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Man if we didn’t shit the bed in baseball, we run away with this. USC, Stanford, UNC, Tenn, Florida, OU all didn’t make Omaha either 

Just making a super probably clinches it. God damnit 

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This well get you guys upset.  I think basketball costed us 20 points by not winning the play-in game.  And men's basketball is a mandatory scoring sport and can't be replaced by a higher score in another sport.

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On 6/3/2025 at 10:46 PM, chiu1040 said:

Men's track participants in championships (where ranked in prelims)

Xavier Butler, 200M, 8th fastest

Kendrick Smallwood, 110M hurdles, 1st

Kody Blackwood, 400M hurdles, 1st

4X100 relay, 3rd

4X400 relay, 6th

Osawese Agbonkonkon, 17th, but his height is very close to 1st

Kelsey Daniel, triple jump, 5th

Texas Tanner, discus, 11th

Texas Tanner, hammer, 4th

We need to finish 13th or better to match our expected points.  Last year, 13th place scored 19 total team points.  Last year, we finished 12th and scored 20 total team points.  Texas won the decathlon and had a 5th place finish and 2 6th place finishes to score the 20 points.   If Texas can do well in the hurdles, relays, and hammer, then we have a good chance to place better than 13th.

 

 

Quoting a prior post of mine now that the track tournament starts tomorrow, so we can see names to follow.

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11 minutes ago, chiu1040 said:

This well get you guys upset.  I think basketball costed us 20 points by not winning the play-in game.  And men's basketball is a mandatory scoring sport and can't be replaced by a higher score in another sport.

Nah if we win that game, RT is probably still here 

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1 hour ago, chiu1040 said:

This well get you guys upset.  I think basketball costed us 20 points by not winning the play-in game.  And men's basketball is a mandatory scoring sport and can't be replaced by a higher score in another sport.

In the 4 scenarios that USC wins below, 3 of them are by 12.25 points or fewer, so either baseball or basketball could have flipped those by advancing one more round.  There is 1 scenario where neither baseball's 14 points lost or basketball's 20 points lost would make up the difference (22.25 point difference)

Basketball was in the play-in,  Baseball was #2 overall seed.  One way way way way way underperformed and there's a small chance it will cost us the Cup.

On 6/6/2025 at 6:53 AM, Mittens said:

 

 

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6 hours ago, Js1 said:

Man if we didn’t shit the bed in baseball, we run away with this. USC, Stanford, UNC, Tenn, Florida, OU all didn’t make Omaha either 

Just making a super probably clinches it. God damnit 

Based on expectations, volleyball is the sport that cost us. Down years happen of course. 

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All of our individual and team sprinters are competing today in semifinal heats.  Sprint finals are on Friday, as well as the high jump and triple jump finals.  Results can be seen in the link below.  I goofed in including Texas Tanner as one of our participants in the discus and hammer, as he competes for another school.

 

NCAA Outdoor Championships

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13 hours ago, avidhornslurker said:

Based on expectations, volleyball is the sport that cost us. Down years happen of course. 

You think? As a 3 seed, Texas was expected to lose in the Elite 8 and we lost in the Sweet 16

Baseball, as #2 overall, was at least expected to make Omaha 

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11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

You think? As a 3 seed, Texas was expected to lose in the Elite 8 and we lost in the Sweet 16

Baseball, as #2 overall, was at least expected to make Omaha 

If you consider pre-season expectations, volleyball was absolutely the bigger disappointment. 

I would argue that baseball OVERperformed during the season, driving expectations up.

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2 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

If you consider pre-season expectations, volleyball was absolutely the bigger disappointment. 

I would argue that baseball OVERperformed during the season, driving expectations up.

But your scoring is based on how you perform. Postseason seeding is what creates your point expectations.  Baseball vastly underperformed their expected points compared to seeding

I agree both veered off from their preseason expectations 

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15 minutes ago, Js1 said:

But your scoring is based on how you perform. Postseason seeding is what creates your point expectations.  Baseball vastly underperformed their expected points compared to seeding

I agree both veered off from their preseason expectations 

I understand, but the point expectations based off of post-season seedlings is just a point in time, same as preseason.

I'll take a team who overperformed during the season and disappointed in the post-season vs one that really didn't show up at all (relatively).

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18 hours ago, Js1 said:

In the 4 scenarios that USC wins below, 3 of them are by 12.25 points or fewer, so either baseball or basketball could have flipped those by advancing one more round.  There is 1 scenario where neither baseball's 14 points lost or basketball's 20 points lost would make up the difference (22.25 point difference)

Basketball was in the play-in,  Baseball was #2 overall seed.  One way way way way way underperformed and there's a small chance it will cost us the Cup.

 

DC Updates has an error in calculating USC's max score.  He overstates it by 40 points because starting this year, women's soccer *has* to be counted, and USC gets zero points there instead of the 40 he was counting for men's golf as the final counted score of the max 14 optional sports.  They can't count a full 200 points from sweeping T&F - they get a max of 160.  Adding 160 to USC's current score of 1068.75 leaves them at 1228.75, which is short of Stanford's current score, so they're out.  

The remaining schools mathematically in contention are Stanford at 1237.5 (max 1352.5), Texas at 1211 (max 1348.5), UCLA at 1130.5 (max 1319), and North Carolina at 1178.75 (max 1310.25).  UNC has very small and weak T&F teams at natls, so they're eliminated for all practical purposes.  UCLA has a very small and weak men's team, so they really need to win both CWS and women's track to just barely pass Stanford's current score, so their chances are razor thin, since it's not going to be that hard for Stanford to improve their score through the women's track team (small, but with some highly ranked runners and jumpers).

Men's basketball only bringing in 5 points is to me the obvious disappointment, though it does get us out of the RT purgatory.  On the positive side, I sure wasn't expecting to get 60 points out of the beach volleyball team. 

C'mon track (especially the men's hurdlers)! 

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30 minutes ago, nozatx said:

DC Updates has an error in calculating USC's max score.  He overstates it by 40 points because starting this year, women's soccer *has* to be counted, and USC gets zero points there instead of the 40 he was counting for men's golf as the final counted score of the max 14 optional sports.  They can't count a full 200 points from sweeping T&F - they get a max of 160.  Adding 160 to USC's current score of 1068.75 leaves them at 1228.75, which is short of Stanford's current score, so they're out.  

You said this already, and it was refuted by the post immediately following yours.  I don't know which is correct, but I'm not counting the cup until we have won the cup.  

 

On 6/9/2025 at 7:57 AM, nozatx said:

Okay, more succinctly, DC Updates overstates USC's total score potential by 40 points due to a technical error with women's soccer and USC cannot catch Stanford's current 1237.5.  UT T&F has to do place high enough to catch and stay ahead of Stanford.  So, watch results for UT M&W as well as Stanford W.  Despite Stanford's relatively low track ranking, it only takes a couple of really high finishes to move way up the T&F team standings.

 

On 6/9/2025 at 10:43 AM, chiu1040 said:

Though I can't always match DC update's scores exactly, he did get USC soccer right.  They lost in the quarterfinals and scored 73 points.  That's already in the score release of the Fall sports.  Looks like an official update is coming out tomorrow that will reflect everything except baseball and T&F.

 

 

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39 minutes ago, nozatx said:

C'mon track (especially the men's hurdlers)! 

T&F just needs to meet expected point totals and all is good

Don't FAFO 

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42 minutes ago, idigTexas said:

You said this already, and it was refuted by the post immediately following yours.  I don't know which is correct, but I'm not counting the cup until we have won the cup.  

 

 

 

 

Confirmed.  That's embarrassing - oh, well. Yep, USC still in it.  Sorry about that.  

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8 hours ago, Js1 said:

You think? As a 3 seed, Texas was expected to lose in the Elite 8 and we lost in the Sweet 16

Baseball, as #2 overall, was at least expected to make Omaha 

All that matters is the final result. From being national title favorites to Sweet 16 was a significant point swing. Like 50 points right? Normal dominant volleyball season and the directors cup is over. 

This year actually feels like a weird year for Texas considering some of the dominant programs underachieved based on historic performance. Thats probably why this is a close race. 

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Only one sprint team did not make it to the finals. They had the 9th fastest qualifying time and finished 12th. They would not have been projected to score team points as only the top 8 score.

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On 6/10/2025 at 2:38 PM, chiu1040 said:

This well get you guys upset.  I think basketball costed us 20 points by not winning the play-in game.  And men's basketball is a mandatory scoring sport and can't be replaced by a higher score in another sport.

This upsets me a lot less than you might imagine. Rodney Terry had to go. We're very fortunate we got out of that deal in a minimum amount of time. 

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13 hours ago, Js1 said:

But your scoring is based on how you perform. Postseason seeding is what creates your point expectations.  Baseball vastly underperformed their expected points compared to seeding

I agree both veered off from their preseason expectations 

This isn't really about the Director's Cup, as much as it is another comparison of baseball and volleyball. I always hoped volleyball would somehow magically put it together in the postseason and then steamroll through the Final Four the way they did the year before. Obviously, it never happened.

I always thought the baseball team was put together with chewing gum and bailing wire to some degree. Just a clutch team that seemed to do what it took all season long, with heroics from everyone up and down the lineup. But I never thought of us as a potential juggernaut, particularly after we lost our one true stud starting pitcher. The volleyball team had the talent. Just something was off all season long. Didn't even win the conference, which I thought was practically a given, while the baseball team did, in a sport the SEC has been better at than volleyball traditionally (nothing against Kentucky, who has absolutely been a great program, along with Florida). 

Skinner for one, IMO, should have been the best player in the country by far, and she simply wasn't able to attain that level for a variety of reasons. 

In any case, it's not over either way, but I am nervous about our track and field performances. To carry the metaphor further, I feel like we have a huge lead in the 4X100 with the baton handed off to our anchor, but USC has the equivalent of Johnny Lam Jones on their side. 

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2 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

USC may be favorite for 2nd now. I like the sound of that.

I read that as favorite for 2nd, in Women’s Track. They were ranked 3rd going into the championships 

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Just now, Js1 said:

I read that as favorite for 2nd, in Women’s Track. They were ranked 3rd going into the championships 

That sucks. You're probably right, but I like my reading better. It's the Directors Cup Updates, for goodness sakes. Not the T&F update twitter feed. 

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9 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

That sucks. You're probably right, but I like my reading better. It's the Directors Cup Updates, for goodness sakes. Not the T&F update twitter feed. 

I think its over if the directors cup updates page is right. Even if USC wins both track championships Texas would win the cup if they finish 14th on both sides. Based on early projections, the women are going to finish a lot higher than 14th to give the men plenty of room for error. Thats even assuming worst case scenario of USC winning both titles. 

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11 minutes ago, chiu1040 said:

We may lose the DC. Men in 31st place. One of best runners DQed in his event.

USC is in 1st as they expected to be. Arkansas or A&M could possibly pass them based on the 4x400 relay.

Its over unless USC pulls a major upset and wins the womens side. 

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42 minutes ago, chiu1040 said:
We may lose the DC. Men in 31st place. One of best runners DQed in his event.

USC is in 1st as they expected to be. Arkansas or A&M could possibly pass them based on the 4x400 relay.


Wow. USC almost lost the title by finishing in 8th. A&M finished 2nd in the relay, and they share the title.  So I'm not sure if USC loses 5 points because they shared the title and average the scores for 1st and 2nd.  

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Not that people are likely to care, but I found my earlier gaffe - I had assigned USC's W SOC result to M SOC, and that threw the countable sports off even though the raw totals matched the published Learfield updates.

Having said that, going into W T&F tonight, I have Stanford still at 1237.5, UT at 1224, and USC at 1163.75.  USC will get to add full results of their W T&F score since they have not maxed out on number of countable sports.  Stanford W T&F has to finish better than 15th to start adding any points to their score, UT W have to finish better than tied for 38th to start counting.  My totals agree with DC Updates' latest assessment in that UT has only a virtual 24.75 point lead on USC because UT will have to drop the 35.5 points for W indoor TF from their final score.  I think that UT women have to finish 25th or better just to catch Stanford's current total.   

Best chance for UT is colossal failure from USC women tonight along with fantastic results in the 4 events left for UT women (along with Stanford women not finishing higher than 15th, which they certainly could).  Tough, but not impossible.  

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Texas women currently sitting in 7th with no more finalists remaining, so we have no where to go but down with 5 events remaining. Georgia has run away with the title, so if USC finishes 2nd, Texas needs to hope they can hang on in the top 11

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14 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

I tuned in just after it, so I'm not sure. It would help if aggy finishes ahead of USC in the 4 x 100 relay

If the schedule above is right, 4 x 100 is long over. 

4 x 400 left. 

Final event now, USC up 3 on Aggy. 

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On 6/13/2025 at 10:00 PM, Texas Wahoo said:

Did we confirm the above is right?  Here are the current standings with only the 4x400 to go:

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We're not in the 4x400 finals but of the teams close behind us, I only see Arkansas in the final.  A&M and USC are both in it so USC could still drop to 3rd.

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Arkansas's 2nd place in the 4x400 is going to bump us to tied for 10th in the women's track meet.  I think USC finished ahead of aggy, so they'll be 2nd in the track meet.

Up above said if USC was 2nd we needed to be 11th or better, so yeah just by the skin of our teeth.

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