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The 2010s: Texas Longhorns' all-decade team

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1 hour ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

So off the top of my head our 2000s 2nd team would something like:

 

QB: Colt McCoy

RB: Chris Ogbonaya

      Selvin Young

OL: (some mixture of)

       David Snow

       Kasey Studdard

       Adam Ulatoski

       Derek Dockery

       Tony Hills

TE: Bo Scaife/Jermichael Finley

WR: Mike Davis

        Limas Sweed

 

DL: Tim Crowder/Larry Dibbles

       Frank Okam/Derek Lokey

       Rodrique Wright/Roy Miller

       Brian Robison      

LB: Scott Derry

      Aaron Harris

      Robert Killebrew

CB: Cedric Griffin

       Aaron Williams/Terrell Brown

S:   Michael Griffin

      Blake Gideon

K: Hunter Lawrence 

P: I have no fucking idea

 

This team would beat the fight out of 2010 first team

Our all 2000s second team would easily win and would have more talent than your list when you factor in the early 2000s players.  Our 1st team and 2nd team would look something like this:

1st Team

QB - VY

RB - Jamaal Charles

WR - Roy Williams, Shipley, Quan

TE - David Thomas

LT - Leonard Davis

LG - Derrick Dockery

C - Lyle Sendlein

RG - Justin Blalock (played guard one year)

RT - Mike Williams

DE - Orakpo

DE - Redding

DT - Casey Hampton

DT - Shaun Rogers

LB - Derrick Johnson, Muckelroy, DD Lewis

CB - Jammer, Ross

S - Earl Thomas, Huff
 

2nd Team

QB - Colt 

RB - Cedric Benson

WR - Limas Sweed, Ramonce Taylor, BJ Johnson

TE - Scaife or Finley

LT - Jonathan Scott

LG - Kasey Studdard

C - Chris Hall?  (Lol, McWhorter recruiting)

RG - Will Allen

RT - Tony Hills
 

DE - Kindle

DE - Crowder/Robison

DT - Marcus Tubbs / Roy Miller

DT - Lamarr Houston

LB - Aaron Harris and ... here is where it gets dicey with some combo of young Keenan Robinson, Reed Boyd, Killebrew ... whatever

CB - Aaron Williams, Cedric Griffin / Tarell Brown / Rod Babers 

S - Michael Griffin, Vasher

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12 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Our all 2000s second team would easily win and would have more talent than your list when you factor in the early 2000s players.  Our 1st team and 2nd team would look something like this:

1st Team

QB - VY

RB - Jamaal Charles

WR - Roy Williams, Shipley, Quan

TE - David Thomas

LT - Leonard Davis

LG - Derrick Dockery

C - Lyle Sendlein

RG - Justin Blalock (played guard one year)

RT - Mike Williams

DE - Orakpo

DE - Redding

DT - Casey Hampton

DT - Shaun Rogers

LB - Derrick Johnson, Muckelroy, DD Lewis

CB - Jammer, Ross

S - Earl Thomas, Huff
 

2nd Team

QB - Colt 

RB - Cedric Benson

WR - Limas Sweed, Ramonce Taylor, BJ Johnson

TE - Scaife or Finley

LT - Jonathan Scott

LG - Kasey Studdard

C - Chris Hall?  (Lol, McWhorter recruiting)

RG - Will Allen

RT - Tony Hills
 

DE - Kindle

DE - Crowder/Robison

DT - Marcus Tubbs / Roy Miller

DT - Lamarr Houston

LB - Aaron Harris and ... here is where it gets dicey with some combo of young Keenan Robinson, Reed Boyd, Killebrew ... whatever

CB - Aaron Williams, Cedric Griffin / Tarell Brown / Rod Babers 

S - Michael Griffin, Vasher

Give me potentially Robison and Kindle over Redding. Your list is so much better than the other guys list. 

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Mack: 30-22*

Charlie: 16-21

Tom: 24-15**

*loss to Bama in the title game was in 2010
**pending Alamo Bowl

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Our all 2000s second team would easily win and would have more talent than your list when you factor in the early 2000s players.  Our 1st team and 2nd team would look something like this:
1st Team
QB - VY
RB - Jamaal Charles
WR - Roy Williams, Shipley, Quan
TE - David Thomas
LT - Leonard Davis
LG - Derrick Dockery
C - Lyle Sendlein
RG - Justin Blalock (played guard one year)
RT - Mike Williams
DE - Orakpo
DE - Redding
DT - Casey Hampton
DT - Shaun Rogers
LB - Derrick Johnson, Muckelroy, DD Lewis
CB - Jammer, Ross
S - Earl Thomas, Huff
 
2nd Team
QB - Colt 
RB - Cedric Benson
WR - Limas Sweed, Ramonce Taylor, BJ Johnson
TE - Scaife or Finley
LT - Jonathan Scott
LG - Kasey Studdard
C - Chris Hall?  (Lol, McWhorter recruiting)
RG - Will Allen
RT - Tony Hills
 
DE - Kindle
DE - Crowder/Robison
DT - Marcus Tubbs / Roy Miller
DT - Lamarr Houston
LB - Aaron Harris and ... here is where it gets dicey with some combo of young Keenan Robinson, Reed Boyd, Killebrew ... whatever
CB - Aaron Williams, Cedric Griffin / Tarell Brown / Rod Babers 
S - Michael Griffin, Vasher

Finley definitely over Scaife

Benson over Charles for 1st team

I’d also put Aaron Harris first team as he’s the best MLB we’ve had since 2000

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58 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

I’d also put Aaron Harris first team as he’s the best MLB we’ve had since 2000

what do you have against DJ?

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8 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

DJ could play outside like he did for us?

I thought we shifted him inside before his senior year? Maybe I'm remembering wrong

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4 hours ago, Js1 said:

Mack: 30-22*

Charlie: 16-21

Tom: 24-15**

*loss to Bama in the title game was in 2010
**pending Alamo Bowl

So this decade our program was 70-58

.546%

with 1 game to play

 

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And you may ask yourself, "Where is that can't miss five-star recruit?"
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful trophy"
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my championship-winning coach"

Same as it ever was, same as it ever was, same as it ever was

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Nothing but a bunch of talking heads on here who have no true sense of X’s and O’S.  No idea what you’re discussing, Byrne this thread down.  Leave the real football talk to us former all stars.  

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I mean, I knew that this was a bad decade. Looking at this all-decade team is fucking awful, and highlights just how bad the period was in Texas football.

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On 12/29/2019 at 12:35 PM, Surly Bevo said:

I looked at those choices for All-Decade offensive line.  Ground fucking zero of our suck right there.

My first thought upon reading that list; Jesus Fuck what a miserable decade...

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7 hours ago, BayouBill said:

We would kick the SHIT out of the football though.

No shit; if you could sub out the actual defense from this decade with our all-80s defense we would win a fuckton of 18-0 games....

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On 12/29/2019 at 10:50 PM, IDIOTsavant said:

This All Decade Team would be a 13 point dog to the '05 team....and Vince would cover.

More like a 20 point dog. That offense is ass compared to 05. That defense is subpar compared to 05. Unless you think Michael Dickson alone is enough to keep the game close through punts downed at the 2 you'll be disappointed.

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27 minutes ago, TheFlyingBoat said:

More like a 20 point dog. That offense is ass compared to 05. That defense is subpar compared to 05. Unless you think Michael Dickson alone is enough to keep the game close through punts downed at the 2 you'll be disappointed.

I was bored and decided to look at what a 2000s team would look like:

 

OFFENSE

 

QB: Vince Young

 

RB: Jamaal Charles

 

RB: Cedric Benson

 

WR: Jordan Shipley

 

WR: Roy Williams

 

TE: David Thomas

 

OL: Justin Blalock

 

OL: Jonathan Scott

 

OL: Derrick Dockery

 

OL: Leonard Davis

 

OL: Mike Williams 

 

DEFENSE

 

DL: Brian Orakpo

 

DL: Cory Redding

 

DL: Shaun Rogers

 

DL: Casey Hampton

 

LB: Sergio Kindle

 

LB: Derrick Johnson

 

DB: Earl Thomas

 

DB: Michael Huff

 

DB: Nathan Vasher

 

DB: Aaron Ross

 

DB: Michael Griffin 

 

P: Richmond McGee

 

K: Justin Tucker 

 

KR: Quan Cosby

 

 

Yes to make our DB corps you either need to make the pro bowl or win the Thorpe award. Every single OL was not just an All-American but a consensus one. The only part of this line up that isn't incredible is punter.

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20 hours ago, Js1 said:

Tucker wasn’t our FG kicker until 2010 and 2011. 

Yeah idk why I thought he kicked for us in 09. Always forget it was Hunter Lawrence. Swap him in

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Honestly, I think we can piece together a decent defense from the 2010 teams. Many of these players could have had stellar college careers if it wasn't for the abysmal coaching (Diaz, Bedford, TO).

DL - Malcom Brown / Jackson Jeffcoat / Poona Ford / Alex Okafor / Chris Whaley 

Honorable Mention - Cedrick Reed / Kheeston Randall / Charles Omenihu

 

LB* - Keenan Robinson / Jordan Hicks / Steve Edmond(post Manny)

Honorable Mention - Malik Jefferson / Gary Johnson / Peter Jinkens (lol wut)

 

DB - Quandre Diggs / Carrington Byndum / Kenny Vaccaro / Adrian Phillips / Holton Hill / DeShon Elliott

Honorable Mention - Jason Hall / Brandon Jones

 

*Purposefully omitted a certain LB because he seems like a sack of shit.

Edited by USNALonghorn

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InsideTexas: The people's 2010s All-decade team vs the Mod's 2010s All-decade team

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The votes were cast, counted, and then recanvassed after an anonymous complaint from ESPN...but the people have spoken. Here were your selections for the Texas All-decade team. The years listed are the ones in which the players were starters or had major roles on the team over the course of the 2010s.

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You also chose Marquise Goodwin as the kick returner. The top 10 biggest vote winners per vote percentage within their group were, in order:

Michael Dickson: 99.6%
Quandre Diggs: 97.4%
Justin Tucker: 97.2%
Kenny Vaccaro: 96.7%
Connor Williams: 96.1%
Sam Ehlinger: 94.6%
Malcom Brown: 92.8%
Devin Duvernay: 88.1%
Poona Ford: 84.9%
D'Onta Foreman: 84.2%

Dickson no. 1 was an easy call, the two most successful Longhorns of this horrible decade were probably both kickers. To me it's kinda surprising how high Diggs scored here. Diggs was a part of some bad defenses in between the very good 2011 and 2014 units, I'm guessing his professional success overrode any negative impressions from his time as a Longhorn and he definitely finished on a high note.

Kenny Vaccaro also did well here, as he should have. Vaccaro was dominant in Austin and often relegated Chykie Brown to the bench in 2010 because of his play at the nickel which bumped Aaron Williams outside. Ehlinger at 94.6% was a convincing win over the QB competition, especially when you consider that the non-kickers ahead of him were a part of ballots where you had multiple votes. Charlie Strong wishes we could know how a healthy Ash in 2014 might have stacked up here, Mack Brown wishes we knew the same about 2013.

Here was the process for choosing the five man secondary. We gave you three options for both safety and corner and chose the top two vote getters from each position, which went Diggs and Williams at corner and then Vaccaro and Elliott at safety. Then we chose the fifth DB by choosing between the third corner and third safety based on vote totals. Brandon Jones edged out Holton Hill after that calculation. Then we left Diggs at corner, where he played regularly in both 2011 and 2014, and slide Vaccaro down to nickel where he spent the vast majority of his time, creating a viable nickel lineup.

But now here are the right answers, courtesy of the Mods.

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Here are some of the big differences. David Snow is a somewhat forgotten hero of the early part of the decade. He was a good center on the forgettable 2010 offense and then Bryan Harsin moved him to left guard in 2011 to be the lead guard for the power run game they installed. Vahe was a solid contributor for four years but was never an All-B12 caliber performer.

Geoff Swaim got the nod over Andrew Beck because he was a savage blocker that was drafted by the Cowboys and had some teams questioning if he might be able to add weight and become a tackle. Had that seemed more viable he could have been drafted much higher. Go watch Texas' big wins in 2013 that somehow had them in position to win the B12 late in the year and you'll see Geoff Swaim clearing out the edge and neutralizing people like Eric Striker.

Over on defense, Charles Omenihu was a more versatile player than Alex Okafor and a similarly effective pass-rusher when allowed to go to work on the edge in 2018. Okafor's best season was in 2012 when he had 12.5 sacks, boosted by a ridiculous bowl game against a bad Oregon State RT and foolish Beaver emphasis on first down passing that gave up 4.5 sacks in a single game. Omenihu had 9.5 sacks as a senior in 2018 along with 18 TFL. If you want a strong side end opposite Jackson Jeffcoat you're definitely picking Omenihu over Okafor.

Malik Jefferson vs Keenan Robinson was a tough one, but Hicks already gives you a lot of what Robinson did well and if you want a player at MLB that is a non-issue in coverage and can make plays at the point of attack you want 2017 Malik Jefferson. Everyone really wanted 2018 Malik Jefferson, but alas for Texas it wasn't that kind of decade.

Quandre Diggs chimed in on Twitter with his picks for the All-decade secondary and it went: Diggs, Aaron Williams, Curtis Brown, DeShon Elliott, and Kenny Vaccaro. That'd probably be your most talented possible group and includes three different players that could match up at nickel, but it's not really the most representative of who served Texas best in the last decade. Williams only played 11 games for a wasted 2010 team (Brown played 12) while Carrington Byndom checked Justin Blackmon in man coverage and was a two-time All-B12 performer.

Elliott over Jones was tough but the original joker was generally put into positions to make the most of his talent whereas Jones got a single year (2018) where the D was built to suit him and the rest of the time he was a firefighter, moving around trying to save the defense from week to week.

Our secondary bumped Diggs inside to nickel and results in secondary that was more skilled in coverage than the people's secondary and yet still dominant in offering run support with Vaccaro and Elliott playing on the hash marks behind them. We'll concede though that Diggs' proposed lineup was the most talented and flexible you could build out of the available players. It just wasn't as good at capturing the 2010s.

Some final notes:

- Tip of the hat to Trey Hopkins, who played as a true freshman in 2010 and bounced outside to tackle at times as needed over the course of his career. If you could pick one OL from the 2010s to clone four times in order to fill out an entire OL you would definitely consider Hopkins...then you'd probably pick Connor Williams or Sam Cosmi.

- Choosing a second RB after D'Onta Foreman would be very difficult. The 2010s were the decade where Texas kept trying to establish their recruiting advantages over the rest of the league by bullying opponents with a power run game. It was a complete and total failure in that regard and that's reflected in the options at RB. Feel free to have that debate in the comments, it's a tough one.

- Every WR selected had his best season working out of the slot. You could play those three together because all of them were highly versatile and skilled but Texas moved them all inside to feed them the ball.

- It's kinda shocking that there were so many good options at LB since Texas had multiple seasons this decade where the defense tanked because they didn't have good LB play. Lots of boom/bust cycles at that position. In 2011 they had a pair of seniors and were a good unit, then they bombed until 2014 when they could play senior Steve Edmond and healthy, senior Jordan Hicks. Then they bombed again until they had junior Malik Jefferson and Gary Johnson in 2017...then they bombed again in 2018 and particularly 2019. On this front, 2020 looks like it could go hard in either direction pending how DeMarvion Overshown takes to the position.

- The 2000's All-decade team would put this group to great shame at most every position save for the secondary and the kickers.

Thoughts?

 

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