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Sometimes I have to remind myself that this is the least talented pitching staff Weiner and Schloss will have, and we are still performing as a top 10 staff in the country. They have Cody Howard throwing at an acceptable level and are getting outs from Ethan Walker throwing 84 MPH from a funky arm slot.

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37 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Yeah it's like Tulo woke up from a hangover and was like "hey guys you can swing the bat against these chumps" and they were like "oh .. ok I guess we'll do that then" 

I would like to see the data on how many first strikes we look at. Not even first pitch, just first strikes. Has to be like 95%. 

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8 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I would like to see the data on how many first strikes we look at. Not even first pitch, just first strikes. Has to be like 95%. 

Pitch count. Looking at 3rd strikes is what ol JW no likey. 

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8 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I would like to see the data on how many first strikes we look at. Not even first pitch, just first strikes. Has to be like 95%. 

That's a Schloss thing. He likes to work pitch counts. I don't have a problem with them looking at first strikes. My problem is when they watch strike 2 and 3 that are both just belt high meatballs. 

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37 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

That's a Schloss thing. He likes to work pitch counts. I don't have a problem with them looking at first strikes. My problem is when they watch strike 2 and 3 that are both just belt high meatballs. 

That's fine.  It's a difference of philosophy I guess.  In my experience, first pitches, or at least first strikes, are often the best pitch you see the entire AB because the pitcher is trying to get ahead also.  Whatever.  Just need to hit the damn ball.

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I am not gonna lie... despite it being a win... that was honestly one of the most frustrating games I have ever been at.

we had something like 13-14 batters come up to the plate with bases loaded, and we ended up with 3 walks, and an infield single by Jonah. 

and the two times we had fewer than 2 outs with bases loaded, we struck out for the 2nd out both times. 

 

yes, we won... but this felt more like a loss than a win

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1 hour ago, NorthLoop said:

That's a Schloss thing. He likes to work pitch counts. I don't have a problem with them looking at first strikes. My problem is when they watch strike 2 and 3 that are both just belt high meatballs. 

Augie and Harmon ALWAYS took pitches until first strike. Unless it was a bunt opportunity.

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2 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

That's a Schloss thing. He likes to work pitch counts. I don't have a problem with them looking at first strikes. My problem is when they watch strike 2 and 3 that are both just belt high meatballs. 

I don't have the time to go back and look, but my guess is the number of pitchers who have made it through 6 complete innings against us this year can be counted on one hand. Over the course of a series, that is always going to greatly increase your chances of winning when the opposing team has to dip deeper and deeper into the bullpen. Of course, when you run into Zach Root or Kade Anderson that strategy isn't as effective, but don't think this staff is stupid enough to think it does. Schloss made a comment after the Thursday Arkansas game that they had a plan to be more aggressive against Root early in the count but he was just so good that there wasn't much they could do.

There is a fine line between being selective and being passive, and I think some of these guys are still trying to find that balance. For a team that leads the country in pitches per plate appearance, we are actually in the middle of the pack in terms of walks drawn in the SEC.

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We are definitely overachieving given the amount of talent in the roster. In order for us to win it all or make a deep run in Omaha, we are going to need Spencer and Belyeu back and be in their pre-injury form.

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1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

I don't have the time to go back and look, but my guess is the number of pitchers who have made it through 6 complete innings against us this year can be counted on one hand. Over the course of a series, that is always going to greatly increase your chances of winning when the opposing team has to dip deeper and deeper into the bullpen. Of course, when you run into Zach Root or Kade Anderson that strategy isn't as effective, but don't think this staff is stupid enough to think it does. Schloss made a comment after the Thursday Arkansas game that they had a plan to be more aggressive against Root early in the count but he was just so good that there wasn't much they could do.

There is a fine line between being selective and being passive, and I think some of these guys are still trying to find that balance. For a team that leads the country in pitches per plate appearance, we are actually in the middle of the pack in terms of walks drawn in the SEC.

He reiterated that in his OB interview on Monday. They want to be patient and work pitch counts, but guys like Root aren’t going to give you walks, so you need to swing more to give yourself chances for hits. 

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59 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

We are definitely overachieving given the amount of talent in the roster. In order for us to win it all or make a deep run in Omaha, we are going to need Spencer and Belyeu back and be in their pre-injury form.

Well I got bad news for you. 

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1 hour ago, UTEE97 said:

We are definitely overachieving given the amount of talent in the roster. In order for us to win it all or make a deep run in Omaha, we are going to need Spencer and Belyeu back and be in their pre-injury form.

Spencer is done-zo

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1 hour ago, UTEE97 said:

We are definitely overachieving given the amount of talent in the roster. In order for us to win it all or make a deep run in Omaha, we are going to need Spencer and Belyeu back and be in their pre-injury form.

Wait What Reaction GIF

 

Other guys can and need to get healthy though...

 

 

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2 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

We are definitely overachieving given the amount of talent in the roster. 

What are you basing the talent evaluation on?  

But “talent” is a foggy notion as I tend to view others thinking it’s high 99s fastballs or Ivan Melendez shots.
 

As an athlete, I’d probably be pissed that you’re undervaluing my abilities.  The truth is there are certainly several dudes that have the ability to perform better.  At least consistently better.
 

I suspect that we’ll get more higher end guys, but I don’t think the back end of the roster will get much deeper.  Unless NIL can buy patience.  I’m guessing there’ll be a Jayden Duplantier more often than not.  Fast, utility guy that works at it and does not expect to start every game.  There’s absolute value in guys like that.  Above average talent is not going to sit for multiple years unless the dollars are enough.

As far as the “eye” test, we aren’t overachieving because our opponents don’t jump off the page as being elite.  Several of the big arms we’ve seen can’t find the zone.  Some of the best arms have beaten us, but they can’t pitch all 3 games.  Opposing hitters haven’t exactly torn the cover off the ball.  If you haven’t looked at other teams rosters, how many guys contribute and the production at the bottom end, then you might be surprised to know only about 22-24 guys play and quite a few of those have poor numbers.

 Then you’ve got Max Grubbs.  Maybe his talent isn’t elite.  Maybe his tenacity is.  I’ll take him any day.

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1 minute ago, Had Enough said:

What are you basing the talent evaluation on?  

Well the guys at D1Baseball keep telling us we are not as talented as the other top teams in the SEC.

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2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Well the guys at D1Baseball keep telling us we are not as talented as the other top teams in the SEC.

I look up the Perfect Game rankings and some draft rankings when these guys are prospects.  I know Tennessee is bringing them in, Arkansas too.  UF.  But beyond that, we’re right there or better than others.  And UF likes to suck til playoff time.

At some point production matters. We have a lot of maturity too.  Bell for Kentucky looked great but otherwise not much.  Irish for Auburn is something but pretty underwhelming otherwise.

When watching, I don’t feel we’re outmatched or overwhelmingly fortunate.  Arkansas was primed and ready otherwise it’s good pitchers picking us off.  That’s been limited too.

Hell, I’d say Gasparino, Flores, Farmer have more to give us.  I don’t see any reason Rodriguez, Galvan, Schuessler, Mendoza can’t keep on keeping on.

DV is the one I see most difficult to sustain.  Even a slight drop off and he’s damn good.

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29 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Hell, I’d say Gasparino, Flores, Farmer have more to give us

Couldn't agree more. They flash their potential from time to time, but we need them to be more consistent (easier said than done). We have talent but very few elite guys who strike fear in our opponents. I think this team has come this far because of coaching, not necessarily because of sheet talent. 

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18 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Couldn't agree more. They flash their potential from time to time, but we need them to be more consistent (easier said than done). We have talent but very few elite guys who strike fear in our opponents. I think this team has come this far because of coaching, not necessarily because of sheet talent. 

Yeah, we don’t have 1st round talent necessarily, but we’ve got some potential, deeper than most believe.  But I probably view it differently too.

Flores has about as easy power as anyone.  Not Ivan Melendez brute strength bat on the ball and it’ll carry power.  More consistency needed.  Now Max has more brute power.  It’s a shame he got hurt because I think he’s a fearful type talent.

Obviously, the coaches are putting players in chances to succeed.  I won’t down play their efforts in that.

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Our offense is plenty good to win it all. I fear the pitching is a year away. They are maximizing our pitching staff right now. We have hitters that can rake when on ,but we don’t have the ace that can get us one when we need it. We’re still Texas baseball and I still expect us to win tho. Expectations are a bitch but that’s what you sign up for when you play at Texas. 

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10 hours ago, Hookem10 said:

Our offense is plenty good to win it all. I fear the pitching is a year away. They are maximizing our pitching staff right now. We have hitters that can rake when on ,but we don’t have the ace that can get us one when we need it. We’re still Texas baseball and I still expect us to win tho. Expectations are a bitch but that’s what you sign up for when you play at Texas. 

I see you and raise you this guy:

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7 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

Hell yeah - let’s go to war and win it all - I’d prefer max grubbs - dv to valuable on the back end right now 

I meant in his closer role. 

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