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Arch tanked his own pre-season betting odds on winning the Heisman so you can all get in with a better payout.

So thank him when he flies to New York in December.

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12 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:


per Klatt Arch is playing ahead of the offense   Going too fast   Rushing   Needs to slow down

16 minute mark Arch talk

Shorter version on Twitter.    Timing off, rushing and overstriding. 

Sure seems like PTSD -- Arch sure hasn't been himself since getting hit (maybe concussion) against Georgia in 2024 SEC Championship game.

Weird idea,  but maybe go shoot some free throws to slow your thoughts down -- motor memory seems way off.  Definitely more VR sessions if Texas has the technology to give Arch more reps.   I also like the idea of only having a couple progressions on plays, then either throw the ball away or tuck it and run.

Sure hope Arch might just need some live action game success to snap back to the good form he had in 2024.  

 

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2 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

I also like the idea of only having a couple progressions on plays, then either throw the ball away or tuck it and run.

What Klatt is saying makes the most sense of anything I have heard so far. To get his confidence back, he should be encouraged to take advantage of wide open off-schedule running opportunities. Multiple times, he has ignored wide open running lanes to try to complete a throw. Screw that. Tuck it & go.  Get the crowd and the team pumped up. 

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On 9/17/2025 at 4:13 AM, Irish Wrist Watch said:

You make a good point. I'll tell you another thing Sark does. We get 4th and three or five at midfield and Sark insists on going for it. Note to coach, you've got the best D in the country, do what just about every other team in America does and punt it, pin the other team inside their ten and your offense gets it back around midfield - as opposed to turning the ball over at mid-field, stopping them and getting it back inside your own ten. That's a tried and true strategy. He's got an offense firing on three cylinders and he's asking them to drive the ball eighty yards for a TD.

You're assuming that from the opponent's 40-45 we actually punt and pin them at the 10 most of these times instead of giving up a touchback. So for a 50/50 of continuing a scoring drive and advancing into scoring position you have a decent chance of putting them back...15-20 yards?

Going for it is the right call. This isn't 1980

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Texas still plays a bend but don’t break defense with one of the best defenses in the country. They currently suck on offense. Putting and making the other team drive the ball as far as possible to get points is the right call, regardless of what analytics says.

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51 minutes ago, TheFlyingBoat said:

You're assuming that from the opponent's 40-45 we actually punt and pin them at the 10 most of these times instead of giving up a touchback. So for a 50/50 of continuing a scoring drive and advancing into scoring position you have a decent chance of putting them back...15-20 yards?

Going for it is the right call. This isn't 1980

I am normally in the Go for it camp, but this is a different situation. Offense is 28% on 3rd downs and 41% on 4th downs, so they have been bad in critical situations.  Punter has been good. The defense has been excellent. You have to factor these things in. That and punt into the endzone comes out to the 20, so it is 20-25 yards. Give up the ball on the 40-45 yard line and you are 1 decent offensive play away from giving up pts. The defense gives up at least 10 yards on a drive 58% of the time this year. Even if the defense forces a 3 and out, you are flipping the field position game. Giving the ball to an offense that has 15% busted drive rate (0 or less yards) inside the 20. The situational book is calculated based on average offenses, that is not pertinent to Texas. If the offense improved, I would leave the dark side and jump back on the "go for it" train. I just do not see it right now.

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Holy shit there is that weird throwing motion on crossing routes that we all have been bitching about and he is under no pressure. Every tape I ever bought my son on QB mechanics said your toe had to be in the direction you planned to throw and you had to step into the throw. His feet are wide open and the throw is all arm without any need.

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He is actually falling back, instead of stepping into the throw and these guys thought this would be good tape to advertise with?

 

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At the end the ball is right on the receiver instead of leading the receiver.

 

They teach the falling back throw with feet wide open, maybe it was not AJ Milwee as I suspected.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Nope said:

This is the kind of stuff Arch thinks he can pull off

 

Yes but Stafford is moving forward and not falling back. I guess now that we have seen this throwing motion being part of what he was shown to do we can see if it is showing up in games and what is the result.

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What the fuck is that fall away drill.  It makes so much sense now watching him the last few weeks.  He is doing that a lot and it may work in one on ones but in game situations, it's a terrible way to throw.

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11 minutes ago, Nope said:

This is the kind of stuff Arch thinks he can pull off

 

I had a coach who used to say that you need to master the fundamentals, so you know when you can break them. I feel like this is lost with a lot of younger QBs. They are working on all these screwed up arm angles and off platform throws and forgetting about how to make consistently accurate fundamental throws. 

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16 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I had a coach who used to say that you need to master the fundamentals, so you know when you can break them. I feel like this is lost with a lot of younger QBs. They are working on all these screwed up arm angles and off platform throws and forgetting about how to make consistently accurate fundamental throws. 

Patrick Mahomes Syndrome

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2 hours ago, Josef Pwag said:

What Klatt is saying makes the most sense of anything I have heard so far. To get his confidence back, he should be encouraged to take advantage of wide open off-schedule running opportunities. Multiple times, he has ignored wide open running lanes to try to complete a throw. Screw that. Tuck it & go.  Get the crowd and the team pumped up. 

Right or wrong, Sark really discourages this. I just don't see it happening. 

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6 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Right or wrong, Sark really discourages this. I just don't see it happening. 

That reminds me Sark said he does not want to play "athlete football" in his presser. That was a WTF moment for me. Texas has better athletes than 75-80% of their opponents, why the hell would you not want to press that advantage

 
 
 
 
 
 
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3 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

That reminds me Sark said he does not want to play "athlete football" in his presser. I was like "wtf, you out-athlete 75% of the schedule" 

Sark wants to prove how much smarter he is than errbody.  It's the execution, not his play-calling.

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9 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

That reminds me Sark said he does not want to play "athlete football" in his presser. That was a WTF moment for me. Texas has better athletes than 75-80% of their opponents, why the hell would you not want to press that advantage

 
 
 
 
 

I didn't see the question or context, but it makes sense to me if he is saying just because we can out athlete UTEP or Sam Houston, doesn't mean we should and ignore execution.  What happens when you play a team with equivalent athletes?  A team with equivalent athletes that can also execute...sounds a lot like Washington with Penix, Georgia, and Ohio State.

 

Isn't the biggest knock on Sark that he can recruit and develop, but in the big games we seem to be a couple plays behind.

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4 minutes ago, Yesh said:

I didn't see the question or context, but it makes sense to me if he is saying just because we can out athlete UTEP or Sam Houston, doesn't mean we should and ignore execution.  What happens when you play a team with equivalent athletes?  A team with equivalent athletes that can also execute...sounds a lot like Washington with Penix, Georgia, and Ohio State.

 

Isn't the biggest knock on Sark that he can recruit and develop, but in the big games we seem to be a couple plays behind.

Perhaps we’re behind because we’re trying to execute and not just play football? Letting your athletes be athletes doesn’t mean they aren’t executing. Playing robotic makes you play slow and I feel our offense is trying to execute more than play. 

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11 minutes ago, Yesh said:

I didn't see the question or context, but it makes sense to me if he is saying just because we can out athlete UTEP or Sam Houston, doesn't mean we should and ignore execution.  What happens when you play a team with equivalent athletes?  A team with equivalent athletes that can also execute...sounds a lot like Washington with Penix, Georgia, and Ohio State.

 

Isn't the biggest knock on Sark that he can recruit and develop, but in the big games we seem to be a couple plays behind.

It was in reference to Arch using his legs on improvised scrambles and that can get you outside of the scheme. It gave me the impression that Sark is a stickler to scheme. Just my opinion, but right now the offense just needs success anyway they can find it. They look broken right now. IMO restoring confidence is paramount at this time. Little success could get them to loosen up and perhaps not look like they are attending a wake. Scheme is useless if your players have 0 belief. 

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1 hour ago, DanTheHorn said:

Holy shit there is that weird throwing motion on crossing routes that we all have been bitching about and he is under no pressure. Every tape I ever bought my son on QB mechanics said your toe had to be in the direction you planned to throw and you had to step into the throw. His feet are wide open and the throw is all arm without any need.

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He is actually falling back, instead of stepping into the throw and these guys thought this would be good tape to advertise with?

 

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At the end the ball is right on the receiver instead of leading the receiver.

 

They teach the falling back throw with feet wide open, maybe it was not AJ Milwee as I suspected.

 

 

WOW...  That training is a real shitshow  😬

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On 9/16/2025 at 3:11 PM, Gucci_Suit said:

I’m sure that this has been mentioned before. 

But Sark is fucking up the offense in general by going for 4th and 6 bullshit. If you kick the ball go up 10-0 and reset; the end result is likely 17-0 and it’s on. But you over engineer it and frustrate the entire team and then tell them that they are trying to do too much. Because you put them in that situation. 

Take points. Don’t ever go for 4th unless you’re about to lose or you’ve been pushing people around and you’re about to destroy their will. That’s not what we are doing.

Choir, hear my sermon. 

Do we have any engineers on this platform to confirm this m, or is it just a bunch of non-workijg Lawyers? 

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1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

That reminds me Sark said he does not want to play "athlete football" in his presser. That was a WTF moment for me. Texas has better athletes than 75-80% of their opponents, why the hell would you not want to press that advantage

 
 
 
 
 

That's pretty much what I said yesterday responding to you. Sarks stubbornness will get Texas beat again at least once, maybe more.

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