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Thought we could dedicate a thread to amp finds.

 

First, follow mrgunsngear on Facebook

Beware of basspro and cabelas.

 

Today, academy in cedar park is pretty loaded. As of right now (I’m looking at it):

9mm

9mm bulk packs

45 (lots)

45 bulk

300bo

5.56

380

308

 

Lots more.

 

 

 

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Only thing I've been stockpiling is 22lr right now.  Decent numbers of 45acp and assorted rifle rounds.  

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I watch MidwayUSA, luckygunner, SGAmmo and AmmoToGo daily to see what is in stock.  Last week, supplies were very limited with very few options for 9mm or .45 acp.  Yesterday, all had plenty of stock with prices from .21 to .35 per round.  Higher than before, but less than 2 weeks ago.  There is still plenty of demand out there.  I got a notification yesterday from MidwayUSA that they had S&B 124 grain 9mm ammo in 1000 round cases.  By the time I dicked around the yard, went to get drive thru lunch and back home, they were sold out.  

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LAXAmmo has some inventory - I've had good luck with them in the past as a back-up to my normal bulk source SGAmmo.

Their reloads are quality, as is their new production.

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If anyone wants to see some ballpark pricing from early March to gauge what kids of “deal” you are getting now vs. pre-‘rona crush- here’s an actual order with pricing that’s fairly representative of what pricing was at SGAmmo

Date: 03/08/2020 09:25 pm
Shipping Method: UPS
Total Order Weight: 134.9 lbs.
Products Subtotal:  $1,072.25
UPS: $68.00
Shipping Insurance: $10.72
Subtotal excluding taxes: $1,150.97
TX Tax Rate: $92.08
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Total for this Order:  $1,243.05


Products on order: 
10 x  50 Round Box - 38 Special 158 Grain SWC HP Prvi Partizan Handgun Line Ammo - PPH38SH - $124.90 ($12.49 each)  
SKU: PPH38SH - Box
 
1 x  1000 Round Case - 9mm Luger 115 Grain JHP Hollow Point Sellier Bellot Ammo - SB9C - $209.80 
SKU: SB9C - case
 
5 x  50 Round Box - 357 Mag 125 Grain SJSP Soft Point Ammo by Fiocchi - 357C - $89.75 ($17.95 each)  
SKU: Fio - 357C - box
 
4 x  50 Round Box - 327 Magnum Federal American Eagle 100 Grain Jacketed Soft Point Ammo - AE327 - $95.80 ($23.95 each)  
SKU: AE327-50-100gr
 
2 x  50 Round Box - 45 Long Colt Federal American Eagle 225 grain Jacketed Soft Point Ammo - AE45LC - $67.90 ($33.95 each)  
SKU: AE45LC
 
1 x  5000 Round Case - 22 LR Remington Thunderbolt 40 Grain Lead HV Bulk Pack Ammo - TB22B - $179.50 
SKU: TB22B - case
 
5 x  50 Round Box - 22 Cal Win Magnum 50 Grain JHP Federal Game Shok Ammo - 757 - $49.75($9.95 each)  
SKU: Fed - 757 - Box
 
1 x  500 Round Case - 223 Rem / 5.56x45 Steel Case Barnaul Mil-Spec 55 Grain Soft Point Ammo with Lacquer and Sealant - $114.90 
SKU: BMS-22355SP-case
 
1 x  500 Round Case - 223 Rem Golden Bear 62 Grain Hollow Point Ammo AG223HP - $139.95 
SKU: AG223HP
 

 

 

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And here is a pre-‘rona advertisement as an even better gauge 

*****not current pricing or stock*****
for use a a reference gauge only. 
 

 

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1000 Round Case - 9mm Luger 115 Grain FMJ Ammo by Magtech - 9A

$166.80 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 9mm Luger 115 Grain FMJ Steel Case Wolf Ammo Made By TCW

$123.80 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 9mm Luger 115 Grain FMJ RN Aluminum Federal Ammo - CAL9115100

$157.90 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 9mm Luger Speer Lawman 115 Grain TMJ Ammo - 53650

$172.80 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 9mm Luger Speer Lawman 124 grain TMJ Ammo 53616 or 53651

$183.80 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 9mm Luger Speer Lawman 147 grain TMJ Subsonic Ammo 53620

$189.80 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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900 Round Spam Can - 9mm Luger 115 grain FMJ Steel Case Red Army Standard Ammo - AM3267

$129.80 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 9mm NATO Ball 124 Grain FMJ - Sealed Cartridge by Magtech - 9NATO / 9BMIL

$199.00 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Rounds in Ammo Can - 9mm NATO 124 Grain Winchester Mil-Spec Ammo Q4318AC

$199.95 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Case - 9mm Luger +P 147 Grain Service Bonded Hollow Point Winchester Ranger Ammo - ZQ4463

$219.50 + $14.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Case - 9mm Luger 147 Grain Bonded Hollow Point Winchester Ranger Ammo For Sale - Z Q4392

$219.50 + $14.00 Shipping

 

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200 Round Case - 9mm Luger 147 Grain Elastomer Filled Nose Speer Gold Dot G2 Ammo - 24226

$164.90 + $12.00 Shipping

 

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1080 Round Can - .30 Cal M1 Carbine 110 Grain FMJ Ammo on Strippers and Bandoliers Korean Military Surplus

$368.55 + $25.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 223 Rem 55 Grain FMJ Brass Case Non-magnetic WOLF GOLD AR-15 Ammunition 

$262.90 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 5.56mm 62 Grain Green Tip - Federal American Eagle XM855CSF AR-15 Ammo Made by Lake City

$299.50 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 5.56 mm M193 55 grain FMJ Prvi Partizan Ammo - PPN5561B

$279.50 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 223 Rem 55 Grain FMJ Steel Case Tula Ammo

$163.80 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 5.56 mm Federal Lake City 55 Grain FMJ Ammo Loose Pack - XM193BK

$299.80 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 5.56mm 62 Grain FMJ Green Tip - American Eagle AR-15 Ammo Made by Federal - XM855BKF

$309.50 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Case - 5.56mm 77 Grain SMK OTM LR MOD-1 Razorcore IMI Ammo Made by Israel Military Industries

$335.00 + $14.00 Shipping

 

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200 Round Case - 223 Rem Speer Gold Dot 75 Grain GDSP Soft Point Ammo - 24469

$159.50 + $12.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ Ball M193 Wolf Gold Ammo Made in Taiwan - GWM193

$289.50 + $16.00 Shipping 

New option from Wolf, we were only able to get 10 cases from the first shipment but eventually there will be more. Made in the same factory as Wolf Gold 223 Rem ammo

 

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1000 Round Case - 5.56mm 62 Grain FMJ Ball M855 Wolf Gold Ammo Made in Taiwan - GM855

$299.50 + $16.00 Shipping

New option from Wolf, we were only able to get 10 cases from the first shipment but eventually there will be more. Made in the same factory as Wolf Gold 223 Rem ammo

 

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840 Round Can - 223 Rem 55 Grain FMJ-BT Ammo by PMC on AR15 Stripper Clips and Bandoliers in Ammo Can 

$299.52 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 Round Case - 45 Auto 230 Grain FMJ Sellier Bellot Brass Case Ammo - SB45A

$249.80 + $25.00 Shipping 

Last Chance at this price! Due to a price increase from S&B in the 2020 program I am going to raise $259/1000 on Monday February 3rd

 

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300 Round Plastic Can - Winchester 45 Auto 230 Grain FMJ Brass Case Ammo - WW45C

$94.95 + $14.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Case - 45 Auto Winchester 185 Grain FMJ Ammo - USA45A

$144.90 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Case - 45 Auto 230 Grain FMJ Steel Case Wolf Ammo Made By TCW

$104.90 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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200 Rounds - 45 Auto 230 Grain Gold Dot Hollow Point GDHP Short Barrel Personal Protection Ammo - 23975

$149.50 + $12.00 Shipping

 

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200 Round Case - 45 Auto +P 230 Grain Gold Dot G2 Speer Ammo - 24256

$184.90 + $12.00 Shipping

 

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200 Round Can - 300 Blackout 110 Grain V-Max Hornady Ammo - 80876

$109.50 + $12.00 Shipping 

Only 76 cans left and no solid ETA on more of this ammo, I stockpiled a large quantity of this ammo a while back but have run it down to the last skid. There may be spotty supply on this load in the months ahead. Personally I really liked this product because it gave the customer a chance for American made 300 Blackout ammo with a premium expanding projectile at a price that was competitive with import FMJ options.

 

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200 Round Plastic Can - 300 Blackout 125 Grain Hollow Point Loose Hornady Ammo - 80899

$109.95 + $12.00 Shipping

Only 117 cans left and no solid ETA on more of this ammo, I stockpiled a large quantity of this ammo a while back but have run it down to the last skid. There may be spotty supply on this load in the months ahead

 

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1000 Round Case - 300 AAC Blackout 200 Grain SUBSONIC FMJ Ammo by Sellier Bellot - SB300BLKSUBA

$479.50 + $25.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Brick - 5.7x28 27 grain SS198LF Lead Free Cartridge High Performance Ammo 10700022

$279.50 + $12.00 Shipping 

Get it while it is in stock ! We expect spotty supplies on this load and 5.7x28 in general

 

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1224 Round Spam Can - 7.62x25 86 Grain FMJ Ball Tokarev Ammo Made in Romania

$329.50 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Case - 7.62x25 Tokarev 85 Grain FMJ Prvi Partizan New Non-Corrosive Ammo PPH7TF

$159.50 + $14.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Case - 44 Magnum 240 Grain JHP Hollow Point Prvi Partizan Ammo PPH44MH

$229.50 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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1000 round case - 40 cal SW Speer Lawman 180 grain TMJ ammo - 53652

$239.80 + $22.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Can - 40 Cal SW 165 Grain FMJ Winchester Ammo Packed in a M19A1 Metal Can - USA40AC

$157.95 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Case - 40 SW 180 Grain Bonded Hollow Point Winchester Ranger Service Ammo - ZQ4455

$189.50 + $14.00 Shipping 

IMO this is one of the best JHP 40 cal options ever, and its priced to be liquidated. Check out the independent test video by 'Buffman Range' posted on the product page.

 

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500 Round Case - 38 Special 158 Grain SWC HP Prvi Partizan Handgun Line Ammo - PPH38SH

$124.90 + $14.00 Shipping

 

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Special Purchase - 500 Round Case - 38 Special 110 Grain Winchester Silvertip JHP Hollow Point Ammo - X38S9HP

$169.50 + $14.00 Shipping

 

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5250 Round Case - .22 Long Rifle 36 Grain High Velocity Copper Plated Hollow Point Federal Ammo - 745

$179.50 + $22.00 Shipping

 

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5000 Round Case - 22 LR CCI Standard Velocity 40 Grain Lead Bullet Ammo 0035

$219.50 + $22.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Can - 30-06 Springfield FMJ 150 grain Prvi Partizan M1 Garand Ammo PP3006GMC

$299.50 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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460 Round Can - Surplus 7.62x51 Ammo -147 Grain FMJ M80 Ball - Made by PMC in South Korea 1980s

$209.07 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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560 Round Can - 7.62x51mm 150 Grain FMJ Swiss Military Ball Ammo Made in Switzerland by Saltech

$279.72 + $20.00 Shipping

 

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500 Round Case - 308 Win 150 Grain FMJ Copper Jacket Steel Case Wolf Ammo Made By TCW

$174.75 + $16.00 Shipping

 

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200 Round Case - 308 Win Federal Gold Medal Match 168 Grain BTHP Ammo GM308M

$169.90 + $12.00 Shipping

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.300 Subs are still in stock at SG - $0.60/pop by the 1000. 
 

FMJ supers at $0.76/pop in stock. 
 

Sellier and Bellot has been good to me over the years.  No complaints. 
 

 

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wife came home a few days ago, says she got us an "armalite rifle". Good job woman, this impressed me. So I want to get her at least 420rds and teach her how to use this thing.

 

I've never bought ammunition online, nor have I ever used 5.56. Send me in the right direction?

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If just to shoot at the range- go to SGAmmo and grab a 420 rd can of Federal American Eagle 55gr.  at $0.38 / rd.  
 

It’ll go bang.  Then if you want something for home defense or more precision shooting you can buy a box or two as appropriate after that. 

Edited by Reagan1k

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On 4/12/2020 at 1:12 PM, GotThatFire said:

wife came home a few days ago, says she got us an "armalite rifle". Good job woman, this impressed me. So I want to get her at least 420rds and teach her how to use this thing.

 

I've never bought ammunition online, nor have I ever used 5.56. Send me in the right direction?

It's like we're in 'Nam and there aren't any rules.  If you're not gonna post pics of your wife you should at least post a pic of a rifle she bought.

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On 4/12/2020 at 2:39 PM, Reagan1k said:

If just to shoot at the range- go to SGAmmo and grab a 420 rd can of Federal American Eagle 55gr.  at $0.38 / rd.  
 

It’ll go bang.  Then if you want something for home defense or more precision shooting you can buy a box or two as appropriate after that. 

What’s the best round for home defense? I read a while back about something, 300 blackout I think, but also read that they tend to go through walls? I’m in a city neighborhood

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.300 Blackout is a different caliber than the 5.56 .  You could buy a .300 BO upper for your AR-15 and convert it but the ammunition isn’t interchangeable with your stock rifle (assuming it is a 5.56 chambering).

Basically- Any centerfire caliber can over penetrate with the right (wrong) bullet so it’s not the caliber, but the bullet selection that matters. 

Opinions vary on the “best” home defense rounds and like assholes, everyone has one.

My preference for 5.56 or .300BO for that matter would be a Controlled Chaos round by Lehigh Defense.  I’m partial to their bullet design for home defense due to field experience and I have seen the Controlled Chaos terminal performance on thin skinned animals in real life.  Devastating wound channels with no pass through.....Again, just my opinion based on my experience. 

if you want to go with the .300BO chambering you’ll need a new upper and will swap out the 5.56 upper (or buy a new rifle chambered in .300BO) Takes 30 seconds to change an upper. Just be careful not to mix magazines - mark them properly so you don’t cause an accident. 
 

The .300BO vs. 5.56 debate is an entirely different debate. 

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"2020 5.56 stopping power discussion not going away."

At personal defense range, ANY 5.56 hollow, soft or ballistic point will kill real good. Same for 300 Blk. Regarding wall penetration, just about anything can do that if you're unlucky.

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21 minutes ago, Parliament said:

"2020 5.56 stopping power discussion not going away."

At personal defense range, ANY 5.56 hollow, soft or ballistic point will kill real good. Same for 300 Blk. Regarding wall penetration, just about anything can do that if you're unlucky.

Jesus this. At 2700-3100fps of muzzle velocity, it’s going through Sheetrock unless you hit a stud. 
 

Shotgun rounds if you’re super worried about that. 

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100+ price gouging complaints have been filed against 'cheaper than dirt' 

fuck those price gougers 

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8 hours ago, GotThatFire said:

What’s the best round for home defense? I read a while back about something, 300 blackout I think, but also read that they tend to go through walls? I’m in a city neighborhood

just get a shotgun bruv

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7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

100+ price gouging complaints have been filed against 'cheaper than dirt' 

Time is a flat circle.

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4 hours ago, 52-80 said:

just get a shotgun bruv

And just go fire a couple of warning shots out the door.

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1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

And just go fire a couple of warning shots off the porch.

Fixed it for ALZ patients everywhere.        (kinda CR)

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5 hours ago, 52-80 said:

just get a shotgun bruv

I have a Benelli M1014 that she is not allowed to touch. She thinks she bought this AR for me but it’s going to be for her

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15 hours ago, Bert Orange said:

Jesus this. At 2700-3100fps of muzzle velocity, it’s going through Sheetrock unless you hit a stud. 
 

Shotgun rounds if you’re super worried about that. 

I live in an old adobe style house, so my outer walls are plaster and cinderblock. Maybe they’ll stop something I don’t know

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SGAmmo market commentary-  Take it FWIW 

A lot has changed in the ammo business over the past 40 days as the Covid-19 outbreak created the largest rush to purchase ammo in all of history. Supply has been badly diminished, and bottlenecks in manufacturing and distribution will continue cause shortages for months yet to come. From what I am seeing the worst is yet to come on ammunition availability which I believe will reach its worst in the next 30 to 90 days. The buyer's market conditions which I have talked about in so many prior newsletters that brought ammo prices to 12 year lows in 2018, 2019 and early 2020 have passed. I hope most people followed my advise in the past and stocked up while supply and prices were at their best. At this time supply has for the most part been bought up, most ammo factories and importers have done substantial price increases, and moving forward availability will be limited to what the factories can make and allocate to their distributors. Covid-19 has caused some ammunition factories in Europe and Russia to close and / or reduce production, and most likely that will spill over here to some of the manufacturers in the USA at some point. I'd love to stay positive but realistically there are dark times ahead for the ammunition supply chain. All things considered, I believe we still have some decent deals in stock, admittedly not as good as they were, but not as bad as I expect them to become. If you are sitting on large quantities of ammo it might be wise to sit it out for a while but if you are short in supply it might be a good idea to get a few cases before availability gets worse. We thank you for your support of our family owned and operated business and will do our best to serve our clients well in these strange times, so please stay subscribed for future SGAmmo newsletters. If you have some spare time please take a few minutes and look over the online catalog at www.SGAmmo.com

Sam Gabbert - SGAmmo Owner

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5 hours ago, GotThatFire said:

I live in an old adobe style house, so my outer walls are plaster and cinderblock. Maybe they’ll stop something I don’t know

Remember the alamo

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On 4/13/2020 at 9:37 PM, Armybrat said:

00 Buck is going through sheet rock like shit through the proverbial goose.

Highly unlikely in lethal delivery. 

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14 hours ago, Reagan1k said:

SGAmmo market commentary-  Take it FWIW 

A lot has changed in the ammo business over the past 40 days as the Covid-19 outbreak created the largest rush to purchase ammo in all of history. Supply has been badly diminished, and bottlenecks in manufacturing and distribution will continue cause shortages for months yet to come. From what I am seeing the worst is yet to come on ammunition availability which I believe will reach its worst in the next 30 to 90 days. The buyer's market conditions which I have talked about in so many prior newsletters that brought ammo prices to 12 year lows in 2018, 2019 and early 2020 have passed. I hope most people followed my advise in the past and stocked up while supply and prices were at their best. At this time supply has for the most part been bought up, most ammo factories and importers have done substantial price increases, and moving forward availability will be limited to what the factories can make and allocate to their distributors. Covid-19 has caused some ammunition factories in Europe and Russia to close and / or reduce production, and most likely that will spill over here to some of the manufacturers in the USA at some point. I'd love to stay positive but realistically there are dark times ahead for the ammunition supply chain. All things considered, I believe we still have some decent deals in stock, admittedly not as good as they were, but not as bad as I expect them to become. If you are sitting on large quantities of ammo it might be wise to sit it out for a while but if you are short in supply it might be a good idea to get a few cases before availability gets worse. We thank you for your support of our family owned and operated business and will do our best to serve our clients well in these strange times, so please stay subscribed for future SGAmmo newsletters. If you have some spare time please take a few minutes and look over the online catalog at www.SGAmmo.com

Sam Gabbert - SGAmmo Owner

It is funny how that old man (disclaimer: no idea if he is actually old) has been saying in his emails forever how "price are low, buy now before there's another shortage they go up!" and now there is a shortage and prices have gone up. Good on him.

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How is the supply of reloading components?  Most of my gear is packed away in storage so I haven't rolled any rounds in a long time nor bought any components but has it gotten to like it was in 2012 when you stores were only allowing you to buy 100 primers at a time?  I was shooting IDPA then  and ammo and components where scarce and eventually laid up a pretty good stock when things finally came available.

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I've heard that market is really tight as well.  Some shortages and higher pricing. 

I don't know that from personal experience shopping it but I've seen mention of reloaders being frustrated by availability of certain powders, primers, etc.

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Picked up:
140 rounds Hornady vmax for 300bo
40 rounds of eld-x for 6.5c
250 rounds federal brass ball

300bo was on sale for $18.69
Eld-x was a good price
9mm was $9.99/50

All at bass pro in RR.

I have some other 300bo and more 6.5c on order from Natchez.

It’s out there. Use ammoseek to find it.


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SGAmmo just updated their inventory and pricing.

Link here SGAmmo 4/17/20

 Provides what they have in stock and is also of interest even if you aren't in the market now b/c the owner gives bits of info, what he sees in the pipeline and when he expects other shipments as well.  Take it for what its worth but my experience has been that he is honest about market conditions and the supply chain overall.

Particularly interesting are the comments below some of the Russian rounds and how the supply chain has been interrupted.   That'll have an effect on domestically made stuff if the European product dries up.

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Well, Russian ammo is being used to kill a lot of Syrian rebels recently, so there’s that.

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For what it's worth........

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Thank you for subscribing to the SGAmmo.com newsletter. If you have trouble viewing this email you can see the newsletter at this link: Bulk Ammo in Stock - Fast Shipping

As mentioned in my last 3 newsletters a lot has changed in the ammo business over the past few months as the Covid-19 outbreak created the largest rush to purchase ammo in all of history. This has greatly reduced supply stockpiles and driven prices up substantially from the 12 year bottom they hit in 2019 and early 2020. We had made huge investments in inventory but our stockpiles here at SGAmmo are really running thin, especially in 9mm FMJ, 223 / 5.56 and 300 Blackout, additionally 7.62x39, 308 Win, 22LR, 45 Auto as well as many other popular calibers are not looking good either. Getting resupplied from the factories has also not been going well. Basically every gun shop and sporting goods store in the USA sold out of inventory by late March and now all of those dealers seek to resupply, causing a mass-buy at the dealer level on top of the consumer level, which is thinning availability from ammunition factories and distributors. This new level of demand has lead most factories to raise prices, eliminate 'special deals' which are key to keeping prices attractive and allocate stock in very limited amounts. This combination of issues effectively reduces the flow to high volume dealers like SGAmmo. Many factories have also reworked their process in attempt to protect their staff from COVID19 which has reduced their capacity substantially, so in general less ammo is being made today. I'd love to stay positive but realistically there are dark times ahead for the ammunition supply chain. All things considered, I believe we still have some decent deals in stock, admittedly not as good as they were 2 months ago, but not as bad as I expect them to become. If you are sitting on large quantities of ammo it might be wise to sit it out for a while but if you are short in supply it might be a good idea to get a few cases before availability gets worse. We thank you for your support of our family owned and operated business and will do our best to serve our clients well in these strange times, so please stay subscribed for future SGAmmo newsletters. If you have some spare time please take a few minutes and look over the online catalog at www.SGAmmo.com

 

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Just ordered a 200 round case of the 9mm Speer Gold Dot 9mm +p 124 grain personal protection boolets.

With shipping it was about $201, cheaper than I bought it at Academy 10 years ago.

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Just in case you have never seen what production ammo manufacturing looks like ...


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