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the problem with Bama dropping even with a 20 point loss is that they already beat Georgia at Georgia.  committee will just say "yeah we can have the rubber match in the playoff!"

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while florida is the ultimate key to the texas and no playoffs issue (and kentucky, and miss state both hurt), i am starting to think that one of the biggest things that fucked us on the playoff this season is the fourth quarter against vandy.

we were winning 34-10 with ten minutes left in the fourth quarter and 34-16 with four minutes left. the perception of beating 10-2 vandy's ass 34-10 would have had an impact instead of it just looking like a field goal win. with a score like that and beating ou 23-6, there is really no rational argument for bama over texas.

 

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24 minutes ago, EuroHorn said:

If Georgia beats them as bad as us then we are equal to Alabama in record. We’ll both have a bad loss but we’ll have a better resume overall 

They finished second in the SEC.  We finished 6th.  That's how the committee looks at it.  Even though we beat aggy, we are not ahead of them

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9 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

The rules don't speak to that.  Only conference champions have any guarantees.  Besides, you could argue that the best two teams in the conference aren't in the CCG.  Bama could be the fourth best team, but yet made the CCG.

You got me there. It's not in the official CFP rules. But I can tell you the runner-up from the undisputed strongest conference in the nation isn't getting left out of the 12-team playoff in place of teams behind them because they lost the extra game. And Bama has already beaten the Dawgs once.

 

5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I am fine with that, but that also highlights the unbalanced schedules in major conferences. That is ignored when people say conference championship games shouldn’t not matter for the playoffs. 

I don't disagree. The Big 10 is even worse. Of their top four teams -- Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon and Michigan -- there were exactly two games played between those four schools. Michigan/Ohio State and Indiana/Oregon. That's it.

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1 minute ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

They finished second in the SEC.  We finished 6th.  That's how the committee looks at it.  Even though we beat aggy, we are not ahead of them

We finished 5th, though.

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13 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I am fine with that, but that also highlights the unbalanced schedules in major conferences. That is ignored when people say conference championship games shouldn’t not matter for the playoffs. 

Pods and mega conferences make ignoring the CCG really problematic, in fact.

I really don't think you can do the beauty contest and cherry-pick data points.  It goes weird places.

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28 minutes ago, Ojo Rojo said:

This is a fact:  the committee isn't going to make any choices based on the consequences of those choices on scheduling, TV dollars, meaningfulness of CCGs, etc.  They will base those decisions only on one question:  Which 12 teams are the best in the country? 

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53 minutes ago, C-Man said:

but playing that extra game shouldn't knock you out of the 12 no matter what happens.

But is that actually a good way to choose the best at large teams? By simply ignoring recent evidence that the losing team might not actually be any good?

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17 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

if you can't punish a team for losing the conference championship how can you punish a team for losing to the unbeaten previous years ncaaf champion 

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Its more about Duke and BYU  winning and knocking out Bama. In that scenario JMU assuming they win would be 5th highest ranked conf champ and another G5 guaranteed team will get in.  JMU being a top 5 conference champ AND the G5.  Rules are rules

IU, tOSU, Oregon, Tech, UGA, OU, JMU, G5, Tamu, Ole Miss, B12Champ BYU, Notre Dame

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

But is that actually a good way to choose the best at large teams? By simply ignoring recent evidence that the losing team might not actually be any good?

Well, can you point to aggy or Ole Miss or Oklahoma playing additional games against top 5 or top 10 games this weekend?

The CCG is do-or-die for Virginia and BYU for sure this weekend. Should Tech get a pass if it doesn't beat BYU this weekend? I'm not certain of that but I'd be shocked if they're not firmly in no matter what happens this weekend. It's also do-or-die for North Texas, Tulane and James Madison this weekend. (It also might not matter for North Texas/Tulane if James Madison wins.) It's not do-or-die for Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia or Alabama due to the strength of their conferences.

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17 minutes ago, C-Man said:

But I can tell you the runner-up from the undisputed strongest conference in the nation isn't getting left out of the 12-team playoff in place of teams behind them because they lost the extra game. And Bama has already beaten the Dawgs once.

 

 

CFP rules states highest ranked 5 conf champs.  Bama has to hope like hell BYU and Duke dont win.  Hell if UVA wins, they may take Bama's spot.

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6 minutes ago, C-Man said:

. It's also do-or-die for North Texas, Tulane and James Madison this weekend. (It also might not matter for North Texas/Tulane if James Madison wins.) It's not do-or-die for Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia or Alabama due to the strength of their conferences.

This is wrong.  The 5 highest ranked conf champs are in, JMU being one if UVA loses AND another G5 team (guaranteed)

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4 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Fyi, these are the only schools we have losing records against that arent in the SEC:

 

Air force 0-1

Byu 2-4

Minnesota 0-1

Ncst 0-1

Northwestern 0-1

Notre dame 3-9

Usc 2-5

Syracuse 0-2

Ucla 3-4

Va tech 0-1

Penn state 2-3

We should schedule all of the 0-1 teams just to make this fucking list shorter.

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24 minutes ago, sidis said:

while florida is the ultimate key to the texas and no playoffs issue (and kentucky, and miss state both hurt), i am starting to think that one of the biggest things that fucked us on the playoff this season is the fourth quarter against vandy.

we were winning 34-10 with ten minutes left in the fourth quarter and 34-16 with four minutes left. the perception of beating 10-2 vandy's ass 34-10 would have had an impact instead of it just looking like a field goal win. with a score like that and beating ou 23-6, there is really no rational argument for bama over texas.

 

I said exactly this after that game. Im still furious about it. We should be talking about blowing them out right now. 

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31 minutes ago, BonzoMontreaux said:

We should be getting more credit for simply playing a slate of all DI schools.  Seems like every team in front of us has a win over a D2 school.  

Yeah not enough is made of this...I dont' even remember the last lower division school Texas has played...if ever.  They should count those games as .5 wins.

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1 minute ago, Drew said:

Yeah not enough is made of this...I dont' even remember the last lower division school Texas has played...if ever.  They should count those games as .5 wins.

2006 SHSU but only because Arkansas canceled a game I think. Before that it was North Texas in 1992.

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4 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

This is wrong.  The 5 highest ranked conf champs are in, JMU being one if UVA loses AND another G5 team (guaranteed)

What part was wrong? If any of BYU, Virginia, James Madison, North Texas or Tulane lose there's no chance any of them get into the 12-team playoff. That's what I was saying.

I understand things start to get messy if Duke and BYU win, etc. I don't think any result in the B10 or SEC Championship Games will knock any of those four out of the final 12-team field. It will have an effect where they're all seeded.

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2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

What part was wrong? If any of BYU, Virginia, James Madison, North Texas or Tulane lose there's no chance any of them get into the 12-team playoff. That's what I was saying.

I understand things start to get messy if Duke and BYU win, etc. I don't think any result in the B10 or SEC Championship Games will knock any of those four out of the final 12-team field. It will have an effect where they're all seeded.

I thought your post inferred it wouldnt matter for UNT or Tulane if JMU win; meaning JMU would take the G5 spot. There is another variable and that is UVA/Duke. If JMU wins and UVA loses, both JMU and one of the G5 teams would both get in, so in that way, JMU winning wouldnt knock UNT/Tulane out

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Easiest solution for the committee is just put Texas ahead of Alabama tomorrow based on their shitass performance against Auburn, our double digit win over #3, and Florida kicking FSU's ass.

It will obviously not happen but it would be a lot cooler if they did. 

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