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45 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Like I said. This thread is weird.  Clark is definitely getting  undeserved shit from the vets and others that she will eventually just have play herself out of, and she will because she’s just that good.  It sucks that she has to deal with it but she isn’t the first. 
 

But there is this just this weird undertone, je ne sais quoi, from those complaining about it that goes beyond that. It’s like the online horde complaining about the all women Ghostbusters cast.  Closest thing I can think of to it, in any event. 

This is the Caitlin Clark thread not the wnba analysis thread

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I have said here I believe in the WNBA thread that I believe the NBA investment in the sport monetarily is a rounding error to them. I have never had an issue with the NBA keeping the league afloat and I think that’s been great that they do it. I want girls to be able to see women playing the game at a high level and to perhaps have someone they will look up to. Clark fits that bill as the first real generational talent that is bringing fans to the arena and more people tuning in and watching the games when they are streamed or on cable. I hope that Juju comes back 100 percent healthy because she is part of a select group that can ball and make it look easy. Bueckers is one this year that can also get it. I believe Collier organized that Unrivaled league. She is clearly killing it so far this season. The WNBA should pounce on promoting her. I am not optimistic that they will, but they should
 

I think that all of the players in the WNBA should be thankful for the uptick in attention paid to the sport instead of some of the ridiculous things said because of the color of Clark’s skin. She plays the game in a way that the rest of the league doesn’t. It’s fun to watch. Find other players who fit the bill and promote the heck out of them and grow the sport here and abroad. I guess the best phrase to use is strike while the iron is hot.

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1 hour ago, A-Tex Devil said:

But there is this just this weird undertone, je ne sais quoi, from those complaining about it that goes beyond that. It’s like the online horde complaining about the all women Ghostbusters cast.  Closest thing I can think of to it, in any event. 

you’re probably just feeling uncomfortable because we’re in here treating women the same way we treat men, and people aren’t used to that. there’s also this undertone overtly aggressive belief in our current culture that anyone who says anything critical about a woman (or a black person, or a religious person, or any marginalized group of person who is different from them) must automatically hate that entire group. like only a misogynist could be this critical of these women who’ve been given a league only to spit at the people who gave it to them.

in reality it not complicated, and it’s no mystery- the product on the court sucks and the general attitude and personalities of the league and its players suck too. it’s very very unappealing to most people.   &nbs 

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20 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

I have said here I believe in the WNBA thread that I believe the NBA investment in the sport monetarily is a rounding error to them. I have never had an issue with the NBA keeping the league afloat and I think that’s been great that they do it. I want girls to be able to see women playing the game at a high level and to perhaps have someone they will look up to. Clark fits that bill as the first real generational talent that is bringing fans to the arena and more people tuning in and watching the games when they are streamed or on cable. I hope that Juju comes back 100 percent healthy because she is part of a select group that can ball and make it look easy. Bueckers is one this year that can also get it. I believe Collier organized that Unrivaled league. She is clearly killing it so far this season. The WNBA should pounce on promoting her. I am not optimistic that they will, but they should
 

I think that all of the players in the WNBA should be thankful for the uptick in attention paid to the sport instead of some of the ridiculous things said because of the color of Clark’s skin. She plays the game in a way that the rest of the league doesn’t. It’s fun to watch. Find other players who fit the bill and promote the heck out of them and grow the sport here and abroad. I guess the best phrase to use is strike while the iron is hot.

it’s so tone deaf and ironic that SAD (perfect acronym, way to go SarkAfterDark) thinks we hate women, when in reality the literal reason that all of us are in here shitting on people like angel reese and chennedy carter is because of their repeated and undeserved attacks on a woman. 

we, basketball fans, saw the first female player who reminded us of steph curry, and with lots of promotion from ESPN we got to watch her, know her, and root for her. it was new, it was fun, it was exciting, and best of all, as soon as she finished college she got to immediately start playing in the pros. 

only guess what? the pros didn’t want her. the pros either didn’t respect her, didn’t want to see her succeed, or downright despised her. right out the gate diana turasi talked shit about CC on her podcast; angel reese called her out; chennedy carter (not even in the league anymore) cheap shotted her from behind; all kinds of teams, *especially* angel reese’s team, physically and verbally went after her; when that was happening, her own teammates ignored it, did not stick up for her, and did not retaliate; she not only was left off team usa, but the team usa coach talked shit a out her. meanwhile, CC just kept her mouth shut and, after a short adjustment period, rapidly ascended to the top of the league where she remains as its best player today.

we didn’t all just show up here one day like, “man fuck women! i hate women! they shouldn’t have rights! i’m so mad that the wnba exists!!!”. we got introduced to a demigod in sneakers who made us want to tune in and watch, and the moment she got to the pros the entire league set out to bully her, to trash her, to diminish her, and we didn’t like it. amd now that the league has our attention, the more attention we pay, the more these women have shown themselves to be embarrassing athletes and terrible people. so instead of talking about that sweet chest pass, or pretending like the world’s slowest fast break which ends with a 4-on-1 layup that hits the bottom of the rim and then gooses out of bounds off a girl’s knee *wasn’t* objectively terrible play, we’re in here talking about the still-shockingly cold reception that the best women’s basketball player of this century has gotten from a league full of wonderful people like brittany griner, chennedy carter, and angel reese. we don’t hate women; we hate shitty people.

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it’s kinda like CC is VY, and the wnba is jeff fisher.

no; CC is VY, angel reese is jeff fisher, and the wnba is a league full of six-man hs football teams from the valley who won’t stop complaining that their games are never on Monday Night Football.

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6 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Like I said. This thread is weird.  Clark is definitely getting  undeserved shit from the vets and others that she will eventually just have play herself out of, and she will because she’s just that good.  It sucks that she has to deal with it but she isn’t the first. 
 

But there is this just this weird undertone, je ne sais quoi, from those complaining about it that goes beyond that. It’s like the online horde complaining about the all women Ghostbusters cast.  Closest thing I can think of to it, in any event. 

I’m trying to process this. People here are surprised that several women are acting super catty towards a new woman in their workplace that is better than them at everything they do? Have y’all never been around a group of women? Or at least watched Mean Girls? 
 

The new social pecking order is being set, and it will be ugly until it is firmly established 

 

As far as the actual basketball, I have to say I’m not and probably won’t ever be a regular consumer of the WNBA, but I watched some of the NY Indiana and Chi Indiana games. Clark’s ball handling and passing are next level, but the other teams’ players weren’t all chopped liver. I would imagine the elite players on the other teams will step up their games as well because that’s what elite players do. Iron sharpening iron and all that. Time will tell. 
 

also looked at getting some tix to the fever wings game to take my daughters to. Nosebleeds in the corner over 200 each 😳

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9 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Like I said. This thread is weird.  Clark is definitely getting  undeserved shit from the vets and others that she will eventually just have play herself out of, and she will because she’s just that good.  It sucks that she has to deal with it but she isn’t the first. 
 

But there is this just this weird undertone, je ne sais quoi, from those complaining about it that goes beyond that. It’s like the online horde complaining about the all women Ghostbusters cast.  Closest thing I can think of to it, in any event. 

It isn't the fact that they are women that is the problem at all.  Other sports I don't watch:
soccer
F1
NASCAR
MMA
NBA
PGA
Pro Tennis

the dynamic is that Caitlin Clark has had an incredible influence on the financial results of this particular league in a given year and a half.  It is a  league that would not survive financially without the NBA... and somehow, some of the other players are resistant to accept that impact or threatened by her presence.  It is laughably insane.

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I doubt this is a novel idea, but the Clark hate from wnba players could be because they are the best in the world at their sport and she is showing everyone, by comparison, how non-elite their play really is. Just like if you were to let a g league guy play in the WNBA. 
 

and that affects the perception and credibility of the league, and the marketability of the league and the players. 
 

Because my question is why don’t most of the wnba players have the skill that Clark has, and why does a player like angel reese get the attention she gets?  

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Ok. I’ll consider that maybe it’s me that’s more uncomfortable that you guys are shitting on women players the same way you shit on men’s players.  It should be equal opportunity, I guess.  I’ll think about that and how it may be me applying a double standard.  (Contrition on surly, holy shit!). I also don’t shit on male players and teams and leagues as much many on this site do (other than a brief dalliance being anti-Case a dozen years ago), so perhaps it’s my sunny disposition.    

My view is it will all work itself out as CC blows by the league, then her and Brueckers and eventually Juju, if she fully recovers from that injury, just leap past everyone with Aja and Collier and a couple of others.  And given that, maybe I am just perplexed by the high levels of anger from people who claim not to be consumers of the product   

And even if one thinks it’s a shit product, it’s one that is hugely important to people like my daughter and her friends.  The level of play is less important than the fact that it is possible when it wasn’t 30 years ago, regardless of how it’s being financed. And even better if CC and some others can drag the league up to a higher standard.  

So to bring it full circle to it being a CC thread (although last page seemed like an Angel Reese thread), enjoy the brilliance and know that it will eventually win the day.  

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10 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Ok. I’ll consider that maybe it’s me that’s more uncomfortable that you guys are shitting on women players the same way you shit on men’s players.  It should be equal opportunity, I guess.  I’ll think about that and how it may be me applying a double standard.  (Contrition on surly, holy shit!). I also don’t shit on male players and teams and leagues as much many on this site do (other than a brief dalliance being anti-Case a dozen years ago), so perhaps it’s my sunny disposition.    

My view is it will all work itself out as CC blows by the league, then her and Brueckers and eventually Juju, if she fully recovers from that injury, just leap past everyone with Aja and Collier and a couple of others.  And given that, maybe I am just perplexed by the high levels of anger from people who claim not to be consumers of the product   

And even if one thinks it’s a shit product, it’s one that is hugely important to people like my daughter and her friends.  The level of play is less important than the fact that it is possible when it wasn’t 30 years ago, regardless of how it’s being financed. And even better if CC and some others can drag the league up to a higher standard.  

So to bring it full circle to it being a CC thread (although last page seemed like an Angel Reese thread), enjoy the brilliance and know that it will eventually win the day.  

But you’re ok with these women racists shitting on Caitlin 

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6 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

But you’re ok with these women racists shitting on Caitlin 

I guess I don’t care. They don’t matter.  And she  doesn’t seem to either.  She’s laughing all the way to the bank.  
 

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8 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

I guess I don’t care. They don’t matter.  And she  doesn’t seem to either.  She’s laughing all the way to the bank.  
 

So random posters making fun of racists triggers you more than racists.   Caitlin is doing great financially but she’s also the ecosystem.  We wouldn’t know who Angie Reese is if it weren’t for Caitlin Clark.  Angie has played this well

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35 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

So random posters making fun of racists triggers you more than racists.   Caitlin is doing great financially but she’s also the ecosystem.  We wouldn’t know who Angie Reese is if it weren’t for Caitlin Clark.  Angie has played this well

The vibe of this thread weirded me out.  It was more than “making fun of” and went beyond the Reese’s and Griners of the world, who I just think are just at a certain stage of grief with the future of their careers, influence and relevance.   Ignoring them is my go-to   

Derka, to his credit, may have identified why it weirded me out.  I’ll think about that.  The product itself also doesn’t bother me that much.  It’s always been choppy but it’s going to get better because of CC, Aja, Juju and others.  

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Angel Reese is just hella unlikeable and came off as a bully when she was on top and winning. Once shit went south for her or she lost she tried flip the script and make herself a victim. People just don’t like her for that reason and she’s being pushed in this by the same prople shitting on Clark for her skin color. So fuck Angel Reese.

 

As far as the W goes on the court, they definitely played Clark different with the full court press and how they tried to physically impose her to try and get her to conform to them. Watch Paige play this year and she doesn’t get near the same physical treatment or full court press because she came in already catering to the community. 

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1 hour ago, Blotto said:

https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/45331428/fever-caitlin-clark-least-2-weeks-quad-strain

At least two weeks, which I assume would be 3 or 4 games. Will be interesting to see the tv ratings for those games vs the first 4 Fever games.

I think you know what they’ll look like. She plays I am watching. She’s out I’m not. I would imagine it’s the same for plenty of other folks. To be fair I do not watch every game because there isn’t time for that and the games here come on earlier in the day due to the time difference. Harder to follow, but not impossible.

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5 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Couple of talking heads:

 

Caitlin Clark is a mix of Jason Kidd and Steph curry.  
 

this isn’t Magic vs Bird. It’s Jordan vs Rick Mahorn

  Fixed it as Laimbeer could shoot and play out on the floor away from the basket.  

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there is no nba equivalent of angel reese. no one as bad as angel reese has ever played in the nba. it’s michael jordan vs matt hill.

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27 minutes ago, Derka said:

there is no nba equivalent of angel reese. no one as bad as angel reese has ever played in the nba. it’s michael jordan vs matt hill.

Who was the Spur player that fans would call out for being such a stiff and later destroyed some guys in a situation similar to Joes vs Pros?

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55 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

Who was the Spur player that fans would call out for being such a stiff and later destroyed some guys in a situation similar to Joes vs Pros?

Matt Bonner I think. 

But iirc he led the league in 3P% one season.

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5 hours ago, Derka said:

there is no nba equivalent of angel reese. no one as bad as angel reese has ever played in the nba. it’s michael jordan vs matt hill.

To be fair, she shoots about as well as Dennis Rodman

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7 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

To be fair, she shoots about as well as Dennis Rodman

Fair to whom?  Dennis was a career 52% shooter who at 6'7" primarily went against bigger players.  

 

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On 5/24/2025 at 9:41 PM, Derka said:

it’s so tone deaf and ironic that SAD (perfect acronym, way to go SarkAfterDark) thinks we hate women, when in reality the literal reason that all of us are in here shitting on people like angel reese and chennedy carter is because of their repeated and undeserved attacks on a woman. 

we, basketball fans, saw the first female player who reminded us of steph curry, and with lots of promotion from ESPN we got to watch her, know her, and root for her. it was new, it was fun, it was exciting, and best of all, as soon as she finished college she got to immediately start playing in the pros. 

only guess what? the pros didn’t want her. the pros either didn’t respect her, didn’t want to see her succeed, or downright despised her. right out the gate diana turasi talked shit about CC on her podcast; angel reese called her out; chennedy carter (not even in the league anymore) cheap shotted her from behind; all kinds of teams, *especially* angel reese’s team, physically and verbally went after her; when that was happening, her own teammates ignored it, did not stick up for her, and did not retaliate; she not only was left off team usa, but the team usa coach talked shit a out her. meanwhile, CC just kept her mouth shut and, after a short adjustment period, rapidly ascended to the top of the league where she remains as its best player today.

we didn’t all just show up here one day like, “man fuck women! i hate women! they shouldn’t have rights! i’m so mad that the wnba exists!!!”. we got introduced to a demigod in sneakers who made us want to tune in and watch, and the moment she got to the pros the entire league set out to bully her, to trash her, to diminish her, and we didn’t like it. amd now that the league has our attention, the more attention we pay, the more these women have shown themselves to be embarrassing athletes and terrible people. so instead of talking about that sweet chest pass, or pretending like the world’s slowest fast break which ends with a 4-on-1 layup that hits the bottom of the rim and then gooses out of bounds off a girl’s knee *wasn’t* objectively terrible play, we’re in here talking about the still-shockingly cold reception that the best women’s basketball player of this century has gotten from a league full of wonderful people like brittany griner, chennedy carter, and angel reese. we don’t hate women; we hate shitty people.

Thank you for this post Derka. I think the amount of vitriol directed at her is just ridiculous. I feel like you are someone that has been a supporter of women’s sports and just women in general. This is all so dumb. These women in the WNBA who have treated her like garbage deserve to be catapulted into the sun. The amount of entitlement is really stunning to behold. 
 

I do think that Griner was talking about Clark in that clip. She has got to be the Queen of Garbage Mountain. A president brings you back for the stupid decision you made to go to Russia to make more money. So she is brought back in exchange for someone responsible for the deaths of thousands and thousands of people because she’s an American and we value American lives. 
 

The irony is Clark is making it possible for players to not have to make stupid decisions and that the door is being opened to a whole lot more money for WNBA players eventually. To Griner and others though Clark is a you know what. So much dumb in a league I would like to see grow and succeed. 
 

One last story I have is today at work a woman that I talk about basketball with is a fan of Clark like myself. She played ball so she understands the game. She comes up to me and talks about Clark’s injury and says “Looks like I’m not watching any games for two weeks.”

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On 5/24/2025 at 3:02 PM, PittsburghTiger said:

Seems like Ms. Griner is in a bit of a situation after having fouled out against Indiana the other night.

She looks to have been caught, on the bench, calling Clark “trash” and “fucking white girl”.

We’ll see what, if anything, becomes of this.

I didn't even see it so of course it didn't go viral or anything. Not surprising honestly.

On 5/24/2025 at 3:33 PM, Derka said:

 

im not 100% certain that’s what she said, but it does look like that’s what she said.

Yep...maybe she didn't' say it, but looks like it.  This is the first I'm seeing it and I'm on social media a ton...so it didn't quite get the traction of other incidents.

On 5/24/2025 at 8:10 PM, Derka said:

i’ve seen her on podcasts complaining about men sexualizing her online. i just don’t get it. 

They all do it.  It's just typical now.  They want to look as pretty and sexy as possible, and instead of understand that yes...some men/women ARE creeps, they want to tell EVERYONE that they're wrong for sexualizing the hot girl in revealing clothes.

On 5/24/2025 at 11:33 PM, SarkAfterDark said:

If someone asked me who represented the best of woman’s basketball, none of those names would be on my list. But you have a hard time understanding how narrow your view is, which is probably intentional so you can continue to spew your bullshit about the sport. And the league has grown to a point where breaking off from the NBA would probably be more beneficial. But again the tone of your post continue to display how you feel about women. They should just stay in their place and not talk back. Anything you can accuse these women of men have done in their sports x10.

This a really really really stupid post and you should feel bad.

On 5/25/2025 at 12:58 AM, A-Tex Devil said:

Like I said. This thread is weird.  Clark is definitely getting  undeserved shit from the vets and others that she will eventually just have play herself out of, and she will because she’s just that good.  It sucks that she has to deal with it but she isn’t the first. 
 

But there is this just this weird undertone, je ne sais quoi, from those complaining about it that goes beyond that. It’s like the online horde complaining about the all women Ghostbusters cast.  Closest thing I can think of to it, in any event. 

Wait this is even dumber.  You should feel worse.

20 hours ago, Derka said:

there is no nba equivalent of angel reese. no one as bad as angel reese has ever played in the nba. it’s michael jordan vs matt hill.

Okay let's stop this here.  She is NOT even close to a top 50 player in the WNBA. But she' is a player. her rebounding and defense alone makes her a solid role player.

The problem, as I keep pointing out, is that for some stupid reason she still thinks SHE is the star of that team. The focal point of the offense.

There is no world in which she should be leading that team in FG attempts.  Not an any game. I don't care how many rebounds and putbacks there are.

And no, not ALL her rebounds are off her own misses...even taking those into account she'd still be leading the league in Rebounds.

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It makes sense if you think about it from the auspices of the WNBA writ large:

Caitlin Clark is a single point of failure in the sense that Caitlin Clark has, by almost every analysis and estimation conducted, single-handedly grown the WNBA. In whatever metric you want to look at (e.g. eyeballs, ad spend, revenue, attendance, viewership, sponsorships, household name/normalization, non-fringe zeitgeist). She is akin to the celebrity CEO of a company who, if he/she gets hit buy a bus, the stock would tank 40% overnight.

So the WNBA needs to diversify and hedge against the single point of failure (aka Caitlin Clark being catastrophically injured, leaving for a Saudi basketball team, or getting caught doing something morally egregious at a massage parlor) even if these things are wildly far-feteched and unlikely. You use the good times to plan for the worst case scenario and start putting contingency strategies into place for when/if they are needed.

100% the ex-Deloitte partner who runs the WNBA gets this and is thinking about this strategically.

The problem is that it takes time to build off the Caitlin Clark catalyst to create an ecosystem of mini-Caitlin Clarks (and eventually, the "next" Caitlin Clark). The existing "legacy" WNBA'ers are bemoaning that they are chopped liver (except for the aforementioned exceptions over the last couple of pages and which @SarkAfterDark name checked previously) and instead of taking the hard swallow of (mostly) reality, are over-indexing on having a grudge on the white girl taking the women's basketball world by storm. And, to be fair, there is probably SOME truth to the idea that being mostly black and queer was not doing them any favors when trying to be the Patrick Mahomes of WNBA (complete with State Farm ads every 7 minutes) versus the straight white girl. This is America, after all (cue Donald Glover meme)....

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This is the 2nd Jemele Hill content I've seen this week. Which is unfortunate. I was hoping she'd fallen down a mineshaft somewhere or died in a watersports accident. 

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43 minutes ago, ztejas said:

This is the 2nd Jemele Hill content I've seen this week. Which is unfortunate. I was hoping she'd fallen down a mineshaft somewhere or died in a watersports accident. 

I will post a jemele hill video after each of your drunken posts

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8 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

I will post a jemele hill video after each of your drunken posts

I think you'd lose the board pretty quickly. 

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On 5/26/2025 at 7:18 PM, PGFrog said:

Fair to whom?  Dennis was a career 52% shooter who at 6'7" primarily went against bigger players.  

 

"Shooter" is being pretty liberal.  A lot of those were put backs and tap ins.  

Clearly you never saw him shoot a mid range jumper.  Teams didn't even bother covering him outside the box.

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On 5/23/2025 at 12:56 PM, Derka said:

something else i’ve noticed about the most overly/undeservedly privileged league in the world is that the announcers are never critical of the players or the play on the court. you watch nba broadcasts and there isn’t a single game where bone headed plays, lazy defense, or too much three point shooting doesn’t get criticized. then you watch angel reese miss five bunnies in 15 seconds without even considering kicking the ball out to someone who’s actually talented, and the announcers are all, “Angel Reese will not give up!! Heart of a champion!!!” regardless of what they say, they do not have any desire to be treated equally to the men. they just want more money and attention.

 

“flippin’ it up!”

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btw that second miss is even worse than the first. i can’t even explain how she ended up shooting the ball from where she shot it from. she’s such a spaz.

 

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4 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

I don’t get it. 

centel posts something that’s BS, wnba fans, not being familiar with centel, fall for it and get upset by the tens of thousands. earlier this week they made a post about two players getting fined $10 apiece for gossiping on the court and people fell for it.

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On Rodman's career, he average 3.0 shots per game.  The 3 seasons in Chicago were 2.3, 2.3, and 1.9 respectively. During that same stretch, the Worm averaged 5.6, 5.8, and 5.3 offensive rebounds for the season, so more than half of his offensive boards resulted from teammates' shots..

 

For Reese's career she has averaged 12.1 shots per games and 5.2 offensive rebounds.

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17 hours ago, ztejas said:

This is the 2nd Jemele Hill content I've seen this week. Which is unfortunate. I was hoping she'd fallen down a mineshaft somewhere or died in a watersports accident. 

Please don't use Jemele Hill and watersports in the same sentence again.

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2 hours ago, Iceman said:

On Rodman's career, he average 3.0 shots per game.  The 3 seasons in Chicago were 2.3, 2.3, and 1.9 respectively. During that same stretch, the Worm averaged 5.6, 5.8, and 5.3 offensive rebounds for the season, so more than half of his offensive boards resulted from teammates' shots..

 

For Reese's career she has averaged 12.1 shots per games and 5.2 offensive rebounds.

Dennis knew what he needed to do to stay in the league and help his team win. 

Basketball reference actually provides different numbers that you site, but regardless he was never the first, second, third, or fourth option. 

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rodmade01.html

I suspect he also never went 0-fer and it wasn't until he was in his 14th year in the NBA at 37 that he shot less than .400 from the field and all those tip ins and follow ups weren't uncontested dunks and open lay ups.  He was going up against biggest guys who actually could get off the floor.

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4 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

Dennis knew what he needed to do to stay in the league and help his team win. 

Basketball reference actually provides different numbers that you site, but regardless he was never the first, second, third, or fourth option. 

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rodmade01.html

I suspect he also never went 0-fer and it wasn't until he was in his 14th year in the NBA at 37 that he shot less than .400 from the field and all those tip ins and follow ups weren't uncontested dunks and open lay ups.  He was going up against biggest guys who actually could get off the floor.

Kind of crazy he finished in top 15 in MVP voting 4 times

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4 hours ago, Iceman said:

On Rodman's career, he average 3.0 shots per game.  The 3 seasons in Chicago were 2.3, 2.3, and 1.9 respectively. During that same stretch, the Worm averaged 5.6, 5.8, and 5.3 offensive rebounds for the season, so more than half of his offensive boards resulted from teammates' shots..

 

For Reese's career she has averaged 12.1 shots per games and 5.2 offensive rebounds.

EXACTLY!

She may not be the force Rodman was, but she's in the same vein and could have a long and productive career if she falls into that role.

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