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  • I thought it might be helpful to have a separate topic related to the vaccine.  If this is too much duplication, mods please delete this thread.  I thought it would be good to talk about who can get the vaccine, where they can get it, what side effects people are seeing, and in general what is going on with distribution.

    The CDC has published vaccine distribution guidelines, and if you care, they are worth reading.  They are dividing the timeline into:

    • Phase 1 - Potentially limited supply of COVID-19 vaccine doses available
    • Phase 2 - Large number of vaccine doses available
    • Phase 3 - Sufficient supply of vaccine doses for entire population

    Who you are will determine if you are eligible for a vaccine in the various phases.

    Phase 1 is divided into a Phase 1a and a Phase 1b:

    • Phase 1a - Mostly healthcare workers
    • Phase 1b - Other essential workers, people with higher risks, people over 65

    If you are eligible to get the vaccine and they have in in stock and you want to get it, it is important to go get it.  Both of the first two vaccines can spoil, so if a dose is sitting there and you aren't there to get it, they might have to throw it away.

    Both vaccines require two shots.  It is important to go get that second shot.

    Who fits in phase 1b and who has to wait until phase 2 might be a sticking point.  The "people in higher risks" category includes a lot of folks, maybe more than you would think might be in that category.  Hopefully we can quickly get to phase 2 so that we don't spend too long arguing about who is or is not in Phase 1b.

    Anyway, I'm interested in everyone's experience with the vaccine and especially getting the word out for those that can go get it, so that every dose ends up in an arm rather than in the trash.

     

     


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    Constant

    Posted

    10 hours ago, Storm the Field said:

    Why I'm really hoping to get the J&J by time I'm eligible. Would prefer to avoid a 2nd dose beating. 

    Woof. Yeah, I’m just now feeling better and I took it at 8am Tuesday morning. Felt like I had a bad flu. 

    midtown

    Posted

    I don't think that they have released the efficacy data.  They did release some titer data that shows the response, but haven't given out numbers that we can compare to the PFE and MRNA efficacy numbers directly. 
    I think in an earlier post it was late March for Fda
    Anastasis

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, midtown said:
    22 minutes ago, Anastasis said:
    I don't think that they have released the efficacy data.  They did release some titer data that shows the response, but haven't given out numbers that we can compare to the PFE and MRNA efficacy numbers directly. 

    I think in an earlier post it was late March for Fda

    They're saying next week now: https://www.wsj.com/articles/johnson-johnson-profit-is-boosted-by-pharmaceuticals-business-11611666309

    If this thing comes in anywhere north of 70% effective it's fucking go time.

    midtown

    Posted

    Results from trials. But I believe there is at least a month drag on actual presentation to fda

    Druggist

    Posted

    23 hours ago, Constant said:

    Got my second round of Moderna today and I feel sick as a dog. Hoping I feel better tomorrow. 

    2 coworkers both felt terrible for a day or two after their second Moderna shot over last weekend.   4 more of us are getting shot 2 next week.  I am not looking forward to the side effects, but I can’t wait to be on the other side of getting both doses.

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    Anastasis

    Posted (edited)

    10 minutes ago, midtown said:

    Results from trials. But I believe there is at least a month drag on actual presentation to fda

    Ah, got you, misunderstood.  Yeah, I guess we will have to live through that whole notice period fiasco again as well for the FDA's advisory committee to make the decision that everybody already knows they are going to make. 

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    scottsins

    Posted

    Does anyone anywhere ask why you are 1b etc?

    Nope.

    They ask in their pre-reg stuff once you have the appointment whether you have tested positive for COVID, and whether you are having fever/other symptoms and whether you are immunocompromised.
    TexasGrunt

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, scottsins said:


    Nope.

    They ask in their pre-reg stuff once you have the appointment whether you have tested positive for COVID, and whether you are having fever/other symptoms and whether you are immunocompromised.

    Same here, I get my first shot today.  All questions to health were asked in Pre Screen.  Not sure they really checked and didn't ask me anything about my conditions when they called to setup appointment which really surprised.  One of the questions asked if I was a veteran, I am show so checked yes and pretty sure that didn't even get confirmed and I have a sneaking suspicion the Vet status helped me here.

    Nice Guy Eddie

    Posted

    9 hours ago, Druggist said:

    2 coworkers both felt terrible for a day or two after their second Moderna shot over last weekend.   4 more of us are getting shot 2 next week.  I am not looking forward to the side effects, but I can’t wait to be on the other side of getting both doses.

    Completely anecdotal but from a few second dose stories from co-workers it seems that slightly more than half feel sick after the second dose. It doesn’t hit immediately. 9-12 hours later. And the next 24 hours suck but you never have a second of regret.

    NorthLoop

    Posted

    9 hours ago, Druggist said:

    2 coworkers both felt terrible for a day or two after their second Moderna shot over last weekend.   4 more of us are getting shot 2 next week.  I am not looking forward to the side effects, but I can’t wait to be on the other side of getting both doses.

    My wife got her 2nd shot on Monday and had all the flu-like symptoms on Tuesday but it only lasted one day. I'd take that in a heartbeat. 

    vtaenz

    Posted

    11 hours ago, Armybrat said:

    The FHS asks your age.

    I developed carpel tunnel syndrome spinning that birth year date wheel.

    I don't think they're counting that one for 1b.

    XYZ

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    Completely anecdotal but from a few second dose stories from co-workers it seems that slightly more than half feel sick after the second dose. It doesn’t hit immediately. 9-12 hours later. And the next 24 hours suck but you never have a second of regret.

    Not even one second?

    kevwun

    Posted

    My arm was sore again, but not as bad as the first shot.  I did have a big knot on my arm though.  The day after I was tired and had sore joints.  Was fine on the 2nd day though.  Took about 6 days for the swelling in my arm to go away completely.

    BradInATX

    Posted

    My fucking 70 year old dad has self diagnosed his little seasonal cold a few weeks back as Covid despite testing negative and not having any of the telltale symptoms. So now he's decided he doesn't need the vaccine.

    :Gun to head emoji:

    BayouBill

    Posted

    Me and my wife both got our 2nd Moderna shot yesterday. Besides feeling kind of sore all over, I feel fine...wife woke up this morning feeling horrible and called into work. 

    Skipper

    Posted

    11 hours ago, Anastasis said:

    Ah, got you, misunderstood.  Yeah, I guess we will have to live through that whole notice period fiasco again as well for the FDA's advisory committee to make the decision that everybody already knows they are going to make. 

    I'm somewhat convinced JNJ is trying to time the process so that once approved they actually have meaningful inventory ready to go.   I don't think they wanted the headline risk of "JNJ approved" but "sorry nothing available to ship until next month".    If they had 10MM ready to go by 2/1 I bet they would have released data early January.  That's my cynical theory at least.

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    kevwun

    Posted

    How long is it supposed to take for immunity with the JNJ vaccine?

    tx 3 putt

    Posted (edited)

    Just vaccinated at a Harris County mega site. Took less than 15 mins. They’re handing out those shots as fast as people can pull up. Longest wait was for my ID card 

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    TexasGrunt

    Posted

    Just vaccinated at a Harris County mega site. Took less than 15 mins. They’re handing out those shots as fast as people can pull up. Longest wait was for my ID card 
    I did mine 10 minutes ago in Fort Bend County Fairgrounds. Sitting in the 15 minute wait area. Like you it was really fast and I got a goody bag of stuff.
    dcar00

    Posted

    2 hours ago, BayouBill said:

    Me and my wife both got our 2nd Moderna shot yesterday. Besides feeling kind of sore all over, I feel fine...wife woke up this morning feeling horrible and called into work. 

    it seems like the first one has little side affect but the 2nd one is a 50/50 crap shoot.

    kevwun

    Posted

    Unless you had Covid and then the first shot is worse.

    Neonmoon

    Posted

    JNJ will supply 100 million doses by June, but only 12 million by end of Feb. 

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-johnson-j/jj-may-not-meet-u-s-covid-19-vaccine-supply-target-by-spring-nyt-idUSKBN29I18I

    https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/j-j-ahead-phase-3-covid-19-vaccine-data-release-comfortable-meeting-its-delivery-commitments

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/health/covid-vaccine-johnson-johnson.html

    Johnson & Johnson pledged to have 12 million doses of its vaccine ready by the end of February, ramping up to a total of 100 million doses by the end of June.

     

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    JimmyJames

    Posted

    3 hours ago, BradInATX said:

    My fucking 70 year old dad has self diagnosed his little seasonal cold a few weeks back as Covid despite testing negative and not having any of the telltale symptoms. So now he's decided he doesn't need the vaccine.

    :Gun to head emoji:

    Consider yourself lucky. My dad is in his upper 70s, had a heart attack a few years ago, and I just found out isn’t getting the vaccine because it’s somehow a Chinese plot, to do what I’m not sure yet. Trying to figure out the best way to handle this. 

    gmr548

    Posted

    How long is it supposed to take for immunity with the JNJ vaccine?

    When the little 5G antenna pops out, you good
    gmr548

    Posted

    JNJ will supply 100 million doses by June, but only 12 million by end of Feb. 
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-johnson-j/jj-may-not-meet-u-s-covid-19-vaccine-supply-target-by-spring-nyt-idUSKBN29I18I
    https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/j-j-ahead-phase-3-covid-19-vaccine-data-release-comfortable-meeting-its-delivery-commitments
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/health/covid-vaccine-johnson-johnson.html
    Johnson & Johnson pledged to have 12 million doses of its vaccine ready by the end of February, ramping up to a total of 100 million doses by the end of June.
     

    I misread at first. They’re actually not going to be able to hit that 12m by February target until April, according to those reports. They’re very behind.
    utee94

    Posted

    22 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

    Consider yourself lucky. My dad is in his upper 70s, had a heart attack a few years ago, and I just found out isn’t getting the vaccine because it’s somehow a Chinese plot, to do what I’m not sure yet. Trying to figure out the best way to handle this. 

    Correct him that it's not a Chinese plot, it's a Bill Gates plot.  That should make him feel a lot better about it.

    dcar00

    Posted

    38 minutes ago, utee94 said:

    Correct him that it's not a Chinese plot, it's a Bill Gates plot.  That should make him feel a lot better about it.

    Specifically microsoft plot. He is buying American.

    tx 3 putt

    Posted

    2 hours ago, TexasGrunt said:

    I did mine 10 minutes ago in Fort Bend County Fairgrounds. Sitting in the 15 minute wait area. Like you it was really fast and I got a goody bag of stuff. emoji3.png


    damn no goody bag at Harris county. I skipped the 15 min sit around. I made a loop and left 

    Ghost of LL

    Posted

    Amarillo apparently has more vaccine than they know what to do with.  It's just a walk-in deal; no appointment needed.  Available to anybody.

    Armybrat

    Posted

    2 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

    Consider yourself lucky. My dad is in his upper 70s, had a heart attack a few years ago, and I just found out isn’t getting the vaccine because it’s somehow a Chinese plot, to do what I’m not sure yet. Trying to figure out the best way to handle this. 

    Tell your dad I’m the same age and health as he is, but I’m not that crazy. And I lived in Taiwan & traveled to Hong Kong and know the Chinese put their pants on the same way we do.

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    Captainant

    Posted

    Just now, Message Board User said:

    This is pretty darn cool.

     

    Stuck in a snowstorm with medicine that will go bad if not delivered in time? Sounds like some Balto shit

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    The Royal We

    Posted

    3 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

    Consider yourself lucky. My dad is in his upper 70s, had a heart attack a few years ago, and I just found out isn’t getting the vaccine because it’s somehow a Chinese plot, to do what I’m not sure yet. Trying to figure out the best way to handle this. 

    Dealing with the same bullshit over here with my almost 70 year old dad who has COPD and still hits the lung darts.  He was unsure if he was going to get the vaccine because some people he knows felt like shit after getting their second dose and he's been reading about how there's some bad stuff in the vaccine.  One of his best friends died yesterday from a blood clot/heart attack a few days after being released from the hospital and "beating" Covid.  I thought that might change his mind and tried to guilt trip him into, but no signs of a change of heart yet.

    Fuck Facebook.

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    Neonmoon

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

    Amarillo apparently has more vaccine than they know what to do with.  It's just a walk-in deal; no appointment needed.  Available to anybody.

    This for real? Any links?

    I got a car and time

    SizzleChest

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

    This for real? Any links?

    I got a car and time

    Note the amount of First Dose remaining.  It would suck if you anyone drove 9 or 10 hours any amount of time to Amarillo only to find out they're out of vaccine.ama.png.1132617dd1c58667a17d824d7604d508.png

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    JimmyJames

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

    Tell your dad I’m the same age and health as he is, but I’m not that crazy. And I lived in Taiwan & traveled to Hong Kong and know the Chinese put their pants on the same way we do.

    Yeah just trying to figure out the best way to approach him on it. Luckily, he takes COVID itself very seriously and has worked from home for years (he will never retire).  So he rarely ventures out and I don’t see how he would ever get COVID. But if he and mom want to hug the grandkids again...

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    Baboontyme

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Message Board User said:

    This is pretty darn cool.

     

    Cool indeed but I wonder what they're doing about shot #2? 

     

    Surly Bevo

    Posted

    19 minutes ago, Baboontyme said:

    Cool indeed but I wonder what they're doing about shot #2? 

     

    Stay stuck in the snowstorm, die of hypothermia, problem solved.

    Ghost of LL

    Posted

    51 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

    This for real? Any links?

    I got a car and time

    No link.  Mrs.LL flew out there this morning to get it when I heard from a buddy from Dallas about it.  She's heading back now after having gotten the Moderna vaccine.

    47 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

    Note the amount of First Dose remaining.  It would suck if you anyone drove 9 or 10 hours any amount of time to Amarillo only to find out they're out of vaccine.ama.png.1132617dd1c58667a17d824d7604d508.png

    That site is full of shit.  Mrs.LL reports that as of about 1:00 this afternoon, they said they still have 5,000 doses.

    dcar00

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

    No link.  Mrs.LL flew out there this morning to get it when I heard from a buddy from Dallas about it.  She's heading back now after having gotten the Moderna vaccine.

    That site is full of shit.  Mrs.LL reports that as of about 1:00 this afternoon, they said they still have 5,000 doses.

    5000 in Amarillo?

    dcar00

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

    This for real? Any links?

    I got a car and time

    thats my next country song - Vaccine(I Got a Car and Time)

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    XYZ

    Posted

    14 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

    No link.  Mrs.LL flew out there this morning to get it when I heard from a buddy from Dallas about it.  She's heading back now after having gotten the Moderna vaccine.

    So your wife heard of this, bought a plane ticket, flew there, went to the “hub” and got vaccinated?

    Brisketexan

    Posted

    So your wife heard of this, bought a plane ticket, flew there, went to the “hub” and got vaccinated?

    Lotta words to admit the missus is banging a cowhand.
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    SizzleChest

    Posted

    37 minutes ago, KaiserSoze said:

    *And had lunch with Slorch

    **Not enough time to build protective immunity.

    Ghost of LL

    Posted

    45 minutes ago, XYZ said:

    So your wife heard of this, bought a plane ticket, flew there, went to the “hub” and got vaccinated?

    I heard it from a friend in Dallas whom I trust, bought her a ticket, and put her on a plane this morning.  So, yes.

    tx 3 putt

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

    No link.  Mrs.LL flew out there this morning to get it when I heard from a buddy from Dallas about it.  She's heading back now after having gotten the Moderna vaccine


    please tell me she tried to knock down that big steak dinner before heading home ????

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