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55 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

For me, corruption is the all-encompassing message.

Trump, his oligarch buddies, and a complicit GQP are rigging the country’s entire socioeconomic system against average Americans in plain sight. Frankly, it’s pretty fucking apparent and straightforward to point out with inumerable examples across the board. Plus, it doesn’t require a lot of higher thinking or complicated explanations. Finally, as a phenomenon, corruption doesn’t have an inherently liberal or conservative bias, and it’s not racially tinged or about any marginalized group.

Every ad, speech, or argument should begin with the thesis statement: “You are getting fucked by the most corrupt administration in US history.”

Then, follow up with umpteen examples based on the specific concerns of whichever audience is before you, whether it’s made up of old people (Medicare/Social Security), small businesses (tariffs/preferential tax breaks for megacorps), families (tax break for billionaires/environment and safety regulations) marginalized groups (they already know this), young people (education/student loans), etc.

Again, their corruption is widespread and out in the open, but Americans are too stupid or blinded by their hate to see how it hurts them. The gift is just sitting there, wrapped in a bow under the tree. Even if you have to grab, unwrap, and set it in their lap, do so.

Agree but it needs to be boiled down to a simple motto in few words.  Something like “Trump Tax and Steal” scheme.   And repeat over and over everywhere like pubs did with “Tax and Spend”.

Also on a recent PSA podcast they had an idea of having billboards all across america with ever growing digital estimates of how much Trump, his family and associates have grifted.  Loke the old national debt calculators that everyone used to care about.

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On 5/16/2025 at 1:59 PM, linux said:

Its head in the sand dude, we needed Gen Z men and we are losing them hard and fast. I don't think the trans issue affected them, it is naked propaganda, this will never win based on just what happened in the elections from 2024 onwards, but this is because the trans community is reeling and keeping quiet, THAT is the winning strategy, honey vs vinegar.

Woke politics however over the past 10 years have been bitter bitter vinegar from gender and sexual minorities. This made the news recently on another gamer drama, this is supposed to be a reporter at Vice

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Why make stupid posts like this? yes I get it it was supposed to be funny. No, it was not funny and it was a poison pill, one of millions.

MLK Jr had it right he was angry he was more woke than he let on, but he knew what was the path to victory, honey vs vinegar.

That said this is not a part of my theory. 

I'm not sure who taught you about King but he was most def a rabble rouser. The difference is there is was no internet so the problems were....over there. Now with social media marginalized groups are in your face as soon as you swipe your phone. If King's movement were happening today he would most def be in your face, annoying. Regardless, you guys are making it more than it is.

Young white men are breaking for Trump because it's easier to be an asshole than to be respectful. Nothing more. They see the olds in their life disregarding women and marginalized groups and they want to join in. They've been told that they are the top of the food chain and along comes this guy who says you can act like everyone else is beneath you too. It's nothing OTHER people are doing, it's just one group says we care about everyone, and the other group says we care about you. It's trendy to be a dick right now, and young people are nothing if not trendy.

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1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

I'm not sure who taught you about King but he was most def a rabble rouser. The difference is there is was no internet so the problems were....over there. Now with social media marginalized groups are in your face as soon as you swipe your phone. If King's movement were happening today he would most def be in your face, annoying. Regardless, you guys are making it more than it is.

Young white men are breaking for Trump because it's easier to be an asshole than to be respectful. Nothing more. They see the olds in their life disregarding women and marginalized groups and they want to join in. They've been told that they are the top of the food chain and along comes this guy who says you can act like everyone else is beneath you too. It's nothing OTHER people are doing, it's just one group says we care about everyone, and the other group says we care about you. It's trendy to be a dick right now, and young people are nothing if not trendy.

The latter part is already baked in the baseline, Republicans were never getting 0% of Gen Z males, however the near 18 demographic went from something like 60% democrat to 44% democrat the exact stats are above, this is the woke consequence I have been warning about.

MLK Jr played the smart game, the I have a dream speech did not talk about reparations for example, and for good reason they wanted to win, they pushed pure equality. It was later that stuff like affirmative action started to creep in. 

Looping back to the trans debate in sports, they should have pushed for a open circuit for all and a lower testosterone level circuit (many many years of tracked low T needed to qualify), but they wanted their cake and eat it too so they pushed for keeping the "woman" in the title and joining, it was ideology it was breaking fairness (weight divisions in boxing as a historical precedent) and it was verbally toxic.

The above would have been a perfect compromise that pleased everyone but the biggest bigot, but histeria won the day.

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I tend to agree with Linux here. I don't have a ton of interactions with young males, but I've had enough to know that every single ones even the tolerant ones hate all the woke shit. 

You can also watch any asmongold clips and very quickly understand how that plays out. Young people fucking hate it when a bunch of disconnected from reality suits tell them what they should think, it's not really that strange. 

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8 minutes ago, immamac said:

 I don't have a ton of interactions with young males, but I've had enough to know that every single ones even the tolerant ones hate all the woke shit......

You don't have a ton of interaction....yet you know that EVERY SINGLE ONE  hates the woke shit?    

 

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Just now, Chico_SA said:

You don't have a ton of interaction....yet you know that EVERY SINGLE ONE  hates the woke shit?    

 

Yeah, cuz it's not hard to see. It's very fucking easy to see unless you have your fucking head in the sand. 

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I meant every single one of my interactions. Not every single young male. I think that context is pretty obvious in the sentence as I prequalify the statement

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Quick edit.  I figured that's what you meant. 

 

I'm a high school teacher of Juniors and Seniors, so I actually do have lots of interactions with younger students. 

Not trying to be argumentative, but in my experience, young (HS age) males aren't really thinking too much about it, but they are overwhelmingly tolerant.

One of the things that has really impressed me over the last 10 years, is how good or tolerant high school kids in general are to kids of "alternate" lifestyles. 

 

Perhaps it changes in their early college/work years.  

 

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23 minutes ago, linux said:

The latter part is already baked in the baseline, Republicans were never getting 0% of Gen Z males, however the near 18 demographic went from something like 60% democrat to 44% democrat the exact stats are above, this is the woke consequence I have been warning about.

MLK Jr played the smart game, the I have a dream speech did not talk about reparations for example, and for good reason they wanted to win, they pushed pure equality. It was later that stuff like affirmative action started to creep in. 

Looping back to the trans debate in sports, they should have pushed for a open circuit for all and a lower testosterone level circuit (many many years of tracked low T needed to qualify), but they wanted their cake and eat it too so they pushed for keeping the "woman" in the title and joining, it was ideology it was breaking fairness (weight divisions in boxing as a historical precedent) and it was verbally toxic.

The above would have been a perfect compromise that pleased everyone but the biggest bigot, but histeria won the day.

It's human nature to not like change Linux. I honestly don't think it mattered whether it was sports or not, people are always going to find something to rail against in the area of equality. We hated Women, Irish, Italians, Chinese, Japanese, Blacks, Hispanics, Indians, Middle Eastern, Gays, Trans, and now we are currently back to Hispanics again. We've put a fence up for every issue, every step of the way. So as I said nobody wants to change and being inclusive requires some sacrifice that a lot of people aren't willing to make.



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