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The belief in her as a viable candidate for anything greater than the house is on par with that fuckin idiot wulaw’s cfp claim on the football board. 

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2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is like running Stephen Miller for senate in California. 

Not her best idea doing this. She won’t win the primary and she’ll just be wasting Talarico’s time having to focus on her in this primary. Democrats seem to have terminal bad decision disease.

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3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is like running Stephen Miller for senate in California. 


Should she be the Dem nominee, I think the result is going to depend on how desperate people are come November. We just saw a gigantic swing in Miami, where the mayor has been a Republican for 28 years. 

She's going to have to run an exceptionally tight, smart campaign. No gaffes like Beto saying he would take your guns or whatever it was he said, but I don't think it's impossible. We could see a gigantic Latino/Hispanic swing next year, who knows?  



 

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I have an uncle that'd have a coronary if she won the seat. He's not particularly religious nor does he seem to care about Maga from what I can gather, but Crockett is a no go for him.

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6 hours ago, bluto said:

The belief in her as a viable candidate for anything greater than the house is on par with that fuckin idiot wulaw’s cfp claim on the football board. 

Wulaw also thought that Dodgers getting Ohtani for the price they paid was a bad decision. He's like an older Helo.

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Interesting-  apparently the NRSC ran a bunch of push polls and robocalls to push Crockett into the race. 
Smart.
 

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But the Republican efforts didn’t stop there. In what the source dubbed an “AstroTurf recruitment process,” the NRSC had “allies that were seeding these new polls pretty aggressively into progressive digital spaces.”

There were several recruitment phone calls and text messages that went out to Democrats and high-propensity voters across the state that would urge voters to contact and advocate for Crockett to join the race, the source said.

 

 

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4 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

Not her best idea doing this. She won’t win the primary and she’ll just be wasting Talarico’s time having to focus on her in this primary. Democrats seem to have terminal bad decision disease.

I’m glad she’s running. Primaries are good. If Talarico can beat her he’ll be in a much stronger position against whoever. 

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m glad she’s running. Primaries are good. If Talarico can beat her he’ll be in a much stronger position against whoever. 

I'm just totally befuddled that this board has defaulted into a position that Talarico's candidacy is hindered by having a primary opponent.  

No one was claiming he was doomed running against charisma vacuum Allred.  Presumably surly would believe competition good in other arenas...

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36 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

I'm just totally befuddled that this board has defaulted into a position that Talarico's candidacy is hindered by having a primary opponent.  

It’s classic Democrat brain.

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6 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m glad she’s running. Primaries are good. If Talarico can beat her he’ll be in a much stronger position against whoever. 

I feel primary challengers are good in normal times and in states that are not like Texas. Talarico gains nothing by having to make his case against Congresswoman Crockett. 

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1 minute ago, UpperWestside said:

I feel primary challengers are good in normal times and in states that are not like Texas. Talerico gains nothing by having to make his case against Congresswoman Crockett. 

Why not?  Texas has 4 million or so African Americans, at least half of whom are voting age, and Crockett looks and sounds far more like them than Talarico does.  You think he’s entitled to their vote just because Cornyn is awful in the kitchen and Paxton is a felon in a just universe?  

I bet of those 2.3 million (old data, 2015 census), maybe 10% could even name who is running and Talarico needs help getting his name out.  
 

Who would you rather he be facing in the primary?

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3 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

Talarico gains nothing by having to make his case against Congresswoman Crockett. 

Except attention, community exposure, a raised profile in the general electorate, money, at-bats, learning to win, etc. And she gains the same from him. Remember- other than political junkies not many people know either of them. 
 

Not picking on you because that’s the conventional wisdom, but let me turn the idea around- why would a compelling, high contrast race between two good candidates who are very different from each other be bad? 

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3 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

I just clearly stated my position on this. 

 

39 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Nobody.

 

And I’m a black

I can’t tell if you both agree with me that Talarico has some real weaknesses as a candidate and worry that Crockett might expose them, or think him invincible and therefore any challenge is unworthy of him.  
 

Regardless, I’m on team @Bozo_Casanova on this-he needs the testing and we just had all the evidence in the world that annointing a candidate, essentially forgoing a primary leads to a bad result.  
 

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Except attention, money, at-bats, learning to win, etc. And she gains the same from him.
 

Not picking on you because that’s the conventional wisdom, but let me turn the idea around- why would a compelling, high contrast race between two good candidates who are very different from each other be bad? 

I feel like I already answered this, but I’ll try and restate it with more words. I do not, in theory, think it is ever a bad idea to have this in a time of normalcy where you have a modicum of decorum etc. These are not normal times. Every single day he is not out canvassing the state presenting to voters in Texas his ideas for how to attempt to right a ship that’s leaning heavily towards sinking is a day wasted. You want to hold this contested primary in a time where contrasting two candidates and their ideas matter is different than the current landscape of combatting fascism that now has a fairly firm grip on Texas. Time is of the essence in attempting to fight back. Talarico is, and I think this will hold true, the right sex and color for that state. I find that abhorrent because I’d personally rather vote for women of color almost all of the time. I was able to vote for AOC once when I lived in her district. Talarico will be able to talk to people who normally do not want to hear one of those evil libtards because of how he looks and that he’s a man. It’s not right, but it is what it is. 
 

I also happen to like Congresswoman Crockett quite a bit. Her and AOC are two that I enjoy listening to. She just is not going to win a statewide race in fascist Texas. I want ideas to matter and I want to hear a diverse array of them. I won’t agree with every single thing a Democratic candidate thinks or says, but I want to hear their ideas in a normal time. This just is not it. 

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54 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

he needs the testing and we just had all the evidence in the world that annointing a candidate, essentially forgoing a primary leads to a bad result.  

And not for nothing. she needs it too.

40 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

You want to hold this contested primary in a time where contrasting two candidates and their ideas matter is different than the current landscape of combatting fascism that now has a fairly firm grip on Texas.

Absolutely I do! Nothing could be more important than Democrats getting attention as alternatives. Which they cannot do without spectacle. What would you have them do otherwise? Write editorials and put out position papers?

40 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

I want ideas to matter and I want to hear a diverse array of them. I won’t agree with every single thing a Democratic candidate thinks or says, but I want to hear their ideas in a normal time. This just is not it. 

There is no day but today and no world but what we make. Sack up, pick one, throw them some dollars, and be prepared to vote for the other if you need to. 

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