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On 8/5/2025 at 7:55 PM, Satchel said:

Texas has gobs of money. But it doesn’t have all the money. Could very well be.

Tech has gobs of money as well, and it's not going to run out of money any time soon. Cody Campbell et all aren't dumb, they know the spending will have to continue ad infinitum, it's not about blowing a bunch of money on one single football season, they'll have to keep doing this year after year and the results fans want probably won't come as quickly as they want.

And yeah, we're pretty much trying to follow Texas' model. It's a good model. The product on the field is proof of that, and it took some time for Texas as well.

Either way it'll be a much more interesting ride than it was before.

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40 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Tech has gobs of money as well, and it's not going to run out of money any time soon. Cody Campbell et all aren't dumb, they know the spending will have to continue ad infinitum, it's not about blowing a bunch of money on one single football season, they'll have to keep doing this year after year and the results fans want probably won't come as quickly as they want.

And yeah, we're pretty much trying to follow Texas' model. It's a good model. The product on the field is proof of that, and it took some time for Texas as well.

Either way it'll be a much more interesting ride than it was before.

That was kinda my point.. Since my earlier post, I’ve learned Tech is going head to head with Texas for this QB:

The Red Raiders would also position themselves well for other elite targets, including Rivals’ No. 1 quarterback Kavian Bryant, who lists Texas Tech and Texas in his top two, and Rivals Industry five-star offensive tackle Cooper Hackett.

 

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On 8/5/2025 at 12:24 PM, Js1 said:

Which makes for a fun season, but also screws you over with CFP bids because you have too many contenders.  You need to be top-heavy, so the bottom of the league can't hand extra losses to the top of the league

Better to have 2 or 3 teams that are 10-2 than 4-5 teams that are 9-3/8-4.  Because you probably only getting 1 bid. 

The SEC/Big10 model.  Sadly, this is the state of college football.

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Tech just landed the #4 24/7, #1 Rivals recruit in the country, stealing him from Georgia and their backyard.  It will be interesting to see how they manage this shift in fortunes over the next few years.  They're doing everything they need to be doing if they want a seat at the big boy table in 2030/31, which they certainly deserve over some of the dregs of the SEC and Big 10. 

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1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

Tech has gobs of money as well, and it's not going to run out of money any time soon. Cody Campbell et all aren't dumb, they know the spending will have to continue ad infinitum, it's not about blowing a bunch of money on one single football season, they'll have to keep doing this year after year and the results fans want probably won't come as quickly as they want.

And yeah, we're pretty much trying to follow Texas' model. It's a good model. The product on the field is proof of that, and it took some time for Texas as well.

Either way it'll be a much more interesting ride than it was before.

Part of the “Texas model” is being the flagship university in the best town for young people in one of the most football crazed and talent rich states. With the most actual winning tradition. 
 
Good luck!

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Good luck to Tech and all but imo you can’t just buy success. Texas (UT) has Austin, a great university, a great team, and great coaches (and money) and even then it’s a challenge.   
 

Look at aggy. Football players qua mercenaries (or maybe mercenaries qua football players) won’t get it done. IMO. 

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16 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Good luck to Tech and all but imo you can’t just buy success. Texas (UT) has Austin, a great university, a great team, and great coaches (and money) and even then it’s a challenge.   
 

Look at aggy. Football players qua mercenaries (or maybe mercenaries qua football players) won’t get it done. IMO. 

But then there’s the current national champion, Ohio State. Sometimes you eat the bear. Sometimes, the bear eats you.

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26 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Good luck to Tech and all but imo you can’t just buy success. Texas (UT) has Austin, a great university, a great team, and great coaches (and money) and even then it’s a challenge.   
 

Look at aggy. Football players qua mercenaries (or maybe mercenaries qua football players) won’t get it done. IMO. 

They have paid a lot of money recently for Canady (softball / NCAA runner up), Toppin (Elite 8 and near Final Four berth) and now football. 

Glasco and McCasland though lap the coaching field with McDUI, so it remains to be seen if they can translate all the recruiting/portal success in football to wins.  That conference will eat you up with the parity. 

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1 hour ago, statsman said:

Part of the “Texas model” is being the flagship university in the best town for young people in one of the most football crazed and talent rich states. With the most actual winning tradition. 
 
Good luck!

Sure but winning traditions can be established, and some of the programs with great winning traditions are situated in really shitty towns/in the middle of nowhere. Unless you think Norman, OK is some kind of destination.

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Not gonna sit here and pretend Justus Terry and Atkinson were just filled with so much Texas love and that’s why we pulled them in. But Austin vs Lubbock is a big big pull. There’s no telling how much they are over paying to get these dudes there. And how well do you lock in when you are somewhere you really don’t want to be (Aggy 22)

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33 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Not gonna sit here and pretend Justus Terry and Atkinson were just filled with so much Texas love and that’s why we pulled them in. But Austin vs Lubbock is a big big pull. There’s no telling how much they are over paying to get these dudes there. And how well do you lock in when you are somewhere you really don’t want to be (Aggy 22)

I mean that's the big question, right? I don't really think that it matters as much as people try to make it out, but the question is obviously is it going to turn out like Aggy or Fl State or will they actually be able to build a winning tradition. 

The alternative is just not to try at all, I guess, which is certainly what some of the traditional blue bloods that suddenly can't get every single player they want would prefer.

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31 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Sure but winning traditions can be established, and some of the programs with great winning traditions are situated in really shitty towns/in the middle of nowhere. Unless you think Norman, OK is some kind of destination.

We've broken this down and watched it for years in the recruiting forum. "The only problem for Oregon is that, well, you can't move Oregon." Same holds true for Tech. You guys can find recruits and transfers to moneywhip, there is no doubt. There is also no doubt that the vast majority of recruits and players do not want to live in a dust bowl located 6 hours from anything. At least Eugene is pretty. 

The Norman reference doesn't work. OU built their program by cheating. They leveraged their competitive advantage - an ingrained, core-DNA level lack of integrity or shame - to achieve outsized results versus the competition. Their willingness to buy players was often a bridge too far from where Texas or others were willing to go. That's a bygone era. 

Being able to pay as much or slightly more for given players isn't really a competitive advantage. When Oregon and Texas go head to head and they both really want a guy, it's like a 50/50 split on who wins. Michigan overbids and still loses guys. Same for Bama or Georgia. Yet those places all have tradition and many not named Oregon sit in hotbeds for talent. 

Tech has a chance to put a fine roster together, that is not being disputed. Sustaining that and then actually achieving anything with it deservedly being disputed. You guys have never won shit and you have a dipshit for a head coach. Start with a conference title. Hell, just get to the game for once. Then maybe talking beyond that looks something less than laughable to the rest of us. 

Also, I know Campbell and the other guy are billionaires, but Texas is fielding a $40M+ roster this year and a big chunk of that is corporate, not only revshare or collective. Tech's going to get virtually zero support from the corporate side. If Tech is fielding a $40-50M roster each year, because that's what sustaining success is going to take, those dudes are going to burn some net worth. They're not Phil Knight or Larry Ellison rich and they don't have the collective wealth of both the UT base and the UT AD.

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Tech  should just close up shop.  Y'all decided it was so.

Never fucking change Whorn boys.  Gotdammit.  Never fucking change.  LOLz.

There's a couple a y'all who never come off message.  It's a gift for this and the Big XII threads.

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11 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Tech  should just close up shop.  Y'all decided it was so.

Never fucking change Whorn boys.  Gotdammit.  Never fucking change.  LOLz.

There's a couple a y'all who never come off message.  It's a gift for this and the Big XII threads.

You are perpetually insecure about discussing Tech. No one is saying you don't have a chance. There's also no "message" to come off of here. Tech has never won a fucking thing and until they do, they're an easy target to mock. It's fun and you shitting yourself each time we do it only provides the chemical hit in our brains that we're looking for when we write this stuff. 

I, for one, do not wish to ever see Tech close up shop. I enjoy rooting against Tech and making fun of their ongoing ineptitude as an athletic department. I don't know how this will all end with the moneywhipping and not winning, but I do know that it will be hilarious in unintentional ways. 

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23 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Start with a conference title. Hell, just get to the game for once.

I mean that's the goal, is it not? It's not like we're saying natty or bust. You gotta start somewhere. You're telling us to do that, we'll that's what we're trying to do. We're not taking a guy like Guyton so we can laugh in Poorgia's faces and high five each other. Moral victories are Aggy's department. We're doing it so we can try to build winning rosters moving forward. It either works or it doesn't, and anyone with a brain knows it will take time either way.

Maybe you're right about Joey, I have no real investment in him at all, if he gets it done he gets it done. Great. If he doesn't, cya. Find someone else. You guys still being upset years later about some dumbass hyperbole he engaged in trying to hype his players up after a win is amusing to me, at least. Don't be so thin skinned.

Like I said, the alternative is to just not try at all. Also, the notion that the money is going to run out is just cope. Tech's not losing money here. The athletic department isn't poor and being propped up by a single dude like Oklahoma State's was for so many years. As long as the will is there, so will the money. Tech has plenty of wealthy donors, not as many as Texas, but it's not as far off as you might think, either.

Also, I don't think the comparison to Aggy's spending sprees are apt. Every single person that goes to A&M that isn't a creepy WASPy cult freak is a fish out of water there, and they aren't trying to build a culture. They have an established, all-encompassing culture that is never going to change and that most players will never feel like they're a part of. That's not really the case with Tech, even with Lubbock being out in the middle of nowhere.

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19 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

You are perpetually insecure about discussing Tech.

Bullshit.  I call it as straight as anyone.  I have no problem discussing anything about the program and have always done so, even publicly on board sponsored podcasts.  see anyone else stepping out there in the same manner?

It's the same fucking playbook all the time with a handful of you guys.  It's not a big deal, but it gets fucking old.  Something happens," blah, blah, blah  Texas is the greatest.  You'll never do shit. "

Got it.  Seen the show before.  Get some new material.  It'd also be different if we were perpetually starting shit in this thread, which we don't.  So like I said, just stay on message and keep the same bitchass routine.

 

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4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

I mean that's the goal, is it not? It's not like we're saying natty or bust. You gotta start somewhere. You're telling us to do that, we'll that's what we're trying to do. We're not taking a guy like Guyton so we can laugh in Poorgia's faces and high five each other. Moral victories are Aggy's department. We're doing it so we can try to build winning rosters moving forward. It either works or it doesn't, and anyone with a brain knows it will take time either way.

Maybe you're right about Joey, I have no real investment in him at all, if he gets it done he gets it done. Great. If he doesn't, cya. Find someone else. You guys still being upset years later about some dumbass hyperbole he engaged in trying to hype his players up after a win is amusing to me, at least. Don't be so thin skinned.

Like I said, the alternative is to just not try at all. Also, the notion that the money is going to run out is just cope. Tech's not losing money here. The athletic department isn't poor and being propped up by a single dude like Oklahoma State's was for so many years. As long as the will is there, so will the money. Tech has plenty of wealthy donors, not as many as Texas, but it's not as far off as you might think, either.

Also, I don't think the comparison to Aggy's spending sprees are apt. Every single person that goes to A&M that isn't a creepy WASPy cult freak is a fish out of water there, and they aren't trying to build a culture. They have an established, all-encompassing culture that is never going to change and that most players will never feel like they're a part of. That's not really the case with Tech, even with Lubbock being out in the middle of nowhere.

a) Joey McGuire was steering recruits away from Texas when he was running shit at a football factory. He negative recruited Texas at Baylor in ways that were dishonest. Then he went to Tech and ran his fucking mouth. Don't give yourself too much credit. Those of us who follow recruiting have disliked that drunk motherfucker for a long, long time. 

b) We're Texas. You're Tech. We're not "coping" about shit. I'm pointing out the level of commitment it takes to sustain being nationally competitive in this era. Texas is and will be fine. You seem confident in Tech doing same. Clearly, the guys talking to The Athletic feel the same. Good for you guys. 

c) I didn't mention ATM, albeit others did. I tend to agree with your thoughts on them relative to anyone else, Texas Tech included. 

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21 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Tech  should just close up shop.  Y'all decided it was so.

Never fucking change Whorn boys.  Gotdammit.  Never fucking change.  LOLz.

There's a couple a y'all who never come off message.  It's a gift for this and the Big XII threads.

I'm glad knowing that I will live my life never having to find relevance about the team I root for by posting on a rival team's message board.

Tech is only relevant when it plays good teams in any sport. Tech will never be more than a one-off trivia question. 

Enjoy rooting for a program that has been and will always be perpetually nothing. Enjoy wasting your life and money on that. 

I enjoy watching watching the same thing happen to Tech and Tech fans every year. Just like Aggies. It warms my heart every year.

So, I hope you never change, too. 

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Just now, Iceman said:

Bullshit.  I call it as straight as anyone.  I have no problem discussing anything about the program and have always done so, even publicly on board sponsored podcasts.

It's the same fucking playbook all the time with a handful of you guys.  It's not a big deal, but it gets fucking old.  Something happens, blah, blah, blah  Texas is the greatest.  You'll never do shit.  Got it.  Seen the show before.  Get some new material.

 

Why on earth would we seek new material when we are usually entertained by your behavior with the same ol' same ol'? You have a giant button right there on your virtual chest that says "push me and I'll get pissy and whine about mean ol'Texas on a Texas board".

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Just now, closetojumping said:

Why on earth would we seek new material when we are usually entertained by your behavior with the same ol' same ol'? You have a giant button right there on your virtual chest that says "push me and I'll get pissy and whine about mean ol'Texas on a Texas board".

That's just it.  It's not just a Texas board.  It's bigger than that.  Always has been.

The absence of your general tone is what makes the place better than others.  In some cases, MUCH better.

Carry on.

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6 minutes ago, Danimal said:

I'm glad knowing that I will live my life never having to find relevance about the team I root for by posting on a rival team's message board.

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I don't give a shit about Tech, one way or another.

If they can buy a Big 12 title, good for them. God knows they need a distraction from the cold, hard fact of living in Lubbock.

I grew up in West Texas, and now that the last relatives have moved or dead, I'm never going back.

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3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

a) Joey McGuire was steering recruits away from Texas when he was running shit at a football factory. He negative recruited Texas at Baylor in ways that were dishonest. Then he went to Tech and ran his fucking mouth. Don't give yourself too much credit. Those of us who follow recruiting have disliked that drunk motherfucker for a long, long time. 

b) We're Texas. You're Tech. We're not "coping" about shit. I'm pointing out the level of commitment it takes to sustain being nationally competitive in this era. Texas is and will be fine. You seem confident in Tech doing same. Clearly, the guys talking to The Athletic feel the same. Good for you guys. 

c) I didn't mention ATM, albeit others did. I tend to agree with your thoughts on them relative to anyone else, Texas Tech included. 

A) Those are also valid reasons not to like him, but there are plenty of coaches that do the same for Texas. Probably a lot more than any other in the state, actually. Texas does a lot of negative recruiting, everyone does. There's a reason: it works. I don't really like it either, it just is what it is. Rodney Terry did a TON of nasty negative recruiting against us because he was very upset that his star player at UTEP didn't follow him to Texas. It's shitty, but it happens everywhere. No one is immune.

B) When I say coping I'm just making a joke. It's just a silly thing I see on Twitter all the time, as if we found a pile of money in a chest of drawers somewhere and we're desperate to win something before it runs out. The sustainability is not a question, at all.

Also can someone please shut slorch the fuck up? Jesus, he argues like a 13 year old and it's so cringe.

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7 minutes ago, Iceman said:

That's just it.  It's not just a Texas board.  It's bigger than that.  Always has been.

It’s about big titties too….at least for some of us.

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6 minutes ago, Sal said:

What’s sad is how much the Tech fans on here confirm the stereotypes

Aren't you the guy that came into the basketball board to make like 3 posts this past season and all of them where whining about Tech or Tech posters? Shut your bitch ass up little boy!

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