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If I had a nickel for every person who gave a shit about being in your kitchen I might have enough to buy a 4-pack of chiclets sitting next to the register at a Mexican joint

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  • Huckleberry
    Huckleberry

    No it doesn't, this is absurd selfishness on a grand scale. Nobody is getting punished. My wife and I paid off our student loans, and you know what I think about younger people or even those in our ge

  • henrygandorf
    henrygandorf

    i’ve really enjoyed the 900 posts from bt explaining how bernie people aren’t aggressive, obsessive, and very-online.  truly a learning experience. 

  • Bill Clinton
    Bill Clinton

    3rd or 4th thread but whos counting.  Name recognition and ability to collect money is most important to the Democratic Party. They aren't trying to win 2020, they are trying to rebuild and colle

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I am still wildly unclear about why it's bad when somebody fundraises using techniques other than $10 donations from millions of people?  The list of people who did it that way is not anyone I'd want to have in my kitchen.  

Ideological Progressive maximalists love loser talk, because they love to lose.
2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:


Ideological Progressive maximalists love loser talk, because they love to lose.

Noted ideological progressive maximalist, Hillary Clinton

Noted ideological progressive maximalist, Hillary Clinton

Unprincipled recidivist losers love loser talk too. Y’all should get together.

Off topic but I’m looking for a good place to find a naked hamburger.

3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Unprincipled recidivist losers love loser talk too. Y’all should get together.

Who likes to win? right-leaning centrists?

49 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Beto has changed his website.

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None of us know any of the details but I figure it’s going to have a big presence in Texas, so y’all go sign up to help.

www.betoorouke.com

What would he know about winning elections?

I kid, I kid. Sort of.

Y'all will be assembling Voltron so be ready

What would he know about winning elections?
I kid, I kid. Sort of.


Ask all the suburbs he turned blue in Texas in 2018.
Who likes to win? right-leaning centrists?

People who understand that ideology is the privilege of winners.
4 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

 


Ask all the suburbs he turned blue in Texas in 2018.

Those were turning blue with or without him, state migration. The amount of fucking people flowing into this state on a monthly basis is insane.

I don’t think Bernie is typically great in these settings, but that was a strong performance. I think he has a better handle now on what type of bullshit to expect from the moderators. 



Ask all the suburbs he turned blue in Texas in 2018.

Or the state that didn’t. A loss is never a signature win.

Texas isn't going blue anymore than California is going red for the 2020 Presidential Election. Your job is to have our back and watch us implement some of your great progressive ideas, while we pray for you. Hold the rope.

We need a little more Ann Richards/Jim Hightower from Texas. Ann would have pushed Kerry over the line. But he chose John f'ing Edwards - a carnival barker pushed on him by the Centrists. Texas Democrats are best when they are progressive populists in the national spotlight. Anything else is awfully overproduced and plastic.

Woooo. That’s some anger coming out right there.


Pete made a very good point about Warren being full of shit about not taking money from billionaire donors.  She took money from 35 billionaires in her 2018 senate campaign and is using that money in her presidential campaign.  She also has not pledged to refrain from raising money from rich donors during the general if she were to win the nomination.  She's a fucking fraud.  

Pete is...not the most pleasant person to watch or listen to, but his campaign is very disciplined about this kind of stuff.  

Yes, the old lady that causes billionaires to cry on television about being taxed and has taken 100,000 free photos with average folks in less than a year is a complete fraud.

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yes, the old lady that causes billionaires to cry on television about being taxed and has taken 100,000 free photos with average folks in less than a year is a complete fraud.

Yeah, the selfie thing is surely meaningful and something a reasonable person would use to gauge how a candidate would potentially govern.  Meanwhile:

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“I think Senator Warren’s views are more pragmatic; I think she is very different in a conversation than when she’s on the stump,” said Robert Wolf, the former UBS executive who hosted Ms. Warren and other Senate Democrats for a fund-raiser on Martha’s Vineyard this summer.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/us/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-democrats-presidential-election.html

Remember when Liz! said she supported M4A, only to walk back her support in favor of a healthcare plan similar to Mayor Pete's and Biden's? lol.  

32 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Woooo. That’s some anger coming out right there.

Midwesterners are a furious people

11 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

 


Ask all the suburbs he turned blue in Texas in 2018.

 

I live in Texas. Ted Cruz is my senator because Beto could not win.

Moral victories are for aggy.

23 hours ago, Js1 said:

Yang is behind Michael fucking Bloomberg and tied with Klobs in The Economist average of averages. 

I read this as Kodos.

12 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Off topic but I’m looking for a good place to find a naked hamburger.

 
bar inside Trump Miami

CHAMPIONS BAR & GRILL

 

Biden's pitch for working together and doing pragmatism makes vague sense because people like Joe in DC.

Pete? It looked like everyone on the stage hates him.

18 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Biden's pitch for working together and doing pragmatism makes vague sense because people like Joe in DC.

Pete? It looked like everyone on the stage hates him.

as biden won the nomination in a landslide, warren, bernie, and castro all held hands and looked at each other and said, "well, at least we went hard after pete" as their supporters exchanged high-fives. 

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

as biden won the nomination in a landslide, warren, bernie, and castro all held hands and looked at each other and said, "well, at least we went hard after pete" as their supporters exchanged high-fives. 

This but unironically. 

Liz isn't a fraud. she's just slightly hypocritical in finding something to attack her opponents about. but that's the game and they all play it. except maybe St. Bernie lol.

regardless, she's great,  Pete's great, Yang's great, hell even Joe's great versus the disgusting blob passing for human currently in the WH.

fuck it, let's get it on, i'm ready

Did anyone ask the senators on stage last night how they plan to get their colleagues on the other side of the aisle to vote for their legislation?

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1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Did anyone ask the senators on stage last night how they plan to get their colleagues on the other side of the aisle to vote for their legislation?

Follow up, did anyone ask them how they plan on paying for all this? 

3 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Did anyone ask the senators on stage last night how they plan to get their colleagues on the other side of the aisle to vote for their legislation?

You don't need any of those losers.

 

1 hour ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Follow up, did anyone ask them how they plan on paying for all this? 

I'm gonna guess taxation!

4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT LETS GO

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You just gave me a heart attack. Fuck you, not cool. 

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Pete's base is white. White people like Trump.

 

The Warren at 10% (and only two below Pete) is shocking to me 

i'm not typically a neg-rep guy, but i thought about it.

Great to hear from the centrist white suburbans.

A retort from elsewhere:

The Obama presidency was a disaster for middle-class wealth in the United States. Between 2007 and 2016, the average wealth of the bottom 99 percent dropped by $4,500. Over the same period, the average wealth of the top 1 percent rose by $4.9 million.

This drop hit the housing wealth of African Americans particularly hard. Outside of home equity, black wealth recovered its 2007 level by 2016. But average black home equity was still $16,700 lower.

Much of this decline, we will argue, can be laid at the feet of President Obama. His housing policies led directly to millions of families losing their homes. What’s more, Obama had the power — money, legislative tools, and legal leverage — to sharply ameliorate the foreclosure crisis.

He chose not to use it.

https://jacobinmag.com/2017/12/obama-foreclosure-crisis-wealth-inequality

 

Edited by washparkhorn

Lolz, Jacobin.

Washpark, you still caping for tax cuts or are you playing at collectivist populism again?

1 hour ago, washparkhorn said:

Great to hear from the centrist white suburbans.

A retort from elsewhere:

Are you serious with this dumbass shit? Obama caused the housing crises in 2007? 

 

 

1 hour ago, washparkhorn said:

Great to hear from the centrist white suburbans.

A retort from elsewhere:

 

 

Messed up my previous post. This is some serious dumbass shit you’re posting here. 

35 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Messed up my previous post. This is some serious dumbass shit you’re posting here. 

Did you read the article?  Just curious why black families lost wealth under Obama.

$29 Trillion for Wall Street.

Between 2007 and 2016, the average wealth of the bottom 99 percent dropped by $4,500.

Over the same period, the average wealth of the top 1 percent rose by $4.9 million.

This drop hit the housing wealth of African Americans particularly hard. Outside of home equity, black wealth recovered its 2007 level by 2016.

But average black home equity was still $16,700 lower.

Much of this decline, we will argue, can be laid at the feet of President Obama. His housing policies led directly to millions of families losing their homes.

What’s more, Obama had the power — money, legislative tools, and legal leverage — to sharply ameliorate the foreclosure crisis.

He chose not to use it.

Why?

3 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Did you read the article?  Just curious why black families lost wealth under Obama.

Yes. I get it. You’re just “asking questions.” 

Black families, along with everyone else in the middle class, lost a shit ton of wealth due to republican disastrous policies that began with Reagan, culminated with Bush 2, came to a head in 2007 well before tan suit became president, and are being exacerbated to this day by president shitstain. 

Are you somehow ignorant to this fact or do we need to answer more of your stupid ass questions for you? 

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