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Posted
Just now, TwiceHorn said:

As a long time watcher, its usually the passing that makes the setting shitty, rather than the setting being shitty itself.

Oh, absolutely. I've said it a million times. 'No pass, no play'.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yes. Some matches it gets done in the middle of the set (the teen points) and sometimes it’s in the 20s / red zone for Devin’s block to be a factor in closing out a match 

It’s not even a 5-2, it’s just a double sub for 3 rotations for like a small stretch of a set. It’s not consistently every time Ella goes into the back row. Only sometimes 

That's what I thought. I was watching, trying to determine a pattern, but couldn't. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, wood said:

That's what I thought. I was watching, trying to determine a pattern, but couldn't. 

Either Elliot is trying out different times to use it, or it’s a hunch feeling for him 

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Well, that explains why it’s hard to identify. 
 

Can someone explain the weird 2-for-1 sub w/ the libero and a big/little? Don’t think I’ve ever seen that before. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Mittens said:

Well, that explains why it’s hard to identify. 
 

Can someone explain the weird 2-for-1 sub w/ the libero and a big/little? Don’t think I’ve ever seen that before. 

What do you mean?

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I may have to watch a replay and get some screenshots. I *think* this is what I saw:

 

Several times today, the libero would come to the sideline and would be met by 16 and a big (55?), then 16 would come on, and the L and 55 would go to the bench.

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Well 16 is Anja, who is a serving specialist and DS.  And 55 is Bunton, who doesn’t play backrow. Perhaps it is when Halter’s position rotates to the front and she comes off and Bunton’s position rotates to the back and she is replaced by her DS, who is Anja 

I think it’s bc Halter is better playing more middle back and Gary is better at left back. Think it makes our rotations kind of funky?

 

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Posted
54 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Well 16 is Anja, who is a serving specialist and DS.  And 55 is Bunton, who doesn’t play backrow. Perhaps it is when Halter’s position rotates to the front and she comes off and Bunton’s position rotates to the back and she is replaced by her DS, who is Anja 

I think it’s bc Halter is better playing more middle back and Gary is better at left back. Think it makes our rotations kind of funky?

 

I’ve decided that volleyball is more complicated than chess!

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Posted
20 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

This non-con schedule gives the team no time to celebrate a big win. 
Top 3 matchup in Ft Worth on Wednesday. 
#2 Texas v. #3 Louisville. 

Should be a home court advantage.

Posted
12 hours ago, wood said:

That was absolutely the touch of the match for me. Fantastic.

Only bc it’s amazing to watch 

 

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Posted
12 hours ago, Mittens said:

Well, that explains why it’s hard to identify. 
 

Can someone explain the weird 2-for-1 sub w/ the libero and a big/little? Don’t think I’ve ever seen that before. 

It is just a serving sub for the Middle Blocker.   So once every rotation the libero has to come off so one MB can serve.   They are putting Anja in to serve, then after the rotation she has to go back out for the middle to go to the back row then right after the substitution the MB gets replaced by the libero again. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Hornsbay22 said:

It is just a serving sub for the Middle Blocker.   So once every rotation the libero has to come off so one MB can serve.   They are putting Anja in to serve, then after the rotation she has to go back out for the middle to go to the back row then right after the substitution the MB gets replaced by the libero again. 

So the L comes off for the MB, who is swapped for 16, and 16 goes in to serve in the MB slot.  And they are all hanging out at the sideline so the table can record/approve the sub?  

Posted
5 minutes ago, Mittens said:

So the L comes off for the MB, who is swapped for 16, and 16 goes in to serve in the MB slot.  And they are all hanging out at the sideline so the table can record/approve the sub?  

Yes, the scorer has to see the MB come back on for her rotation, and the DS the sub in for her to serve

You don't want to half-ass those rotations/subs or you get called for it on the serve and its a free point for the other team (out of rotation) 

Posted

Also re: the Gary one-armed dig above - 

Will be sad to see Halter go (😭O), but Gary could be the starting libero today for any team in the country.  We won't see a big drop off when Halter graduates and Gary has the black jersey next year. 

Krueger will likely be the full-time DS in 2026, in preparation for her to to be starting libero in 2027 as a RS SO.  Assuming we don't pluck a starting caliber libero/DS out of the portal next year with multiple years of eligibility 

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OK, follow up question:  

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So once every rotation the libero has to come off so one MB can serve.

I don't understand this part.  Why can't the L stay on and serve?  I know we see L serving all the time, so what is the rule that applies here?

 

(I really should know all this, as my capstone coaching course was volleyball, but it was also 30 years ago)

Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Mittens said:

OK, follow up question:  

I don't understand this part.  Why can't the L stay on and serve?  I know we see L serving all the time, so what is the rule that applies here?

 

(I really should know all this, as my capstone coaching course was volleyball, but it was also 30 years ago)

The L is a back row player only. When her position rotates to the front row and subsequently gets replaced, she has to sit one rally until she can come back in to replace and play her back row rotations. Hence the serving sub instead being a DS

The exception would be a Mb who serves, like O’Neal, who plays 1 back row rotation. Believe Ames also served and played 1 rotation in the back at times last year 

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Posted

I don't know that that exactly works in my head, but it works enough.  Like I said, it usually takes me til mid-season to re-recognize the patterns and understand the rotations again.  

Posted

The L can sub in for any back row player but once you sub out, you have to sit out a rally. A lot of teams are experimenting with the two L system, where one serves and then subs out for one to do serve receive.

You have to be pretty on top of your subs so you don’t run out. I remember a match last year where Nebraska’s L had to play her front row rotations because they ran out of subs lol 

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