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1.2 million acres today (plus weakened protections of 58 million additional acres with the rescinded roadless rule), NWRs, NFs and NPs tomorrow.

I think anyone who lives in Texas and gives the tiniest shit about the outdoors would agree that more federal lands is preferable to our situation, where over 96% of the land is privately held. 

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YES

Lee pulls federal land sales from megabill

Sen. Mike Lee’s decision to withdraw his proposal removes a major headache for GOP leadership in both chambers as they look to advance their megabill.

 

🤞may this be the shortest thread in the CR.

also...did the pressure actually work?? cuz it seems like the pressure worked. 

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On 6/25/2025 at 8:13 PM, hookem2010 said:

1.2 million acres today (plus weakened protections of 58 million additional acres with the rescinded roadless rule), NWRs, NFs and NPs tomorrow.

I think anyone who lives in Texas and gives the tiniest shit about the outdoors would agree that more federal lands is preferable to our situation, where over 96% of the land is privately held. 

you’re not wrong re: the sentiment, but the vast majority of land in Texas is privately owned, with the second biggest chunk being state owned.   

only 1.9% of the land in Texas is federally owned.  which means this is meh issue for nearly all Texans.  only a minuscule number are even going to know about this, and even then it’ll mostly be a combination of hikers, campers, Sierra Club folks and hunters who lottery hunt out west.  
 

I’m 3 of the 4, so i personally hope Mike Lee gets a red hot fire poker shoved up his ass by some pissed of gang of campers.  

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3 hours ago, mchookem said:

YES

Lee pulls federal land sales from megabill

Sen. Mike Lee’s decision to withdraw his proposal removes a major headache for GOP leadership in both chambers as they look to advance their megabill.

 

🤞may this be the shortest thread in the CR.

also...did the pressure actually work?? cuz it seems like the pressure worked. 

Don’t fuck with our lands. As you stated, this seems to be one of the last bipartisan subjects left. That said, this fight will go on forever because shitheads just can’t seem to stop themselves from trying this over and over. 
 

To paraphrase John Muir: the enemies of wildness are invincible and unwavering. But for every acre that you gain, the trees and their lovers will sing their praises, and generations yet unborn will rise up and call them blessed.

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4 hours ago, mchookem said:

YES

Lee pulls federal land sales from megabill

Sen. Mike Lee’s decision to withdraw his proposal removes a major headache for GOP leadership in both chambers as they look to advance their megabill.

 

🤞may this be the shortest thread in the CR.

also...did the pressure actually work?? cuz it seems like the pressure worked. 

YES, the pressure actually worked. I am very much relieved and energized this morning to read this after going to bed last night fearing the worst!

And you know what? This bill isn't done yet. It now goes back to the House where they'll need to iron out the differences. For starters, the House bill cut $800B from Medicaid. The Senate version cuts $1 trillion AND MAKES CUTS TO MEDICARE. Yes, Medicare. For old people. Retirees. What that means is that some chickenshit GOP reps who were counting on the Senate being the sane ones and watering this thing down somewhat, as is usually the case, now need to start feeling the heat from their constituents. This is probably not something they are normally used to, as this third rail of American politics has never been touched.

People need to get on the fucking phone and call their reps. Call their Senators too. If nothing else, make their staffers walk into work Monday morning with hundreds of messages on voicemail. 

(202) 224-3121 gets to the congressional switchboard. They will connect you directly with your rep's or senator's office if you don't want to find the number directly.

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I’m pessimistic about the growing movement to sell federal land to states if not private industry. Like @Kyrie Eleison stated many regions don’t have much federal land so this is a non issue for them. Second this is an idea that may only need to succeed once then the land would be privatized forever.

ive seen a few billionaires (wanna be) types argue that the US is sitting on trillions of dollars of land value that could be sold to pay off the national debt. Maybe there’s partial accuracy in that, but pawning your assets is a big step in eventual downfalls of organizations.

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If we were worried about the national debt, we could solve it on the spending side.

Nobody wants to.

The notion of selling land to remedy the debt is like the degenerate gambler who puts the rent money on black.  Actually, the gambler has a MUCH better shot at achieving a win.  The debt has ZERO weight in the discussion, IMHO.  It's lip service.

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4 minutes ago, Iceman said:

If we were worried about the national debt, we could solve it on the spending side.

Nobody wants to.

The notion of selling land to remedy the debt is like the degenerate gambler who puts the rent money on black.  Actually, the gambler has a MUCH better shot at achieving a win.  The debt has ZERO weight in the discussion, IMHO.  It's lip service.

Yep, they'd sell the public land disguised as raising money to pay national debt.  Sales wouldn't go toward paying national debt, however, and it would open the floodgates to sell more public land for private exploitation.  Make no mistake, these jackasses in charge aren't for helping the public in any way.  The vaccine research cancellations out front should have warned people. 

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11 minutes ago, Iceman said:

If we were worried about the national debt, we could solve it on the spending side.

Nobody wants to.

The notion of selling land to remedy the debt is like the degenerate gambler who puts the rent money on black.  Actually, the gambler has a MUCH better shot at achieving a win.  The debt has ZERO weight in the discussion, IMHO.  It's lip service.

Well it's not like the president has driven multiple casinos into bankruptcy or anything right? Maybe the ghost of Fred trump can bail out America like he did the trump taj mahal

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1 hour ago, Iceman said:

If we were worried about the national debt, we could solve it on the spending side.

Nobody wants to.

The notion of selling land to remedy the debt is like the degenerate gambler who puts the rent money on black.  Actually, the gambler has a MUCH better shot at achieving a win.  The debt has ZERO weight in the discussion, IMHO.  It's lip service.

Both sides!

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5 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Disagree. Our national debt is a both sides issue similar to the splinter-log issue. 

The actions demonstrate that nobody wants to solve the national debt.

It is not a matter of revenue, either.  They simply will not stop spending.  It is the crack cocaine of politics.

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13 minutes ago, Iceman said:

It is not a matter of revenue, either.  They simply will not stop spending.  It is the crack cocaine of politics.

A significant portion of US GDP is driven by stimulus via government spending. I thought you like LGU economics?

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11 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

And Lisa Murkowski is a jelly fish spined wuss.  She ended up voting for the bill.  

I can’t imagine that plays well with the Alaskan natives.

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1 hour ago, Iceman said:

The actions demonstrate that nobody wants to solve the national debt.

It is not a matter of revenue, either.  They simply will not stop spending.  It is the crack cocaine of politics.

Except the Dems actually balanced the balance under Clinton, and reduced deficit spending under all their presidents since

Republican presidents explode the debt. Dems don’t. It is that simple.

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2 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

Yep, they'd sell the public land disguised as raising money to pay national debt.  Sales wouldn't go toward paying national debt, however, and it would open the floodgates to sell more public land for private exploitation.  Make no mistake, these jackasses in charge aren't for helping the public in any way.  The vaccine research cancellations out front should have warned people. 

Guarantee that if we sold off trillions of dollars of national land, whatever President/party that is in power would want to immediately give it back as a tax refund and not really touch the debt. I recall when GWB inherited a roughly balanced/maybe slight surplus, he said that Americans knew how to spend their money better than DC so let’s run up a deficit with tax breaks and a foreign war.

and with the tax refund, the gop would give 95% of it to wealthy folks. Trickle down and all.

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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

Well it's not like the president has driven multiple casinos into bankruptcy or anything right? Maybe the ghost of Fred trump can bail out America like he did the trump taj mahal

His past absolutely lends zero benefit of the doubt on anything regarding business or economics. No credibility exists there. 

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1 hour ago, Willfully Horn said:

Except the Dems actually balanced the balance under Clinton, and reduced deficit spending under all their presidents since

Republican presidents explode the debt. Dems don’t. It is that simple.

Example is from 30 years ago? OK. You convinced me.   Lol. 

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Oh Slorch, you're always like just on the cusp but you can never quite make yourself take that extra half inch of a step

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3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I’m pessimistic about the growing movement to sell federal land to states if not private industry. Like @Kyrie Eleison stated many regions don’t have much federal land so this is a non issue for them. Second this is an idea that may only need to succeed once then the land would be privatized forever.

ive seen a few billionaires (wanna be) types argue that the US is sitting on trillions of dollars of land value that could be sold to pay off the national debt. Maybe there’s partial accuracy in that, but pawning your assets is a big step in eventual downfalls of organizations.

Since we had long term fiscal stability in the late 90s, we've cut taxes on billionaires 3x (and about to be 4x), that, along with getting into land wars in Asia, has ballooned the debt up to where it is. The Republican solution to that is to sell trillions of dollars of federal land, most of which will be bought up by billionaires, making them even richer and the rest of us poorer.

 

Just another reminder that Republican policy makers fucking hate you.

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5 minutes ago, safe sex said:

Oh Slorch, you're always like just on the cusp but you can never quite make yourself take that extra half inch of a step

Oh, I'm fairly certain things have changed for me.  It started at the top 8 years ago. It is impacting my choices on election day well beyond POTUS. 

Flipside of that is the flag wavers/ yea team/ and borderline cultists who think their squad has no warts.  Start trying to have a discussion and KABLOOIE on any objectivity at all. 
 

I find it amusing and very slightly wtf? at the same time. 

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32 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Example is from 30 years ago? OK. You convinced me.   Lol. 

Here, let me help

1 hour ago, Willfully Horn said:

Except the Dems actually balanced the balance under Clinton, and reduced deficit spending under all their presidents since

Republican presidents explode the debt. Dems don’t. It is that simple.

 

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