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Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet, Now Starting for the Miami Dolphins

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Let’s not forget Colt in his last two years never left the game without a lead. Yeah, I’m not counting the 0:01 versus Tech.

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17 hours ago, Thatguy said:

This was my original statement

"Colt is better than Ewers but come on. Colt did that(lead the team in rushing) against a Big12 schedule my guy. Colt isn't leading the team in rushing vs an SEC schedule and coming out healthy. I'm not saying the SEC is all that, but they ARE more physical in the trenches."

To which Jkwellborn said this-

"Man, when Colt was doing that, the Big 12 was the premier conference in the country. Just because the SEC was still playing football from 1950 doesn’t mean he wouldn’t have done similar."

To which I said-

"Yes. The SEC was not progressive offensively in 2009 but the trench play was still miles above the Big12. We learned that in the 1st quarter of the National Championship game. The SEC had 144 players drafted from 2010-2012. The Big12 had 85 over the same time frame, with most of those being skill players. Look into it."

We were talking about whether or not Colt could lead the team in rushing against an SEC schedule. We weren't talking about a single game. So I am not sure why you chose to comment the way you did.

"Hey Tone...heh heh...you hear what I just said? I said it looks like a weight-loss ad. 'Before', and 'Way Before' heh heh heh"

15 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

"Hey Tone...heh heh...you hear what I just said? I said it looks like a weight-loss ad. 'Before', and 'Way Before' heh heh heh"

This thread is like the 95 pound mole on Surly’s ass.

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15 minutes ago, MrBig said:

This thread is like the 95 pound mole on Surly’s ass.

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Nah bro, go to the 9.95 roster thread that’s a fucking shit show, the 9.95 coaching staff thread is a close second. It’s all Wisner and Flood talk for pages and pages and pages. The number of posts you can count on both threads that have anything unique or valuable to add to a discussion wouldn’t get you to 5. It’s like the offseason fucked your wife and took away all your hobbies on the same day.

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18 hours ago, Thatguy said:

That's not what I meant. I am asking what games where Colt threw a TD to win it or drove us down to win the game and close a team out gave you that confidence. I can remember one. 08 Ohio State. I cannot remember another.

Every game, every third-down, every must have it moment, he converted. The games he lost were lost on defense on a final play and lost because he got hurt.

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

Every game, every third-down, every must have it moment, he converted. The games he lost were lost on defense on a final play and lost because he got hurt.

And that would be untrue.

Just off the top of my head, Redshirt sophomore year.

21-28 OU with 9.5 left in the 4th. Colt had two possessions to tie the game up and couldn't get it done.

9-17 Nebraska. 12:56 in the 4th quarter and Colt is struggling 11-27 169 and an INT. From that point on we would throw one more pass. Luckily we had Charles, who would rush for 216 yards in the quarter and single handily win the game for us. Colt had zero TDs passing or running and was 43% passing.

21-41 Kansas St. The blowout wasn't a failure on defense as KSU only had 272 total yards and 2 TDs on Offense. No, Colt threw 4 interceptions in that game including a pick 6. Special teams was a shitshow too.

2009 Nebraska. NU had 4 field goals, 3 of which were directly due to Colt's 3 interceptions. 2 of which they didn't even get a 1st down. Nebraska then kicks the ball out of bounds on the kickoff and then a horse collar call on the short crossing route. Those two things put us in field goal range. Then Colt almost lost the game with the throw out of bounds.

I mean, I could go on but my point is he had a lot of help. Some games he played down right awful but we still won whether it was special teams, Charles, or defense. But it's funny when we look back at 2023 OU, Quinn drove us down and we scored what should've been the game winner with only a minute left and PK's D let OU drive the field and score. Then we let Penix throw for 430 yards in the Semis. We don't look at those games as "the defense failed us", no we look at those games as "Quinn couldn't get it done". In my personal opinion when we were in a dogfight during Colt's last two years Muschamp's D would usually bow up and give us a chance. Meanwhile PK's D let Gabriel march the field in a minute. Let Penix throw for 430. Let Georgia score 30. Let a freshman QB for Georgia score 19 in the second half while only throwing for 70 yards. Let Ohio State get a 80 screen pass with like 30 seconds to go before half. If they woulda stood tall Like Muschamp's D, we woulda won some of those games. They even gave Squints a legit chance to beat Bama.

10 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

And that would be untrue.

Just off the top of my head, Redshirt sophomore year.

21-28 OU with 9.5 left in the 4th. Colt had two possessions to tie the game up and couldn't get it done.

9-17 Nebraska. 12:56 in the 4th quarter and Colt is struggling 11-27 169 and an INT. From that point on we would throw one more pass. Luckily we had Charles, who would rush for 216 yards in the quarter and single handily win the game for us. Colt had zero TDs passing or running and was 43% passing.

21-41 Kansas St. The blowout wasn't a failure on defense as KSU only had 272 total yards and 2 TDs on Offense. No, Colt threw 4 interceptions in that game including a pick 6. Special teams was a shitshow too.

2009 Nebraska. NU had 4 field goals, 3 of which were directly due to Colt's 3 interceptions. 2 of which they didn't even get a 1st down. Nebraska then kicks the ball out of bounds on the kickoff and then a horse collar call on the short crossing route. Those two things put us in field goal range. Then Colt almost lost the game with the throw out of bounds.

I mean, I could go on but my point is he had a lot of help. Some games he played down right awful but we still won whether it was special teams, Charles, or defense. But it's funny when we look back at 2023 OU, Quinn drove us down and we scored what should've been the game winner with only a minute left and PK's D let OU drive the field and score. Then we let Penix throw for 430 yards in the Semis. We don't look at those games as "the defense failed us", no we look at those games as "Quinn couldn't get it done". In my personal opinion when we were in a dogfight during Colt's last two years Muschamp's D would usually bow up and give us a chance. Meanwhile PK's D let Gabriel march the field in a minute. Let Penix throw for 430. Let Georgia score 30. Let a freshman QB for Georgia score 19 in the second half while only throwing for 70 yards. Let Ohio State get a 80 screen pass with like 30 seconds to go before half. If they woulda stood tall Like Muschamp's D, we woulda won some of those games. They even gave Squints a legit chance to beat Bama.

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39 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

And that would be untrue.

Just off the top of my head, Redshirt sophomore year.

21-28 OU with 9.5 left in the 4th. Colt had two possessions to tie the game up and couldn't get it done.

9-17 Nebraska. 12:56 in the 4th quarter and Colt is struggling 11-27 169 and an INT. From that point on we would throw one more pass. Luckily we had Charles, who would rush for 216 yards in the quarter and single handily win the game for us. Colt had zero TDs passing or running and was 43% passing.

21-41 Kansas St. The blowout wasn't a failure on defense as KSU only had 272 total yards and 2 TDs on Offense. No, Colt threw 4 interceptions in that game including a pick 6. Special teams was a shitshow too.

2009 Nebraska. NU had 4 field goals, 3 of which were directly due to Colt's 3 interceptions. 2 of which they didn't even get a 1st down. Nebraska then kicks the ball out of bounds on the kickoff and then a horse collar call on the short crossing route. Those two things put us in field goal range. Then Colt almost lost the game with the throw out of bounds.

I mean, I could go on but my point is he had a lot of help. Some games he played down right awful but we still won whether it was special teams, Charles, or defense. But it's funny when we look back at 2023 OU, Quinn drove us down and we scored what should've been the game winner with only a minute left and PK's D let OU drive the field and score. Then we let Penix throw for 430 yards in the Semis. We don't look at those games as "the defense failed us", no we look at those games as "Quinn couldn't get it done". In my personal opinion when we were in a dogfight during Colt's last two years Muschamp's D would usually bow up and give us a chance. Meanwhile PK's D let Gabriel march the field in a minute. Let Penix throw for 430. Let Georgia score 30. Let a freshman QB for Georgia score 19 in the second half while only throwing for 70 yards. Let Ohio State get a 80 screen pass with like 30 seconds to go before half. If they woulda stood tall Like Muschamp's D, we woulda won some of those games. They even gave Squints a legit chance to beat Bama.

Only one of those was in 2008 or 2009. That was a game with 18 yards rushing. A major drop on a well thrown ball that likely ends the game. And interestingly enough you highlight the kickoff out of bounds and the penalty but down play the actual throw that gained 19 yards that allowed the penalty to occur. He was not good that game, but he didn’t have much offensive help either.

Also, it was interesting that you highlight 2023 OU and ignore some parallels for Tech 2008. Against OU, we needed one more first down to crater OUs chances. We get a negative play on 1st down. Both examples of not finishing the game. One because we scored the TD too early. One because we didn’t completely finish the drive.

The UW game. Three WRs, the QB, two TEs, two highly drafted olineman, all hanging out in the NFL. A month to prepare. Shocker they played well. I’m continuously surprised so many struggle with the concept that highly skilled opponents will have success. That was not UWs defense. Blame is not specific to any one player. We did have 4 shots from inside the 15.

It’s a team game so yeah the defense and special teams will make plays on a championship caliber team. But it’s a shit ton of pressure on a QB when you have to be the run game and the pass game Nevermind the cumulative effects of those hits.

Great, we’re on the “Actually, Colt McCoy wasn’t that good” part of our collective descent into hell.

Goddamnit.

1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

And that would be untrue.

Just off the top of my head, Redshirt sophomore year.

21-28 OU with 9.5 left in the 4th. Colt had two possessions to tie the game up and couldn't get it done.

9-17 Nebraska. 12:56 in the 4th quarter and Colt is struggling 11-27 169 and an INT. From that point on we would throw one more pass. Luckily we had Charles, who would rush for 216 yards in the quarter and single handily win the game for us. Colt had zero TDs passing or running and was 43% passing.

21-41 Kansas St. The blowout wasn't a failure on defense as KSU only had 272 total yards and 2 TDs on Offense. No, Colt threw 4 interceptions in that game including a pick 6. Special teams was a shitshow too.

2009 Nebraska. NU had 4 field goals, 3 of which were directly due to Colt's 3 interceptions. 2 of which they didn't even get a 1st down. Nebraska then kicks the ball out of bounds on the kickoff and then a horse collar call on the short crossing route. Those two things put us in field goal range. Then Colt almost lost the game with the throw out of bounds.

I mean, I could go on but my point is he had a lot of help. Some games he played down right awful but we still won whether it was special teams, Charles, or defense. But it's funny when we look back at 2023 OU, Quinn drove us down and we scored what should've been the game winner with only a minute left and PK's D let OU drive the field and score. Then we let Penix throw for 430 yards in the Semis. We don't look at those games as "the defense failed us", no we look at those games as "Quinn couldn't get it done". In my personal opinion when we were in a dogfight during Colt's last two years Muschamp's D would usually bow up and give us a chance. Meanwhile PK's D let Gabriel march the field in a minute. Let Penix throw for 430. Let Georgia score 30. Let a freshman QB for Georgia score 19 in the second half while only throwing for 70 yards. Let Ohio State get a 80 screen pass with like 30 seconds to go before half. If they woulda stood tall Like Muschamp's D, we woulda won some of those games. They even gave Squints a legit chance to beat Bama.

I specifically said those feelings came during his third full season playing and that maybe it was unfair that Quinn never had that opportunity. Colt definitely had a sophomore slump in 2007. We beat Nebraska in 2009 despite Chris Hall getting ragdolled like a kitten thrown in with a rabid pitbull named Suh. Again, I wasn't trying to make an objective argument, just stating how I felt watching Colt vs Quinn.

And of course, Colt had help, I never stated otherwise. But if you're telling me you don't think Colt was more clutch than Quinn, then we can just agree you're on crack. You know in your heart you never got the warm fuzzy feeling that Quinn was going to come through in the clutch and make the play when it was desperately needed. Again, I liked Quinn and defended him pretty vigorously from what I thought was unfair criticism. But Colt lost 1 game that he finished his final two seasons. And it was lost by the defense in the waning seconds. Quinn lost multiple games that he personally had a chance to win at the end (Washington, OSU, SEC Championship).

At any rate, you're reading something more into my comment than was intended. My original comment was that his primary limiter at Texas was his injuries. If not for those, I think he would have been remembered a lot more like VY and Colt then Chris Simms (which was unfair to Chris too).

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2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

But if you're telling me you don't think Colt was more clutch than Quinn, then we can just agree you're on crack.

I can agree with you here.

whenever colt as a junior and senior faced 3rd and 7 it felt like a foregone conclusion that we were converting and moving the chains. one of the reasons Colt doesn’t have as many signature moments is because he was so consistently awesome (save that fluky sophomore year) that we didn’t have a ton of moments where we truly needed him to make a play. but when we did, he made it.

colt was consistent, colt was supremely accurate, colt was our leading rusher, colt constantly made things happen after the play had broken down, both with his arm and his legs- colt was the embodiment of a davey o’brien/maxwell award winner. by his junior year we felt the exact same way about colt as we did VY- whatever the situation was, we all had supreme confidence that our qb was going to find a way to lead Texas to a win. as @Dahobbs has been saying, we never got to that point with QE through three years as a starter, and again, QE was surrounded with more talent on the o line, the TE’s, the wr’s, the running backs, the OC, and the HC. i don’t think people are truly appreciating how much more QE had to work with talent wise than Colt ever did. so for me this is like comparing ricky williams to shon mitchell; no disrespect to mitchell (or QE), but you are who you are (a good college player), and you ain’t nowhere close to ricky (colt). nothing wrong with that, but them’s the facts.

Edited by Derka

and just so people remember:

colt mccoy:

•freshman: ranked 2nd in the rocky mountain news heisman poll before getting injured with 1-2 games left

•sophomore: slump (injuries + team issues)

•junior: heisman runner up (stolen from him)

•senior: heisman runner up

when you compare someone to colt, you’re talking about a two time heisman finalist who would also have been invited to the DAC as a freshman were it not for a late season neck injury. this is one of the best QBs in cfb history, and only his (gut wrenchingly unfair) lack of a heisman and NC (😡😭🤬) make people forget that.

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5 minutes ago, Derka said:

and just so people remember:

colt mccoy:

•freshman: ranked 2nd in the rocky mountain news heisman poll before getting injured with 1-2 games left

•sophomore: slump (injuries + team issues)

•junior: heisman runner up (stolen from him)

•senior: heisman runner up

when you compare someone to colt, you’re talking about a two time heisman finalist who would also have been invited to the DAC as a freshman were it not for a late season neck injury. this is one of the best QBs in cfb history, and only his (gut wrenchingly unfair) lack of a heisman and NC (😡😭🤬) make people forget that.

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This is a stupid fuckin discussion. Colt awards:

Quinn awards/accolades:

One Qb was considered the best QB in the nation and the other was never even considered the best in his conference.

Edited by Codaxx

I'm going to disagree on HC advantage for Colt for the brief period when Mack and Greg Davis actually let college football players play college football. the period of VY's junior year through Colt's senior year they had it figured out. Putting aside PK's defenses vs. Muschamp's defenses (Muschamp gets the nod there), Sark has not hit that college football play calling groove yet. I do think overall Sark could/should be a better head coach and OC than MB/GD and he's better than them in all other time periods but that golden era of MB football VY junior through Colt in the Bama Rose Bowl is peak Texas football. Sark can eclipse that but he hasn't yet and that is in part why I say Sark wasted QE despite two semi final appearances with him.

Edited by scramblyn

Colt's signature moment should have been the 08 Tech game. Yes, we got in a big hole early but he did eventually bring us back and took the lead at the very end. Unfortunately, Gideon happened soon after. That 3 game stretch of beating OU, Mizzou and Okie State that year was amazing. Not to mention, destroyed aggy to end the season.

And it's a shame after his hard work for 4 years, he didn't even last a drive in the biggest game of his life against Bama. This was before the Bama mystique. Hell, Saban already looked scared early on by going for a ridiculous fake punt early. And of course, Gideon held onto that ball (when he didn't even need to).

Colt was cool, calm and collected. As Derka said, you didn't need to worry about him outside of the sophomore slump season. With Quinn, it was more of a hope and a prayer on if he can make a big play. Go back to that Ohio State game in the playoffs. We tied it up and now driving to take a lead in the 4th. A critical 3rd down came and Quinn failed. We give the ball back and Ohio State takes the lead. 2 straight years Quinn gets inside the red zone in the semifinals and fails miserably and we lose.

Ohio State was begging us to beat them all game long but Quinn being Quinn, couldn't take advantage and our offense was too inconsistent. The story of his career in big games. He's not the only reason we lost but he's a big part. Same goes for the Georgia games that year.

Quinn Ewers was a good QB for us. Colt McCoy played his position as well or better than literally anyone ever has. What are we doing here?

10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Quinn Ewers was a good QB for us. Colt McCoy played his position as well or better than literally anyone ever has. What are we doing here?

If I remember correctly, when Colt left Texas, he had more wins than any other QB (at any level) in the history of CFB and had the most accurate season of all-time. Kind of hard to beat that.

On 12/29/2025 at 5:46 PM, Thatguy said:

. In the Big12 Championship game Colt threw 3 picks and got sacked 9 times. Muschamp's D turned NU over 3 times and held them to 12 points. We only had to score 13. We were held to 202 total yards but Muschamp's defense held them to 106 total yards. Let me repeat that for you. 106 total yards bro.

Colt had a lot of timely help.

He didn’t get any help when that Su thug cut through our o-line and crushed him.

Not even to walk over to extend a hand to help him up off the turf. Talk about pussies

We can blame the defense for Colt (coaching too) but we can’t for Quinn. Colt is a GOAT, but had Quinn had Muschamp as his DC I’m betting we get over that hump and Quinn has one trophy Colt doesn’t.

33 minutes ago, Josef Pwag said:

If I remember correctly, when Colt left Texas, he had more wins than any other QB (at any level) in the history of CFB and had the most accurate season of all-time. Kind of hard to beat that.

and he did it all with essentially zero nfl talent around him at the skill positions. shipley was an outstanding college wr and obviously the perfect complement to colt, but even he wasn’t an nfl talent. colt LED his teams and earned his stats. hell, unless i’m forgetting someone he had a better nfl career than any of his skill position teammates. Colt McCoy was a special college qb.

don't know how we've shifted into trying to retcon colt mccoys greatness, but ya'll can fuck right off from not considering him an all time great

  1. clutch as fuck - 3rd and 15 ? 4th and 10 ? he was clutch and he you believed he was going to convert, and he converted. his misses here were rare

  2. left as the all time winningest qb at the time. while short lived (passed by Kellen Moore), if you adjust this for P4, he still holds the record

  3. one of the all time most accurate passers for any team

  4. two time heisman runner up - fuck bob stoops and his running up antics , sam bradford was glass my dude . also fuck a tim tebow

  5. had such a good read of the game, despite being slow this dude would run for 5-10 yards in the most clutch of moments and keep the chains moving

  6. if you think 2025 offensive line was bad, this dude hid all time oline issues behind almost every game in 2009 . his release and read time was insane

  7. he was our short yardage punter , and if memory serves me right our extra point / field goal placeholder ?

my only gripes are with (7) we didn't every deploy any trickery for fakes but thats on Mack and GDGD

clearly top 2 since 2000 , and i'll leave debates before 2000 for some of you older guys

There is literally not one fucking poster saying Colt isn’t one of the greatest. The simplistic thinking on a board full of Texas grads is quite shocking.

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