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If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend catching the latest South Park episode. They nailed the essence of this douchebag. Impeccable timing, too. 

I thought it was a great episode
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4 hours ago, Hookah Horns said:

If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend catching the latest South Park episode. They nailed the essence of this douchebag. Impeccable timing, too. 

Is the whole series now just making fun of the dotard and this batshit government?  Hilarious if so. They are good on content for the next 3 years minimum. 

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18 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

We've learned that a SCOTUS ruling can be overturned. I don't think there is any reason to believe that a President is immune from a bribery charge. Perhaps not while in office but definitely afterwards. Now perhaps the Supreme Court could say otherwise. Did they specifically say that a ex-President couldn't be held accountable via a criminal prosecution after they leave office?

For core constitutional functions, yes.  The only remedy for presidential criminality is impeachment, which can presumably be followed by prosecution.

Under this scheme then, using pardons as an example of an undoubtedly core constitutional function, POTUS could profit to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars for pardons granted toward the end of a term when there is insufficient time to impeach.

This would have been a much better hypothetical horrible than "Seal Team 6 killing political enemies," that was dismissed as hysterical.

One problem with all this is, outside of Trump, it never comes up or has not in the last 250 years.  

Congress could speed it up by enacting some Presidential crimes, though, and get a more sane Court to oveturn/revise the ruling.

After consideration, all presidential immunity should be presumptive, only, the presumption overcome by balancing the "chilling effect" against other considerations.

 

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15 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Is the whole series now just making fun of the dotard and this batshit government?  Hilarious if so. They are good on content for the next 3 years minimum. 

They've taken parody of Trump and his administration into overdrive.

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5 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

There's a real jurisdictional question in there.  If Hegseth ordered a murder in the Pentagon, is it a crime under Virginia law even if it was carried out elsewhere?

as i understand it, cases on federal property usually go to federal court; however, the feds can choose not to prosecute and refer it to state court as anything that happens within the borders of a state given rise to jurisdiction and venue UNLESS there's a specific federal statute granting exclusive and sole jurisdiction to the feds.  for example, there are times where MP/JAG will decline a case where the crime occurred on Fort Cavazos/Hood...usually a very minor deal they don't wanna fuck with...and call Bell Co. S.O. to handle it (they, too, can deny prosecution for their own reasons).  admittedly i'm not at all well-versed on the rules or law here, simply stating what happens in the real world.  i could very well be wrong and what i just stated may well be some sort of local practice where everyone turns their head.  but we've tried to get cases kicked arguing exclusive federal jurisdiction and denied relief each time.

fucking county court at law judges, man...

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On 12/1/2025 at 8:58 PM, atomheartbevo said:

This one is really good, given how carefully the White House Press Secretary was dancing around the issue and trying to push discussion to the Department of Defense today, and how Hegseth's comments today were very carefully worded (while allowing for the possibility of the admiral taking the fall if the heat is too high).

I fully expected them to come out and say "fuck you, they are combatants who were a threat to Amerka and we had to kill them" but instead they are being extremely cautious with their language.

The interesting thing is that Trump this weekend said Hegseth told him that it didn't happen (two guys being killed after the boat was blown up) and then the DOD/White House couched their statements in a generic/vanilla way today. If Hegseth lied to Trump, that's a cardinal sin - Trump can lie to anybody at any time, but if you lie to him and he's called out for it, you're in deep shit and out of the trust circle.

And you can always find some lowlife willing to murder for you. The GOP is crawling with them.

 

19 hours ago, elfenix said:

As soon as Dreadnought slid into the water not only were all prior large gunships obsolete but it and every large gunships to follow was obsolete, they just didn't know it yet. At first they were too expensive to actually risk fighting them against one another, then they were totally obsoleted by being vulnerable to aircraft while being generally not as useful on the attack. 

Aircraft carriers are, too. Like the battleships, they're great for bullying countries with no real navy or submarine fleet. Throw in drones and the carriers are just attractive, prestige targets for unmanned aircraft attacks and high speed torpedoes.

At least they're enormously expensive to maintain and "protect" at sea.

 

 

17 hours ago, Exposition said:

In today's cabinet "meeting" he said he watched the first strike live, the vessel was on fire, and since he's a busy guy he had other meetings to attend so he left the conference room to do other things. Then, only later did he learn of the second strike while he was off doing other things. 

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Is the whole series now just making fun of the dotard and this batshit government?  Hilarious if so. They are good on content for the next 3 years minimum. 

 

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

For core constitutional functions, yes.  The only remedy for presidential criminality is impeachment, which can presumably be followed by prosecution.

Under this scheme then, using pardons as an example of an undoubtedly core constitutional function, POTUS could profit to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars for pardons granted toward the end of a term when there is insufficient time to impeach.

This would have been a much better hypothetical horrible than "Seal Team 6 killing political enemies," that was dismissed as hysterical.

One problem with all this is, outside of Trump, it never comes up or has not in the last 250 years.  

Congress could speed it up by enacting some Presidential crimes, though, and get a more sane Court to oveturn/revise the ruling.

After consideration, all presidential immunity should be presumptive, only, the presumption overcome by balancing the "chilling effect" against other considerations.

 

Given the thread subject, it's very funny that you're doing this thing about that hypo.

Posted
1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Is the whole series now just making fun of the dotard and this batshit government?  Hilarious if so. They are good on content for the next 3 years minimum. 

Yeah. Parker and Stone are looking like absolute locks for IRS audits and probably other forms of harassment. 

Posted
23 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

There's a real jurisdictional question in there.  If Hegseth ordered a murder in the Pentagon, is it a crime under Virginia law even if it was carried out elsewhere?

I haven't looked it up but I'm going to go ahead and say yes, Virginia has laws against conspiracy to murder. And that crime would have taken place in Virginia. In the absence of a pardon, he could be prosecuted by either or possibly even both of the Feds and Virginia. 

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11 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Yeah. Parker and Stone are looking like absolute locks for IRS audits and probably other forms of harassment. 

 Is there anyone left at the IRS after DOGE?



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