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2 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

I am shocked that Espada ran Hader into the ground.

48 appearances and 52 innings pitched?

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55 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

Also, how many times this year have we pitched Hader and Abreu with a 4 run lead because they have decided that it’s essentially the same as 3 runs?

 

Yeah, that’s Hector Neris territory there. 

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Yup, Dana has been excellent since he got to take decisions on personnel.  He has found some good role players at the bottom of the barrel, and they have been a huge factor in this team being 15 games over .500. Those deadline trades have all been money, and will pay huge dividends come playoff time and next year. Sanchez has 2 years of arbitration left, and Urias has 1, so they aren't half season rentals and will give Dana a ton of flexibility in the offseason. 

If the team can get some more healthy pitchers back, the bullpen will improve greatly. Neris isn't good, but you need some guys to eat innings for now, and they still have another ~45 games to play. I don't think he will be here much longer, as other dudes get promoted, but he's fine for a stopgap. The playoff roster for this team should be stacked and worthy of winning it all.  

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The biggest issue is the appearances he's made in 4 run games.  That's quite a few unescessary innings.  At least stagger Hader and Abreu in those games.  Don't use both of them when it's not needed.  Hader has thrown the most innings among closers this season.

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4 minutes ago, kevwun said:

The biggest issue is the appearances he's made in 4 run games.  That's quite a few unescessary innings.  At least stagger Hader and Abreu in those games.  Don't use both of them when it's not needed.  Hader has thrown the most innings among closers this season.

 

i don't track it, but how many times were runs added after he was up and ready ?

i can remember one game. we have a one game lead, we need every W possible 

hopefully he just needs some rest 

go sign presley 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

surly thread is the manager at that yankees game, hader comes off the field and says he's good for another inning 

whats your move 

I don’t blame Espada for the Yankees game. Hader had an easy 9th and then the 10th inning got away from him with a 10 pitch AB to Goldschmidt and a 7 pitch AB to Stanton. No manager is going to take his closer out of that game.

As said above, the Astros have put a lot of extra innings on Hader and Abreu by pitching them in 4 run games.

Abreu has 12 appearances when the Astros were winning by 4 or more runs. Hader has 6 appearances in those situations as well.

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i'd be curious how many days him and abreu want to go without pitching in a game 

those guys throw daily with the pitching coaches

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He's on pace for 72.2 IP this season, basically the same as last year. I will blame Espada for when he uses Hader but the volume isn't really an issue to me. Doesn't mean he won't need to be used less as he ages but wasn't really that foreseeable when going from age 30 to age 31.

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