention how that famed offensive line and running backs averaged 1.8 yards against Arizona State's powerhouse of a defense, and against UGA it was 1.1 yards per carry and 2.0 yards per carry vs Ohio State.    

and i noticed that you and yours somehow don’t understand that a)we lost our top two RBs for last year and were down to third stringers, and b)it’s a lot harder to run the ball when absolutely nobody is worried about the qb beating you. hard to blame third stringers for not lighting the world on fire when the qb is more likely to self sack or miss a wide open man than he is to make a play.

you know colt mccoy’s teams couldn’t run the ball either. colt had to lead the team in rushing while also running for his life on every passing play behind one of the worst o lines in recent memory, and yet he still managed to be a wildly better and more successful qb than quinn ewers, all while having a weaker supporting cast + mack “scared to death” brown and GDGD running the show. weird how great qb’s are able to overcome adversity and lead their teams like that.

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13 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

How many “self sacks” (dumbest new metric in football) prevent an interception?
Is the QB just giving up on the play?
Was the design of the play just not there and so it is better to take the sack than even trying to throw it away?

Did the offensive line miss an assignment and allow a rusher to come in unblocked?

Many more reasons.

That is really not the question. Self-sack generally goes to a QBs ability to either move in the proper direction or the ability to throw it away/complete a pass. You wont get a "self-sack" for someone completely whiffing on a pass rusher. 

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11 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I noticed you didn't mention how that famed offensive line and running backs averaged 1.8 yards against Arizona State's powerhouse of a defense, and against UGA it was 1.1 yards per carry and 2.0 yards per carry vs Ohio State.    

And in this selective group, it looks like this,  

Opponent,  Passing Attempts, Rushing, YPC

Arky , 32, 41, 3.4
Ken  , 31. 47. 5.3
Aggy, 28, 50, 4.8
UGA, 46, 28, 1.1

Overall split, 45% passing, 55% rushing.  But the outlier is the UGA game where the rushing yard production were very low and Texas had to pass.  Without that, it was 60% rushing to 40% passing.  

When you look at the offensive rushing output from Arky, Ken, Aggy, (3.4 ypc, 0.7 ypc, 3.0 ypc) It seems likely that the plan was to stifle the other team and run the ball.

But I am sure you will just ignore this and move goal posts yet again.  

Did you actually watch any of those games at all?


Quinn Ewers so so ineffective vs Kentucky we literally gave up trying to pass.

Quinn is the literal reason why we didn't shut the Aggies out because he threw a pick 6. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

If you have any doubts about how the lack of a rushing game can affect the performance of a QB look no further than John Elway.

wait wait wait wait wait- you’re blaming tre wisner and jaydon blue for making life harder on quinn?!?!?!

 

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

That is really not the question. Self-sack generally goes to a QBs ability to either move in the proper direction or the ability to throw it away/complete a pass. You wont get a "self-sack" for someone completely whiffing on a pass rusher. 

For instance in the Georgia game where he was sacked near our goal line and Kelvin Banks did a marvelous job against the rusher only for Quinn to get sacked.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

It is absolutely correct that we are all limited.  That did not stop you from referencing Worthy or Jones as screwing up.  It’s odd that Worthy has played with 4 different QBs yet only quit on one.  And only quit on him for part of one season.  Or that maybe Jones, a soccer player that had been in multiple offenses, right side and left side too, might have a miscommunication thus causing a late pickup.

Yours, and pretty much everyone else’s, evaluation is subjective.  So if you’re discussing TWP, that is subjective, but keep in mind those are evaluated against a standard to which all other QBs are evaluated.  That’s a bit different than you and I never attempting to define what it it looks then arguing on this board.

As for sacks, those are evaluated as to who is at fault.  I actually looked this up the other day.  Shedeur led the country in “self sacks.”  17 it was.  Believe QE was tied for 2nd or 3rd at 14.  There’s also data on sacks per time pressured. A sack is a sack but the pressure is subjective. I believe it was 2022 and 2024 in which QE did not compare favorably to others in sacks per pressure.  Guys like a Michael Vick, Caleb Williams, Justin Fields will self sack.  That’s probably two-fold - lack of decisiveness and attempting to make a play. That’s not QE, at least to their extreme.

Anyone reading my posts can do so knowing that admittedly I’m not a big Ewers fan.  Some of it off field, some of it on field, some of it media/fan induced.  I do believe he’s better prepared for the NFL than quite a few other QBs.  I do believe he’s has characteristics that could make it work at that level, maybe quite well.  He is in a reasonably good spot to help him get there.

Yes, I was frustrated by Worthy because it was plain to see the skill he had on the field and it looked like he didn't give it his full effort on several plays that we discussed in the past.  It was entirely subjective as a discussion.  Jones' challenges coming from a different background I was ignorant of early on, but seeing him take himself out of the play had me wondering why he was the best option we had.  I think Chris Hall was not a great player but he played his ass off.   Haines, Hager, Swoopes were all frustrating at times, but most of that belongs on the coaches who put them on the field.  

I was not aware of the underlined part, thanks for that, I would like to check it out sometime in the future (I screwed around too much as of now).  

Posted
Just now, Derka said:

like for example PFF rating him as the 13th best qb in the sec and the 200th best qb in the nation last season.

He also led Texas to the following records assfuck.

2022 - 11-3

2023 - 12-2 Big XII Championship - Football final four

2024 - 12-3 SEC best regular season record SEC Championship game (OT loss thanks o-line) Football final four and the only team that went back to back

Yes he did not win a national championship but Jesus fucking Christ what more do you want?
Guy was a fucking Longhorn legend and if you are going to shit on great Texas players that did not win a national championship the list is very long.

Blaming that on Quinn is fucking beyond stupid.

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18 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I noticed you didn't mention how that famed offensive line and running backs averaged 1.8 yards against Arizona State's powerhouse of a defense, and against UGA it was 1.1 yards per carry and 2.0 yards per carry vs Ohio State.    

And in this selective group, it looks like this,  

Opponent,  Passing Attempts, Rushing, YPC

Arky , 32, 41, 3.4
Ken  , 31. 47. 5.3
Aggy, 28, 50, 4.8
UGA, 46, 28, 1.1

Overall split, 45% passing, 55% rushing.  But the outlier is the UGA game where the rushing yard production were very low and Texas had to pass.  Without that, it was 60% rushing to 40% passing.  

When you look at the offensive rushing output from Arky, Ken, Aggy, (3.4 ypc, 0.7 ypc, 3.0 ypc) It seems likely that the plan was to stifle the other team and run the ball.

But I am sure you will just ignore this and move goal posts yet again.  

This.  Forest and Trees going on here with Quinn.  Quinn was fine(could manning have done better, maybe but unlikely).  I'm more pissed at Flood/Sark for the OL.  It's better obviously but it is still not "fixed" IMO.  I realized it would take some time but I want to see that group take the next step into Saban/Bama territory.  Saban dominated because he had OL's that made it not matter if your QB was Quinn Ewers or Arch Manning or god forbid Jake fucking Coker...

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2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

This.  Forest and Trees going on here with Quinn.  Quinn was fine(could manning have done better, maybe but unlikely).  I'm more pissed at Flood/Sark for the OL.  It's better obviously but it is still not "fixed" IMO.  I realized it would take some time but I want to see that group take the next step into Saban/Bama territory.  Saban dominated because he had OL's that made it not matter if your QB was Quinn Ewers or Arch Manning or god forbid Jake fucking Coker...

Quinn played with a better offensive line than Colt did so please stop blaming the OL for Quinn.

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5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

For instance in the Georgia game where he was sacked near our goal line and Kelvin Banks did a marvelous job against the rusher only for Quinn to get sacked.

 

 

without even knowing how the stat is calculated, steamboat automatically assumes that it has an inherent bias against quinn. this is a great example of what i’m talking about when i say “cult-like”, “zealots”, and “worshipping”- any piece of factual information that questions their own delusional reality is immediately assumed to either be fake news, or inherently designed to undeservedly make quinn look bad. same goes for the “by any observable metric or stat QE was a good Texas QB”, after we’ve already established that PFF graded him as one of the worst qbs in the sec and the 200th best qb in america. just ignore any and everything that refutes your own created reality. hope that clears it up for nivek.

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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Did you actually watch any of those games at all?


Quinn Ewers so so ineffective vs Kentucky we literally gave up trying to pass.

Quinn is the literal reason why we didn't shut the Aggies out because he threw a pick 6. 

 

My god are you that stupid.

We were running all over their ass early on.

There was no reason to throw much.

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10 minutes ago, Derka said:

like for example PFF rating him as the 13th best qb in the sec and the 200th best qb in the nation last season.

Pro Football Focus is a company. Wiki: "PFF is criticized by the analytics community regarding the accuracy and veracity of its ratings. In contrast to the purely quantitative ratings released by sources such as Football Outsiders, TeamRankings, and numberFire, PFF uses qualitative and opinion-based grading as the root of its 0–100 Player Grades – not its advanced statistics. As such, the 0–100 Player Grades are not truly quantitative and could be seen as being prone to bias, poor sample sizing, or other issues."

Still, you're right. It's a metric saying QE was subpar (last year). But you're hanging your whole argument on that and where GMs drafted him and ignoring every traditional statistic (like passing and winning percentage), and treating your opinion as fact. Can't you see that?

Posted
Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Quinn played with a better offensive line than Colt did so please stop blaming the OL for Quinn.

Yes Colt was a much better QB than Quinn.  is that your point?

Posted
8 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

He also led Texas to the following records assfuck.

so when the team wins, it’s because of quinn, but when quinn repeatedly fails to move the chains against inferior opponents despite being surrounded by more nfl talent than any qb in america the last two years, well then that’s not his fault. it’s sark, it’s the running backs it’s the o line- anybody but quinn.

do you see? do you see how fanatical that is? do you see how you give quinn all of the credit and none of the blame? “prove to me that we’re zealots!!!” he said while taking his fifth sip of poison kool-aid during his child sacrifice ritual.

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

without even knowing how the stat is calculated, steamboat automatically assumes that it has an inherent bias against quinn. this is a great example of what i’m talking about when i say “cult-like”, “zealots”, and “worshipping”- any piece of factual information that questions their own delusional reality is immediately assumed to either be fake news, or inherently designed to undeservedly make quinn look bad. same goes for the “by any observable metric or stat QE was a good Texas QB”, after we’ve already established that PFF graded him as one of the worst qbs in the sec and the 200th best qb in america. just ignore any and everything that refutes your own created reality. hope that clears it up for nivek.

Holy shit….

You really posted this?
You are the only cult like figure on this entire thread along with an assist with BOAW.

All both of you are doing is trying to tell the rest of us how the reason we did not win a national championship was because of Quinn.

Which is saying that Arch would have been better which not one person, including Sark, knows.

please….

You two are the cult.

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

Yes Colt was a much better QB than Quinn.  is that your point?

My point is Quinn is the reason we don't have a national title considering the ~30 NFL draft picks he's played with. You're an absolute dipshit if you don't believe that better QB play results in that.

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4 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

My god are you that stupid.

We were running all over their ass early on.

There was no reason to throw much.

we scored 7 points in the second half, and that lone scoring drive was mostly led by tre wisner’s feet and matthew gilden’s hands. wisner did the bulk of the work including converting a 4th down, and then golden had to slow down and jump towards the boundary to haul in a pass from QE on 3rd and 10. 

that’s every scoring drive that quinn “led” us to in that second half. so again- you give QE all if the credit for every win the last two years, but none of the blame when his team failed to move the ball.

z•e•a•l•o•t•s

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12 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Great post.

If you have any doubts about how the lack of a rushing game can affect the performance of a QB look no further than John Elway.

Great QB who could not win a championship without Terrell Davis running the ball.

I’m going to throw in a no one gives a shit about your Al Bundy perception of football.  But it does impact my perspective.  I played QB in the high school.  Also started two ways the entirety of that time.  Multiple sports.  Successes.  Failures.  At all of it.

My school is a bit unique.  Small but mid-sized classification.  A guy has started in the NFL, albeit briefly.  There have been record setter, players of the year.  You don’t just see the player, but you know a bit about their teammates, their families, their teammates families, etc.

What you say is true.  Here is what is also true.  Those offensive players of the year, they had the best supporting casts, the best offensive system and obviously added their skill set.  The guy that did the most beyond high school had a mediocre record from what I recall.  The overall environment was conducive to success or less conducive to success if you will.

The environment is incredibly important and more so to the QB than any other position.  At the University of Texas it’s never been more conducive to team and QB success than the past two years.  In both cases, there are and will be comparisons, but it’s far more complex as to how the final outcome is derived.

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12 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

He also led Texas to the following records assfuck.

2022 - 11-3

2023 - 12-2 Big XII Championship - Football final four

2024 - 12-3 SEC best regular season record SEC Championship game (OT loss thanks o-line) Football final four and the only team that went back to back

Yes he did not win a national championship but Jesus fucking Christ what more do you want?
Guy was a fucking Longhorn legend and if you are going to shit on great Texas players that did not win a national championship the list is very long.

Blaming that on Quinn is fucking beyond stupid.

we probably make the championship game if the D doesn't allow a 75 yard screen pass untouched for a TD with 10 second left in the half.

we were only in the semi because our O bailed out our D who couldn't stop one guy in the 4th quarter against ASU and our K choked.

Posted
29 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Is this the gaslighting you claimed to be a victim of? 

the gaslighting is when *you* whine about me saying i was right and then tell *me* that i am the one with a victim complex. never heard of a guy dunking all over a couple dozen people while also being a victim. that’s a new one.

its also when *y’all* spend page after page after page raging all over my football takes and being combative and insulting in every single post you make, only to then turn around and say, “derka is such a combative pos, he always does this.”

you might be able to gaslight your own self into believing that shit, but not me. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

My point is Quinn is the reason we don't have a national title considering the ~30 NFL draft picks he's played with. You're an absolute dipshit if you don't believe that better QB play results in that.

everyone on this board knows you are a dumbass.  Sark is the reason we don't have a national title if you think Quinn is the reason.

Posted
25 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Did you actually watch any of those games at all?


Quinn Ewers so so ineffective vs Kentucky we literally gave up trying to pass.

Quinn is the literal reason why we didn't shut the Aggies out because he threw a pick 6. 

 

Really?

Quinn was 20-31 for over 190 yards with two TD’s and no picks with one sack.

He was so ineffective.

Posted
3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

My point is Quinn is the reason we don't have a national title considering the ~30 NFL draft picks he's played with.

Let's take a look at the two teams that knocked us out of the playoffs:

UW 2024:  10 drafted (3 in the 1st round)

Ohio State 2025:  14 drafted (4 in the 1st round)

 

Texas 2024:  11 drafted (2 in the 1st round)

Texas 2025:  12 drafted (3 in the 1st round)

 

For those not keeping score at home, that's 24-23 picks (opponents v Texas) and 7-5 1st round picks.  We were in pretty high cotton in those games.

Posted
37 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Is this the gaslighting you claimed to be a victim of?  Because you claimed that people worship QE, you claimed they were "zealots" akin to MAGA types and people who chug apple cider vinegar.  Those are not exactly kind statements and comparisons.   And when presented with objective material you just double down instead of refute the material or explain how my interpretation is incorrect.  Which it can be.  

Is this a bad thing? I don't drink apple cider vinegar, but I can see someone doing that for allergies or to clear their sinuses. I did not realize it was crazy and/or politically oriented behavior. 

Anywho, new page so here's a new Quinn gif. Just so we can reminisce about our guy now that he's off to the NFL:

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If y'all remember, this play was actually 4th & goal after we failed to punch it in from the 9 on three running plays. Rojo picked up like 7 yards but Ewers to Worthy was needed to get us the last 2. 

"Ewers said on Monday there was a passing concept to the right and that he had to check the coverage pre-snap to see where the ball was going. Worthy in 1-on-1 coverage is an easy call, and Ewers’ throw is on the money for the go-ahead score."

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2 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Is this a bad thing? I don't drink apple cider vinegar, but I can see someone doing that for allergies or to clear their sinuses. I did not realize it was crazy and/or politically oriented behavior. 

Anywho, new page so here's a new Quinn gif. Just so we can reminisce about our guy now that he's off to the NFL:

oFGcMQ.gif

If y'all remember, this play was actually 4th & goal after we failed to punch it in from the 9 on three running plays. Rojo picked up like 7 yards but Ewers to Worthy was needed to get us the last 2. 

"Ewers said on Monday there was a passing concept to the right and that he had to check the coverage pre-snap to see where the ball was going. Worthy in 1-on-1 coverage is an easy call, and Ewers’ throw is on the money for the go-ahead score."

None of his good throws are allowed to be mentioned without some sort of caveat according to a few posters here so get ready.

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1 minute ago, Steamboat1874 said:

None of his good throws are allowed to be mentioned without some sort of caveat according to a few posters here so get ready.

"worthy was wide open, my grandmama could have made that throw" - some surly poster

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14 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

Pro Football Focus is a company. Wiki: "PFF is criticized by the analytics community regarding the accuracy and veracity of its ratings. In contrast to the purely quantitative ratings released by sources such as Football Outsiders, TeamRankings, and numberFire, PFF uses qualitative and opinion-based grading as the root of its 0–100 Player Grades – not its advanced statistics. As such, the 0–100 Player Grades are not truly quantitative and could be seen as being prone to bias, poor sample sizing, or other issues."

Still, you're right. It's a metric saying QE was subpar (last year). But you're hanging your whole argument on that and where GMs drafted him and ignoring every traditional statistic (like passing and winning percentage), and treating your opinion as fact. Can't you see that?

Traditional stats alone are not worth much.  On the University of Texas top 10 single game passing lists for yards and TDs, Casey Thompson shows up as much or more than Quinn.  Throwing to non-drafted WRs, a TE we kicked out, a younger Worthy.  Are you willing to place them on the same level?

Winning percentage?  What’s our win percentage with and without Ewers the past 3 years?  I think the one loss without him represents our highest offensive scoring output in a loss in that time.

DFEI/OFEI are quantitative.  Our defense is top 10 3 years running.  Our offense is not.  How does one allocate the defenses share of win percentage?

 

I am largely arguing to argue.  But y’all know derks and how that goes.  I have no problem with him or y’all arguing with him.  It adds to my entertainment dollar.  So keep it up.

Posted
19 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

we probably make the championship game if the D doesn't allow a 75 yard screen pass untouched for a TD with 10 second left in the half.

we were only in the semi because our O bailed out our D who couldn't stop one guy in the 4th quarter against ASU and our K choked.

This team failed quinn

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4 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

None of his good throws are allowed to be mentioned without some sort of caveat according to a few posters here so get ready.

I've posted a Quinn gif on each of the last three pages and everyone was perfectly cordial. 

You need to understand that some of the people in this thread aren't quite right in the head, and by interacting with them (either to agree or disagree) you make things worse.  

There's no good way to poke a hornets nest, so don't bother. 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Let's take a look at the two teams that knocked us out of the playoffs:

UW 2024:  10 drafted (3 in the 1st round)

Ohio State 2025:  14 drafted (4 in the 1st round)

 

Texas 2024:  11 drafted (2 in the 1st round)

Texas 2025:  12 drafted (3 in the 1st round)

 

For those not keeping score at home, that's 24-23 picks (opponents v Texas) and 7-5 1st round picks.  We were in pretty high cotton in those games.

We have the most players drafted of any team the past two years, objective fact

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

We have the most players drafted of any team the past two years, objective fact

Just like the facts I posted.  My point stands, we got beat by extremely talented teams.  Disagree?

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

We have the most players drafted of any team the past two years, objective fact

Between OSU, UW, and UT, we're the only team to make the CFP semis the past two years. So that tracks. 

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Just now, Im_smarter_then_you said:

This team failed quinn

not really.  This team was a case of "some failure to go around".  the D was championship level save a very few WTF's, O was certainly good enough, ST was no bueno basically.

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Better QB play in both of those games, we win plain and simple. 

our DB's could not stop UW.  they were a disaster.

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17 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Let's take a look at the two teams that knocked us out of the playoffs:

UW 2024:  10 drafted (3 in the 1st round)

Ohio State 2025:  14 drafted (4 in the 1st round)

 

Texas 2024:  11 drafted (2 in the 1st round)

Texas 2025:  12 drafted (3 in the 1st round)

 

For those not keeping score at home, that's 24-23 picks (opponents v Texas) and 7-5 1st round picks.  We were in pretty high cotton in those games.

Yo JJ.  Of those 7 1st round picks from our opponents, how many were offensive and defensive?

6 offensive guys, 1 defensive guy.

On our side, we had 3 O guys and 2 D guys.

That UW team was pretty heavily weighted to offense.

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Just now, dcar00 said:

our DB's could not stop UW.  they were a disaster.

That was Penix on fire as much as anything, IMO, just playing totally out of his head, killing us.

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

We have the most players drafted of any team the past two years, objective fact

And that does not mean shit as far as a single game outcome is concerned.

Way too many variables.

Pretty sure you can find plenty of college football games where a team with a bunch of draft picks loses to a a team with very few or even none.

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1 minute ago, Had Enough said:

Yo JJ.  Of those 7 1st round picks from our opponents, how many were offensive and defensive?

6 offensive guys, 1 defensive guy.

On our side, we had 3 O guys and 2 D guys.

That UW team was pretty heavily weighted to offense.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?  We got beat by two very talented teams.  It takes 22 guys (well, 24+) not 1 guy.  This thread is fucking stupid.

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