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On 7/6/2025 at 9:35 AM, 956 Worldwide said:

Completely agree.  The Udvar-Hazey Center is likely the best flight and space museum in the world and an orbiter belongs there with the rest of America’s treasures. Moving it will simply deprive generations of aviation lovers and future aviators or engineers from marveling at what America can do. 
 

The correct answer for what to do was to put a line in a budget a decade ago to install the NY orbiter in Houston properly cared for. To fund NASA to tell its own story. Obama should have asked for it and Congress should have voted for it.

This is just sheer idiocy at this point, they don’t like the “woke Smithsonian” and so the shuttle ends as it lived- far underfunded and directed at the wrong mission. 

I love the Udvar-Hazey Center.  We try to go there every couple of years, as we are pretty close to it.   Also, sucks we won't get to see the shuttle there anymore. 

I know, fuck Ohio and all, but if you ever happen to be in Dayton, check out the National Museum of the Air Force.  I spent four hours there one day playing hooky from work and I felt I just scratched the surface of all the shit in there.   So many of aircraft there that are they last of their kind in the world, not to mention some other famous aircraft, including Bockscar and Memphis Belle. Great place. 

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1 hour ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

Houston should have received the Endeavor, but to try and take the one from the Smithsonian now is beyond stupid, not to mention probably prohibitively expensive

There is $85M allocated in the shit-tastic BBB to move the shuttle from the Smithsonian to Houston and build a facility to house it. The Smithsonian has estimated it will cost at least $325M to relocate the shuttle from DC to Texas and build a facility to display it. Seems like a responsible allocation of funds.

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/07/03/smithsonian-committed-to-keeping-space-shuttle-in-chantilly-despite-relocation-proposal/

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18 minutes ago, C-Man said:

There is $85M allocated in the shit-tastic BBB to move the shuttle from the Smithsonian to Houston and build a facility to house it. The Smithsonian has estimated it will cost at least $325M to relocate the shuttle from DC to Texas and build a facility to display it. Seems like a responsible allocation of funds.

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/07/03/smithsonian-committed-to-keeping-space-shuttle-in-chantilly-despite-relocation-proposal/

Since it's not enough to do fuck all with, Space Center Houston will spend about a third of it on various commissions and vendors run by the board's cousins to study the issue, then the rest will get clawed back and spent on golf trips. 

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the whole thing was fucked up from the beginning

new york has zero connection to the space program other than the parades in the 60's

enterprise should have gone to la for a dozen reasons

endeavour should have gone to houston

and the astrodome would have been perfect

this timeline

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18 hours ago, Captainant said:

it's incredibly frustrating that they're slashing NASA's budget but allocating money for boondoggles like this that do NOTHING to further their science mission

The *only* political comment I'll make here is that NASA has done more than enough to "get away from their science mission" on their own.  There's lots of wasteful spending, poor contractor management, "non-primary-mission" programs, etc.

Having said that, yes - if dedicated to primary exploration and overseen by budgetary hawks, I'm 100% in favor of an increased budget.  But right now, there's little to no accountability and a sense of entitlement that isn't helping anything.

(political rant over, apologies)

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As Bill Nye told someone, you don’t see Department of Agriculture or HUD shirts or stickers out in the wild

other than National Parks, NASA is inherently the most American agency. Shared commitment to scientific advancement, doing the impossible, and leading the world in advancement and human endeavor 

Too bad we are giving it all up because one of their core missions of earth science doesn’t jive with the anti-climate science regime. 

Kind of like trying to name one of our foremost center for the arts after an Eastern European gold digging whore 

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