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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I haven't watched or read anything about the admiral, but I've been seeing concerns about the whole "war powers" thing and the administration trying to tie it to 9/11 and people saying "nah".

The whole conflict between the Article II CIC power and the Article I declare war power is pretty insane.  A major flaw in the Constitution.

Congress doesn't want the political baggage associated with declaring war for every little (and not so little conflict) and so is happy to have POTUS holding the bag for the Vietnams, Iraqs, and Afghanistans.  But they don't want to be judged harshly by history, either.

So, you get an Authorization for Use of Military Force, the last of which was this one https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf

That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

They have been trying to crowbar everything subsequent to 9/11 into that.  It's laughable at this point.

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Fun times. Just declare the Monroe Doctrine already. 

The U.S. flew Air Force B-1 bombers near Venezuela on Thursday, stepping up pressure on President Nicolás Maduro only days after other American warplanes carried out an “attack demonstration” near the South American country.

Two B-1 Lancers took off from Dyess Air Force Base in Texas on Thursday and flew near Venezuela, though they remained in international airspace, according to a U.S. official and flight tracking data.

The B-1 can fly at supersonic speeds and carry 75,000 lbs. of bombs, more than other U.S. bombers. They can also conduct maritime surveillance. The aircraft haven’t been moved to bases in the region, as they have the range to reach anywhere in the Caribbean from the U.S., according to a defense official.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/u-s-sends-b-1-bombers-near-venezuela-ramping-up-military-pressure-f9514126

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14 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Fun times. Just declare the Monroe Doctrine already. 

The Venezuelans actually have some relatively modern Russian anti-ship missiles on their newish Su-30s.  If we invade - it sounds like we are planning to, there's no reason for Maduro to hold back, since he knows he's going to end up dead or in a US prison. Trump is giving off those vibes, and we saw how much he enjoyed having that Iranian general killed in Iraq.

I'm worried a bit that we'll get an HMS Sheffield or SS Atlantic Conveyor.

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Just now, atomheartbevo said:

The Venezuelans actually have some relatively modern Russian anti-ship missiles on their newish Su-30s.  If we invade - it sounds like we are planning to, there's no reason for Maduro to hold back, since he knows he's going to end up dead or in a US prison. Trump is giving off those vibes, and we saw how much he enjoyed having that Iranian general killed in Iraq.

I'm worried a bit that we'll get an HMS Sheffield or SS Atlantic Conveyor.

They do. But how many? Those are prime tomahawk targets. Same with Air Defence. But we have seen in 3 countries supplied by Russia their shit is not that good. 4 if you count Iraq. 

My question is what is the goal? I think it is remove Maduro and take Maracaibo. It is not narcotics. That is just the excuse. 

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11 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

My question is what is the goal? I think it is remove Maduro and take Maracaibo. It is not narcotics. That is just the excuse. 

Yep, this is not about narcotics. Otherwise, we would have invaded Mexico long ago.

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16 minutes ago, immamac said:

Spoilers: trump wants to kill brown people, but only ones that makes it look like a flex and we already don't do shit with so he can scare others into submission. 

 Reporter: Why not just ask for a declaration of war?

Trump: I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay? We're going to kill them. You know, they're going to be, like, dead. Okay?

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1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Fun times. Just declare the Monroe Doctrine already. 

The U.S. flew Air Force B-1 bombers near Venezuela on Thursday, stepping up pressure on President Nicolás Maduro only days after other American warplanes carried out an “attack demonstration” near the South American country.

Two B-1 Lancers took off from Dyess Air Force Base in Texas on Thursday and flew near Venezuela, though they remained in international airspace, according to a U.S. official and flight tracking data.

The B-1 can fly at supersonic speeds and carry 75,000 lbs. of bombs, more than other U.S. bombers. They can also conduct maritime surveillance. The aircraft haven’t been moved to bases in the region, as they have the range to reach anywhere in the Caribbean from the U.S., according to a defense official.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/u-s-sends-b-1-bombers-near-venezuela-ramping-up-military-pressure-f9514126

During a roundtable earlier at the White House regarding the Cartels, President Donald J. Trump confusingly denied that today’s flight by a pair of B-1B “Lancer” Long-Range Heavy Bombers near Venezuela took place, despite them appearing clearly several times on Flightradar24, including at one point less than 50 miles off the coast of Venezuela, with Trump stating when asked about the flight, “No, it’s not accurate. No, it’s false, but we’re not happy with Venezuela for a lot of reasons.”

 

He lives to lie. 

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26 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 Reporter: Why not just ask for a declaration of war?

Trump: I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay? We're going to kill them. You know, they're going to be, like, dead. Okay?

Give him another Nobel!

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19 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

During a roundtable earlier at the White House regarding the Cartels, President Donald J. Trump confusingly denied that today’s flight by a pair of B-1B “Lancer” Long-Range Heavy Bombers near Venezuela took place, despite them appearing clearly several times on Flightradar24, including at one point less than 50 miles off the coast of Venezuela, with Trump stating when asked about the flight, “No, it’s not accurate. No, it’s false, but we’re not happy with Venezuela for a lot of reasons.”

He lives to lie. 

In a follow-up remark, Trump stated that FlightRadar24 "is frequently wrong, look at all of those idiots who bought the Saban-to-Texas rumors based on a couple of flimsy plane flights." 

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Meanwhile. 

he U.S. flew Air Force B-1 bombers near Venezuela on Thursday, stepping up pressure on President Nicolás Maduro only days after other American warplanes carried out an “attack demonstration” near the South American country.

Two B-1 Lancers took off from Dyess Air Force Base in Texas on Thursday and flew near Venezuela, though they remained in international airspace, according to a U.S. official and flight tracking data.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/u-s-sends-b-1-bombers-near-venezuela-ramping-up-military-pressure-f9514126

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Guess we don't need bases in the region. 

Pentagon Orders Aircraft Carrier to the Caribbean

WASHINGTON—The Pentagon said it is sending the Navy’s most advanced aircraft carrier to the Caribbean in a major escalation of the Trump administration’s military campaign to target drug smugglers and threaten governments in Latin America.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the USS Gerald R. Ford carrier, which is currently deployed in the Mediterranean, to the Caribbean, bringing dozens more fighter and surveillance aircraft, along with other Navy warships that accompany a carrier, officials said.

 

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/pentagon-orders-aircraft-carrier-to-the-caribbean-545e3893

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13 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Guess we don't need bases in the region. 

Pentagon Orders Aircraft Carrier to the Caribbean

WASHINGTON—The Pentagon said it is sending the Navy’s most advanced aircraft carrier to the Caribbean in a major escalation of the Trump administration’s military campaign to target drug smugglers and threaten governments in Latin America.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the USS Gerald R. Ford carrier, which is currently deployed in the Mediterranean, to the Caribbean, bringing dozens more fighter and surveillance aircraft, along with other Navy warships that accompany a carrier, officials said.

 

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/pentagon-orders-aircraft-carrier-to-the-caribbean-545e3893

Cover to creat a shorter lead time when he needs to pull those forces in for the 26 midterms and bomb blue cities to quell the “unrest.”. 

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3 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Guess we don't need bases in the region. 

Pentagon Orders Aircraft Carrier to the Caribbean

WASHINGTON—The Pentagon said it is sending the Navy’s most advanced aircraft carrier to the Caribbean in a major escalation of the Trump administration’s military campaign to target drug smugglers and threaten governments in Latin America.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered the USS Gerald R. Ford carrier, which is currently deployed in the Mediterranean, to the Caribbean, bringing dozens more fighter and surveillance aircraft, along with other Navy warships that accompany a carrier, officials said.

 

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/pentagon-orders-aircraft-carrier-to-the-caribbean-545e3893

Mexican cartels watching all of this

Cracking Up Lol GIF
 

So which of his family members is opening up an oil company to work with whoever we replace Maduro with?

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