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12 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I fear we will be saying what if a bunch when this team is wasted by Quinn. 

what's all this wasted team bullshit from everyone.  im expecting good to great defense and offense for the foreseeable future. were just getting started. 

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49 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

It looks as though PFF tagged him with 2 drops in the championship game.  If that was 1, they may have given Ewers a BTT too.

I don’t think either of those were the case.  It was certainly catchable.  Even though the defender did not hit the ball, he was a distraction and possible he could have obstructed Goldens vision for a moment.

I need to watch it again but thought there was room to put it out front of Golden.  A good example of a play that’s there and can win you a game.

Pass was slightly off to the inside and touch under thrown (obviously looking with a critical eye). My general view was it was good offense vs good coverage. Defender didn’t hit the ball, but he had his arm between Golden’s arms and body. Not sure he doesn’t make a play to break it up, if Golden grabs it. I get people calling it a drop, but it is on that line to me. More a contested catch situation that could go either way. I can’t remember another throw that you would consider a drop for Golden 

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Here are my random thoughts this morning, if anyone cares. I actually think Sark has done a great job of not turning this into a full blown Applewhite/Simms nightmare. I said leaving the spring game that Ewers better ball the fuck out and not miss any time due to injury, or either this would get real ugly quick, or Ewers just wouldn't get his job back. 

Part of it is local coverage guys like Hamilton and Wadlington very obviously biting their tongues. There hasn't really been any open clamoring for Manning to take over the job. And it's really only recently that national guys like Eisen have started going "Hey wait a second... Ewers has looked very mediocre for most of the season now, and we're still not seeing Manning. WTF?". So, in that respect, good job everyone. 

But we're in win or go home mode now. The QB who gives us the best chance to win needs to be on the field. Just like every other position. Like someone said above, I almost expect Arch to take the last snap of our season, whenever that is. 

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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Here are my random thoughts this morning, if anyone cares. I actually think Sark has done a great job of not turning this into a full blown Applewhite/Simms nightmare. I said leaving the spring game that Ewers better ball the fuck out and not miss any time due to injury, or either this would get real ugly quick, or Ewers just wouldn't get his job back. 

Part of it is local coverage guys like Hamilton and Wadlington very obviously biting their tongues. There hasn't really been any open clamoring for Manning to take over the job. And it's really only recently that national guys like Eisen have started going "Hey wait a second... Ewers has looked very mediocre for most of the season now, and we're still not seeing Manning. WTF?". So, in that respect, good job everyone. 

But we're in win or go home mode now. The QB who gives us the best chance to win needs to be on the field. Just like every other position. Like someone said above, I almost expect Arch to take the last snap of our season, whenever that is. 

I think anything else would be criminal unless Quinn blows everyone out and is in victory for the next 4 games. 

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16 hours ago, Alien Octopus said:

Every game we won with him at QB you could say we won because he played.  Why are you guys not shitting all over Golden for his multi-drop passes, one in particular in the endzone? How about Bond blowing routes? Team game. Pretty sure that no-look pass he threw and the pass to Blue in the aggy game were pretty badass.

I think Texas has at least 11 wins this season with either QB. People can mention Michigan or Florida, but I don’t see Texas losing either game with Arch in those games. The defense dominated both games. Margin of victory might have been different, but not the results. You could say the same for Ark and A&M game. Those might have been an easier wins with Arch. That is probably why this thread will never end 

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16 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Here are my random thoughts this morning, if anyone cares. I actually think Sark has done a great job of not turning this into a full blown Applewhite/Simms nightmare. I said leaving the spring game that Ewers better ball the fuck out and not miss any time due to injury, or either this would get real ugly quick, or Ewers just wouldn't get his job back. 

Part of it is local coverage guys like Hamilton and Wadlington very obviously biting their tongues. There hasn't really been any open clamoring for Manning to take over the job. And it's really only recently that national guys like Eisen have started going "Hey wait a second... Ewers has looked very mediocre for most of the season now, and we're still not seeing Manning. WTF?". So, in that respect, good job everyone. 

But we're in win or go home mode now. The QB who gives us the best chance to win needs to be on the field. Just like every other position. Like someone said above, I almost expect Arch to take the last snap of our season, whenever that is. 

I cannot recall any game where the Longhorns were behind and Quinn Ewers did anything clutch to win it.

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5 hours ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

This coming from a poster who is a well below average person, it makes sense you’d be against mediocrity. After all, it’s unattainable for you.

Only a lowlife like you would resort to personal attacks against someone you have never met or known in real life. Prove me you're smarter or more accomplished than me or take your personal attack bullshit to the recruiting board where a few of you thrive on attacking folks who don't follow recruiting as closely. People who have under achieved in their life tend to project on social media. And don't make me post my nursing paystubb!

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6 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think anything else would be criminal unless Quinn blows everyone out and is in victory for the next 4 games. 

This is the take many of us have had. The part that I - and I am not alone - think has not been handled well, is giving Arch enough snaps. We all get it, that the important issue is winning this game, now. As long as it has worked so far - other than the CCG - we can live with it. I think we'll see Arch sooner rather than later unless Quinn returns to Meatchicken form. It wouldn't surprise me, if Quinn can't put us in the end zone on the first possession or two, to see Arch on the field the next trip into Red.

Regardless, the point now is that we're in "do or die" mode, so the only real "QB Controversy" left to worry about is "Why the Fuck didn't he go to Arch earlier?" We have the reasoning here, and I think Sark has done a great job of seeing and working toward the Big Picture, but he still needs to be able to push that out of the way and concentrate on winning this game, right here, right now. End-game UGa CCG and end-game UDub Playoff were too similar, and it damn sure shouldn't happen again... not this Clemson game nor the next one(s) if we get there.

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IIRC, Gilbert got booed against BYU in 2011.  70+ year old lady 2 rows in front of me was booing about as loudly as  anyone. 
I expressed, to no one in particular, but perhaps to the person I was with, "C'mon, this is not necessary.  He knows he's struggling." 
70+ year old lady turns to me and says, "If we do not boo him, Mack will leave him in."  I told her that Mack has a close-up of what we are watching - or something like that. 
A few plays later, he was removed for David Ash.  She turns to me and yells, "See!  Told ya so!"
Ok, wow.  SMH

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3 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I cannot recall any game where the Longhorns were behind and Quinn Ewers did anything clutch to win it.

OU last year? You could probably also count Alabama last year (down entering 4th). Iowa State td to go ahead late in 2022? 

We just haven't been behind a lot. 

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58 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Pass was slightly off to the inside and touch under thrown (obviously looking with a critical eye). My general view was it was good offense vs good coverage. Defender didn’t hit the ball, but he had his arm between Golden’s arms and body. Not sure he doesn’t make a play to break it up, if Golden grabs it. I get people calling it a drop, but it is on that line to me. More a contested catch situation that could go either way. I can’t remember another throw that you would consider a drop for Golden 

Yeah, that isn't a drop. It is a failure to capitalize on an opportunity and make a play. But it isn't a drop. 

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2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

OU last year? You could probably also count Alabama last year (down entering 4th). Iowa State td to go ahead late in 2022? 

We just haven't been behind a lot. 

OU last year is actually a good example of the point I was making. Thanks

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6 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

OU last year? You could probably also count Alabama last year (down entering 4th). Iowa State td to go ahead late in 2022? 

We just haven't been behind a lot. 

Don't quote me on this, but I think the stat I saw was that Ewers is 1-5 when either tied or trailing at halftime. 

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16 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

OU last year is actually a good example of the point I was making. Thanks

Really unfortunate our defense couldn't hold up for 1:17 to win the game. In some ways, Sark teams have felt like a mirror universe of Mack's teams. We win games by a couple scores and generally lead the whole time and dont get blown out. But we rarely seem clutch in the truly close games. Mack would get blown out by OU, but his teams were fucking clutch in tight games. 

Be interesting to see if this changes post Quinn. 

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This offense not being in rhythm has just become the norm at this point. 

Everyone points to the Florida game as an example where our offense and Quinn looked great, but go watch that game again. The results/stats are awesome, but it was all just kinda ugly.  Quinn throws a good deep ball to Moore, dropped. Same series, Quinn misses an open Moore for a big gain. Later Moore dropped another great deep ball for a TD.  We can't convert the easy stuff, but make big plays on short  passes that broke free for huge gains. It helped that UF overall really seemed to lay down that day. 

Quinn racked up a lot of yards and we were up 49-0 early 3rd quarter. But the offense still looked disjointed.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

Pass was slightly off to the inside and touch under thrown (obviously looking with a critical eye). My general view was it was good offense vs good coverage. Defender didn’t hit the ball, but he had his arm between Golden’s arms and body. Not sure he doesn’t make a play to break it up, if Golden grabs it. I get people calling it a drop, but it is on that line to me. More a contested catch situation that could go either way. I can’t remember another throw that you would consider a drop for Golden 

Agree.

Just watched it again.  Also that other drop may have been the early tip.  That’s inconsequential.

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2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

This offense not being in rhythm has just become the norm at this point. 

Everyone points to the Florida game as an example where our offense and Quinn looked great, but go watch that game again. The results/stats are awesome, but it was all just kinda ugly.  Quinn throws a good deep ball to Moore, dropped. Same series, Quinn misses an open Moore for a big gain. Later Moore dropped another great deep ball for a TD.  We can't convert the easy stuff, but make big plays on short  passes that broke free for huge gains. It helped that UF overall really seemed to lay down that day. 

Quinn racked up a lot of yards and we were up 49-0 early 3rd quarter. But the offense still looked disjointed.

 

 

 

And that's why I said what I said. Moore drops a lot of balls and doesn't run crisp routes. You can see why he hasn't been on the field up until now. He has all the physical tools though. Just a lot of mental lapses. When you combine that with how Bond looks right now you can see how I said we aren't that great on offense right now. We have a single receiver we can depend on, a solid TE, and RBs who cannot make their own hay.

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2 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Agree.

Just watched it again.  Also that other drop may have been the early tip.  That’s inconsequential.

If they call a tipped pass a drop, that is really harsh..

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Just now, Thatguy said:

And that's why I said what I said. Moore drops a lot of balls and doesn't run crisp routes. You can see why he hasn't been on the field up until now. He has all the physical tools though. Just a lot of mental lapses. When you combine that with how Bond looks right now you can see how I said we aren't that great on offense right now. We have a single receiver we can depend on, a solid TE, and RBs who cannot make their own hay.

Moore had 9/114 and our only TD vs. Georgia. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

And that's why I said what I said. Moore drops a lot of balls and doesn't run crisp routes. You can see why he hasn't been on the field up until now. He has all the physical tools though. Just a lot of mental lapses. When you combine that with how Bond looks right now you can see how I said we aren't that great on offense right now. We have a single receiver we can depend on, a solid TE, and RBs who cannot make their own hay.

So Quinn should step up even more and try to make better throws and better plays if all this is the case.

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10 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

And that's why I said what I said. Moore drops a lot of balls and doesn't run crisp routes. You can see why he hasn't been on the field up until now. He has all the physical tools though. Just a lot of mental lapses. When you combine that with how Bond looks right now you can see how I said we aren't that great on offense right now. We have a single receiver we can depend on, a solid TE, and RBs who cannot make their own hay.

Moore has been the starter since the opening game. He had been very good catching the ball, until Florida game. He had a bad drop in the Georgia game. Probably one of the few that ended a drive or wasn’t overcome. He also made a great move to break a short throw for a TD in this game. I have not heard anyone claim he is a bad route runner or seen anything from him to believe that,  outside the amazingly tired debate over the missed opportunity in the Redzone vs Georgia here. 

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12 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Really unfortunate our defense couldn't hold up for 1:17 to win the game. In some ways, Sark teams have felt like a mirror universe of Mack's teams. We win games by a couple scores and generally lead the whole time and dont get blown out. But we rarely seem clutch in the truly close games. Mack would get blown out by OU, but his teams were fucking clutch in tight games. 

Be interesting to see if this changes post Quinn. 

We were 1 first down from finishing that OU game.  The offense didn’t completely finish it.

Same with Bama and Card.  One more first down and we likely win.  Assuming the FG is good.

Fast forward to KState with Murphy.  Similar.  We get down and settle for a FG.  There was more time left here, but it was 4Q.

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So Quinn should step up even more and try to make better throws and better plays if all this is the case.

 

1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

Moore has been the starter since the opening game. He had been very good catching the ball, until Florida game. He had a bad drop in the Georgia game. Probably one of the few that ended a drive or wasn’t overcome 

Everyone has to make the plays that are there to make. However here on the Surl when a receiver doesn't make a play we talk about the QB. Arch throws a slot fade to the inside and Cook has to make a play to go get it. "Woohoo. Look at that ball Arch threw!" Quinn throws a ball inside that goes straight through Golden's hands. "Quinn needs to throw that ball a foot right and two feet deeper. Quinn throws two perfect balls up the sideline to Golden=crickets. Y'all are some weirdos.

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8 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

If they call a tipped pass a drop, that is really harsh..

There could be another but like you said I don’t remember it.  He clearly had it in his hands on it and it went to replay before being called incomplete.

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3 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

We were 1 first down from finishing that OU game.  The offense didn’t completely finish it.

Same with Bama and Card.  One more first down and we likely win.  Assuming the FG is good.

Fast forward to KState with Murphy.  Similar.  We get down and settle for a FG.  There was more time left here, but it was 4Q.

Or. Now here me out. Don't let the opposing offense drive the entire field in a minute and score a TD.

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3 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Or. Now here me out. Don't let the opposing offense drive the entire field in a minute and score a TD.

And at what point did I say they should have allowed the opponent to score?

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1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

I think the defense has earned a few mulligans the last couple of years.  

We ARE talking about last year. Specifically the OU game and the last minute of it. Last year we couldn't win on the edge and it caught up to us vs OU and Washington. This year the two games we lost we couldn't run the football.

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2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

We ARE talking about last year. Specifically the OU game and the last minute of it. Last year we couldn't win on the edge and it caught up to us vs OU and Washington. This year the two games we lost we couldn't run the football.

Come on. Lots of things went wrong vs OU last year. You can start with turnovers and pass defense. You one of the least impartial people on here, when it comes to responsibility for losses. 
 

You- MSNBC

BO&W- Fox News 

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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Come on. Lots of things went wrong vs OU last year. You can start with turnovers and pass defense. You one of the least impartial people on here, when it comes to responsibility for losses 

We didn’t have substantial pressure either.  The big 28 yarder on the final OU drive was in part due to losing pass rush integrity.  It’s pretty much always a lot of things.

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I'm not saying Quinn is the ONLY reason for getting beat by Dillon Gabriel in 2023.

I am saying he can't be counted on to lead the team to a come from behind win. Sugar Bowl out front should have told ya.

(Yes, I know we was one play away from advancing. Moral victories are for aggy and they're not our standard)

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8 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Come on. Lots of things went wrong vs OU last year. You can start with turnovers and pass defense. You one of the least impartial people on here, when it comes to responsibility for losses. 

The thing is, with 77 seconds left, and no time-outs, OU went 75 yards in what, five? plays and scored to win. I wouldn't say that the D lost that game, but they coulda won it and didn't. Overall, a team and coaching effort with plenty of blame to go around, not on any specific player or coach.

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13 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

We didn’t have substantial pressure either.  The big 28 yarder on the final OU drive was in part due to losing pass rush integrity.  It’s pretty much always a lot of things.

If I recall there were 2-3 busted coverages on that series alone, including the final TD.. 

this what fans do, they place blame most based on the the last 5 minutes of the game and forget the 100+ plays prior that could have changed the results 

 

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25 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

We didn’t have substantial pressure either.  The big 28 yarder on the final OU drive was in part due to losing pass rush integrity.  It’s pretty much always a lot of things.

I would bet the pressure numbers were solid, but typical for last year didn’t finish. I know pass rushing lane integrity was a massive issue. Red Zone obviously another one. Like most games you can probably look at 3-4 factors that could have changed the results 

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24 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I'm not saying Quinn is the ONLY reason for getting beat by Dillon Gabriel in 2023.

I am saying he can't be counted on to lead the team to a come from behind win. Sugar Bowl out front should have told ya.

(Yes, I know we was one play away from advancing. Moral victories are for aggy and they're not our standard)

But he did against OU. Defense let us down there. 

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Just now, Codaxx said:

I would bet the pressure numbers were solid, but typical for last year didn’t finish. I know pass rushing lane integrity was a massive issue. Red Zone obviously another one. Like most games you can probably look at 3-4 factors that could have changed the results 

IDK if I trust PFF for pressures/pressure rate. 

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1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

I cannot recall any game where the Longhorns were behind and Quinn Ewers did anything clutch to win it.

We’ve barely been behind this year outside of Georgia. 

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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

IDK if I trust PFF for pressures/pressure rate. 

Agree, but Gabriel taking off was arguably the biggest issue for the defense in that game 

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4 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

We lost. And he knew our secondary was weak that year. Yes, he took a late game lead, but he also left too much time on the clock.

I mean, come on. Defense holds for barely over a minute, and that is easily a game Quinn made clutch plays to bring us back and win. This ridiculousness of ignoring all the good play Quinn gives us has to stop. A QB can't win a game by himself. Someone else has to step up. Quinn was the best part of our offense against Georgia and y'all are doing nothing but rag on him and excusing the rest of the team. Our failures in close games are a team effort. 

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Really unfortunate our defense couldn't hold up for 1:17 to win the game. In some ways, Sark teams have felt like a mirror universe of Mack's teams. We win games by a couple scores and generally lead the whole time and dont get blown out. But we rarely seem clutch in the truly close games. Mack would get blown out by OU, but his teams were fucking clutch in tight games. 
Be interesting to see if this changes post Quinn. 

Mack generally had way more talent than anyone other than Ou.
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2 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Mack generally had way more talent than anyone other than Ou.

Maybe. But so do we now. Clutchness is a thing. And Mack's teams had a knack for it. 

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6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Uhhh . . . lots of things went wrong against UGA (twice) this year?

UHH, no shit. How many times did I say losing last weekend wasn’t the fault of a single player? 

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2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

UHH, no shit. How many times did I say losing last weekend wasn’t the fault of a single player? 

I don't know.  I was keeping a spreadsheet but my stupid Windows 10 box crashed and I lost it.

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On 12/13/2024 at 2:41 PM, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I don't think I would be as frustrated as I am if the hype surrounding him hadn't been as high as it was. 

 

Yeah, I personally hate the "rating system". Giving him a perfect 1.000 was crazy, especially after he had been injured since his soph/Jr year in HS. I don't think anyone should get a perfect rating, even Manning. Vince fif, too, but what it he didn't meet expectations? We would all be talking about the what if with him, just like we did Simms (whom I personally thought did fine). It puts too much pressure on these kids to succeed. 
 

Look how many stupid lists there are for guys who didn't pan out in college on YouTube. It's a stupid amount. "Guy was a top ten 5 star player who didn't live up to expectations". Yeah. OK. That shit happens. Stop making videos about it. There's hit or miss every year. 
 

It's not Quinn's fault they stupidly rated him. 

Hell, Trevor Lawrence wad rated a. 101, which I didn't know was possible until recently. 

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