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3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'm high, mind summarizing?

Dem internals indicate they think the Texas Senate race is winnable so they're spending some money in Texas in the last week leading up to Election Day.

Huckleberry disagrees because he thinks Hegar's campaign has been a complete clusterfuck, film at 11. Oh shit it's already 11. No film then.

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Anecdotal info--the Trump neighbors (if they were being honest) got disgusted enough that the two that I chatted with ended up leaving the presidential race blank and went R straight thereafter. I suspect that will be the case for many of them. It's the weirdest thing, they take an special pride in 'never voting for a democrat.' I understand loyalty, but to a political party? Makes zero sense to me. So Cornyn, as much as I can't stand him, has probably got this covered.

Hegar's campaign also doesn't register well with me. The ads with the motorbike as an entry ad, oh say about ten months ago, made sense. It got my attention. Who is this bad ass military woman. But then I want more. Tell me about yourself in terms of policies that affect Texans and what you are going to do about it. Or, trash Cornyn if you want to go negative. He's got ample material.

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When I analyze the Senate race I start by comparing it to the 2018 governor's race, a 13 point loss. But 2 years is another 2 to 3 point swing or 4 to 6 margin. Then Hegar is a slightly better candidate and Cornyn a slightly worse one for another 2 or 3 points.  Then being a presidential year is another 2 or 3 points. That still leaves Hegar short without an unusually large Democratic turnout advantage.

Biden has to win Texas by 300,000 for her to have a chance. I did not think that was possible,  as it would take 11.5 to 12 million votes. Election day turnout will probably fall flat for Democrats, as usual, and leave her short. But I hope I am wrong.

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11 hours ago, gmr548 said:


Care to elaborate on your NC assertion? Polls haven’t moved much unless you’re looking at garbage like Trafalgar.

I saw a couple newspaper polls there with Cunningham up 1 or 2 is all. I’ve also seen some senate polls with him running ahead of Biden post sexting and I’d say I’m dubious on that proposition. I’d expect him to run a point or 2 behind Biden but that’s just a guess. 
seems a Trump voter would be unlikely to vote for Cal, unless they are just pro sexual immorality in their candidate. Which I guess would be consistent. 
I’ve got Cunningham winning by less than 2. And Biden winning by 3-4 in NC. 

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8 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Must be why MJ's commercials are getting better. 

I haven't seen the latest ones, and I have but one perspective which is going to be super biased. Texas is diverse and I think she needs to play that up more than what I was seeing. White moms in the suburbs are fine and all, but reach out to young people, what are you going to do to make the future of Texas brighter for them? Not everyone gets into UT, not everyone wants post hs four year education but does want additional education to help with their career choices and how to live independently. What about the folks in rural Texas that are seeing more COVID cases and no hospitals in their counties? And so on.

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4 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I haven't seen the latest ones, and I have but one perspective which is going to be super biased. Texas is diverse and I think she needs to play that up more than what I was seeing. White moms in the suburbs are fine and all, but reach out to young people, what are you going to do to make the future of Texas brighter for them? Not everyone gets into UT, not everyone wants post hs four year education but does want additional education to help with their career choices and how to live independently. What about the folks in rural Texas that are seeing more COVID cases and no hospitals in their counties? And so on.

The last couple I've come across have been scathing attack ads on Cornyn....one ends by calling him a coward.  I like that. 

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57 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Anecdotal info--the Trump neighbors (if they were being honest) got disgusted enough that the two that I chatted with ended up leaving the presidential race blank and went R straight thereafter. I suspect that will be the case for many of them. It's the weirdest thing, they take an special pride in 'never voting for a democrat.' I understand loyalty, but to a political party? Makes zero sense to me. So Cornyn, as much as I can't stand him, has probably got this covered.

Hegar's campaign also doesn't register well with me. The ads with the motorbike as an entry ad, oh say about ten months ago, made sense. It got my attention. Who is this bad ass military woman. But then I want more. Tell me about yourself in terms of policies that affect Texans and what you are going to do about it. Or, trash Cornyn if you want to go negative. He's got ample material.

That family voted Trump. They just don't want to admit it. However, real voters like that should vote third party. 

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25 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

That family voted Trump. They just don't want to admit it. However, real voters like that should vote third party. 

I see where you're coming from, but it wasn't a family. It's two widows, both of whom lost their husbands during Trump's time in office and the COVID response from the WH and their solitary life away from their remaining family due to the pandemic is sorely testing that R loyalty. I was the one who suggested leaving the top line blank when I sensed a weakening in their resolve so who knows. They either lied as you suggest, or they got a little of their own self determination back. One of the other R neighbors, yeah I had hopes but the 'socialist' stuff is like an ear worm for her and she is afraid of Kamala Harris for some reason (I suspect it's her family back in East Texas that keep her in the cult).

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11 minutes ago, thepop said:

Excited Always Sunny GIF

 

Huge. They said 58% of their respondents have already voted. That means that as their Likely Voter model gets refined by better data on people who have already voted, Biden is improving. It's been said a bunch, but the opposite happened in 2016 where these late polls with lots of already-voted responses broke to Trump. It's a very strong predictor.

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The best thing about the image above is the numbers on Biden's row. 50% no matter what model they use.

 

Huge poll. Terrific. Beautiful. Every one of these that comes in showing that the Trump hidden voter thing isn't happening again (or in this case is happening, but for Biden) will make my day. 

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15 hours ago, gmr548 said:


Care to elaborate on your NC assertion? Polls haven’t moved much unless you’re looking at garbage like Trafalgar.

There's just some things you can't recover from. Like tweeting a picture of yourself cooking burgers on a gas grill, and telling your N.C. constituents that you are

barbecuing.

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There's just some things you can't recover from. Like tweeting a picture of yourself cooking burgers on a gas grill, and telling your N.C. constituents that you are
barbecuing.

Or like implying Carolina barbecue isn’t trash on a Texas board
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I'm pretty opposed to all barbecue in general, so if anyone needed another reason to dislike me I'm now on the record as not liking guns (I'm not in favor of taking away your gun or anything, I just don't like them for myself) and not liking barbecue in the last 30 or 45 minutes on this board. Again, I can't claim to be a Texan, merely that I've lived here for the better part of 30 years (I'm a man- I'm 42) minus time away for law school and working in DC and MN and WI for 3 or 4 summers total.  

I love meat- and when it hits my plate I want it to be purple and still mooing, baaaaa-ing or oinking.  Barbecue doesn't give you that. I don't get it.  That or Dr. Pepper. 

But, politically I did talk about the Cunningham thing as a question of- is this actually going to be a thing?  Then the sexting came right out and buried barbecue-gate. 

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1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I'm pretty opposed to all barbecue in general, so if anyone needed another reason to dislike me I'm now on the record as not liking guns (I'm not in favor of taking away your gun or anything, I just don't like them for myself) and not liking barbecue in the last 30 or 45 minutes on this board. Again, I can't claim to be a Texan, merely that I've lived here for the better part of 30 years (I'm a man- I'm 42) minus time away for law school and working in DC and MN and WI for 3 or 4 summers total.  

Doesn't like BBQ.

Doesn't care for firearms.

Doesn't vote.

Can't wait till he can fellate the GOP again.

WTF?  What benefit do you provide to the planet at all?

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14 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I'm pretty opposed to all barbecue in general, so if anyone needed another reason to dislike me I'm now on the record as not liking guns (I'm not in favor of taking away your gun or anything, I just don't like them for myself) and not liking barbecue in the last 30 or 45 minutes on this board. Again, I can't claim to be a Texan, merely that I've lived here for the better part of 30 years (I'm a man- I'm 42) minus time away for law school and working in DC and MN and WI for 3 or 4 summers total.  

I love meat- and when it hits my plate I want it to be purple and still mooing, baaaaa-ing or oinking.  Barbecue doesn't give you that. I don't get it.  That or Dr. Pepper. 

But, politically I did talk about the Cunningham thing as a question of- is this actually going to be a thing?  Then the sexting came right out and buried barbecue-gate. 

Which is your favorite sport curling or women's basketball?

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9 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Which is your favorite sport curling or women's basketball?

Curling is awesome.  Have you ever watched it? Next you are going to tell me you don't like Shuffleboard at the bar- that's what curling is but even cooler b/c it's interactive and on ice.  What's not to like?  Womens hoops is an abomination before god, but when my daughters play I get excited as if I actually like it. Willing to do a lot for my daughters.  Stuff way worse than pretend to like womens hoops.  

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14 minutes ago, Bookman said:

I can maybe perhaps understand not particularly liking barbecue, but being opposed to it? Because of animal rights?

No. Not opposed to it in that sense (not trying to take it away from you) opposed to it in the sense that if someone says what do you want to eat- Mexican, Italian, Chinese, Sushi, or barbecue the answer will never be barbecue.  The answer is only barbecue if the question is- do you want to try that new Indian restaurant or barbecue- then I will get barbecue and order a chopped baker or something and smother cheese and sour cream and butter and sauce on said chopped baker so as to negate the dryness of the barbecue. But I'm not going to make a big issue of it or anything.  

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21 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Which is your favorite sport curling or women's basketball?

Don't shit on curling.  GOLL and I spent at least 2 hours getting our morning beer on at the airport bar in Montreal (flight delay) watching inter-province women's curling matches on the bar TV in February.  It was fucking riveting.

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13 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Curling is awesome.  Have you ever watched it? Next you are going to tell me you don't like Shuffleboard at the bar- that's what curling is but even cooler b/c it's interactive and on ice.  What's not to like?  Womens hoops is an abomination before god, but when my daughters play I get excited as if I actually like it. Willing to do a lot for my daughters.  Stuff way worse than pretend to like womens hoops.  

Fair enough.  But thrice replaced hips and ice do not mix. 

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Don't shit on curling.  GOLL and I spent at least 2 hours getting our morning beer on at the airport bar in Montreal (flight delay) watching inter-province women's curling matches on the bar TV in February.  It was fucking riveting.

In bikinis with pervy camera shots?  In. 

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Don't shit on curling.  GOLL and I spent at least 2 hours getting our morning beer on at the airport bar in Montreal (flight delay) watching inter-province women's curling matches on the bar TV in February.  It was fucking riveting.

It really is. In law school during the Winter Olympics (2002 I think)  my roommate and I would get up start drinking beer at like 6:00 am and skip all our classes and just watch curling for a couple weeks, until it was time to go to a bar somewhere for happy hour and watch college hoops or NBA hoops or something like that.  The curling is absolutely as filled with tension as a soccer game or a pitchers duel in baseball.  And if you are gambling on it while drinking it's a perfect sport that lends itself easily to such debauchery.  

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15 minutes ago, thepop said:

 

Seems absolutely fucking pointless to commission a poll for that race when there is going to be a real poll done a week from now, that will tell us pretty much all we need to know about that race- as support for any other Dem has cratered down to about nothing.  

Also- plenty of supporters of one candidate or the other try to game shit and say I'm not voting if my guy doesn't make it- and then they do end up coming home.  

PS- I know- they were doing the poll b/c of the other races.  Just saying. 

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Curling is awesome and it is only a matter of geographical happenstance that pretty much everyone on this board doesn't curl. I mean you slide some big ass rocks around with your buddies while drinking.

It's like cornhole or washers except the odds are much higher that everyone gets to laugh at somebody for busting his ass during the game. What's not to love?

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Just now, Huckleberry said:

Curling is awesome and it is only a matter of geographical happenstance that pretty much everyone on this board doesn't curl. I mean you slide some big ass rocks around with your buddies while drinking.

It's like cornhole or washers except the odds are much higher that everyone gets to laugh at somebody for busting his ass during the game. What's not to love?

And gamble.  Don't forget the gamble. It's really easy to do that as there is action events on every throw and certainly on every frame (don't know what they call them- ends? Innings?)

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2 minutes ago, Bookman said:

I just polled myself and found universal support for Joe Biden, Texas barbecue, and women’s curling.

Not to sound to misogynistic but if you see it done at the highest level the men are so much better at it than the woman it's like a different sport.  Now, I assume every girl from Canada is inherently better at curling than any man from Texas, just as a point of fact, but yeah- it's night and day.  

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Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

Not to sound to misogynistic but if you see it done at the highest level the men are so much better at it than the woman it's like a different sport.  Now, I assume every girl from Canada is inherently better at curling than any man from Texas, just as a point of fact, but yeah- it's night and day.  

I mean....it's a giant fucking chunk of scottish granite.  More strength equals more control.  I bet the East German women's team was damned good back in the day.

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49 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I'm pretty opposed to all barbecue in general, so if anyone needed another reason to dislike me I'm now on the record as not liking guns (I'm not in favor of taking away your gun or anything, I just don't like them for myself) and not liking barbecue in the last 30 or 45 minutes on this board. Again, I can't claim to be a Texan, merely that I've lived here for the better part of 30 years (I'm a man- I'm 42) minus time away for law school and working in DC and MN and WI for 3 or 4 summers total.  

I love meat- and when it hits my plate I want it to be purple and still mooing, baaaaa-ing or oinking.  Barbecue doesn't give you that. I don't get it.  That or Dr. Pepper. 

But, politically I did talk about the Cunningham thing as a question of- is this actually going to be a thing?  Then the sexting came right out and buried barbecue-gate. 

So you're an elitist 🎩.  To eat rare meat you have to buy the most expensive cuts.

Smoking meat came from the poorer people taking tough/cheap meat that had to be slow cooked over a long period of time to allow it to break down the connective tissue and get soft enough to chew.  Barbacoa is the flesh around the skull of a cow. Fajitas are skit steak.  Brisket is full of connective tissue.  Problem is that you do a good enough job at it and it drives the prices for that cheap meat up.

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1 minute ago, TexasEd said:

So you're an elitist 🎩.  To eat rare meat you have to buy the most expensive cuts.

Smoking meat came from the poorer people taking tough/cheap meat that had to be slow cooked over a long period of time to allow it to break down the connective tissue and get soft enough to chew.  Barbacoa is the flesh around the skull of a cow. Fajitas are skit steak.  Brisket is full of connective tissue.  Problem is that you do a good enough job at it and it drives the prices for that cheap meat up.

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I knew that Fajitas were skirt steak and Skirt steak is supposed to be cheap but the rest of that was an education.  Hell, If you put a gun to my head I'd have guessed barbacoa came from a pig.  That's usually shredded, right? I don't know that I've ever eaten it.  

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13 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Curling is awesome and it is only a matter of geographical happenstance that pretty much everyone on this board doesn't curl. I mean you slide some big ass rocks around with your buddies while drinking.

It's like cornhole or washers except the odds are much higher that everyone gets to laugh at somebody for busting his ass during the game. What's not to love?

At some point after a Winter Olympics, I decided I was going to take up curling.  Apparently, every other guy in Dallas decided the same thing, because the ice at StarsCenter was packed with dipshits falling.

I do still watch it every four years and get to thinking, "man, I really need to take up curling."

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24 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

No. Not opposed to it in that sense (not trying to take it away from you) opposed to it in the sense that if someone says what do you want to eat- Mexican, Italian, Chinese, Sushi, or barbecue the answer will never be barbecue.  The answer is only barbecue if the question is- do you want to try that new Indian restaurant or barbecue- then I will get barbecue and order a chopped baker or something and smother cheese and sour cream and butter and sauce on said chopped baker so as to negate the dryness of the barbecue. But I'm not going to make a big issue of it or anything.  

Food is subjective for the most part so I try and not give people grief for having strong opinions, no opinions, or favorites outside of the norms. I was raised on KC style barbecue (we lived closer to KC than the Texas state line) and prefer it to the Cen-Tex style but that's all that's available here so I learned to live with it. Some of it is pretty good, but I still miss the kind I knew.

7 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Curling is awesome and it is only a matter of geographical happenstance that pretty much everyone on this board doesn't curl. I mean you slide some big ass rocks around with your buddies while drinking.

It's like cornhole or washers except the odds are much higher that everyone gets to laugh at somebody for busting his ass during the game. What's not to love?

I never tried it when we lived up north, but it was popular (relatively). I already knew how to ice skate and had skates, so we spent more time doing that. As a rink rat when I learned, skating outside was a trip. A lot of people bowled too--duckpin bowling I think it was called. We didn't have a lot of extra spending money so we didn't do a lot of things that cost much.

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24 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Don't shit on curling.  GOLL and I spent at least 2 hours getting our morning beer on at the airport bar in Montreal (flight delay) watching inter-province women's curling matches on the bar TV in February.  It was fucking riveting.

Oh, and by the way--in retrospect we should've just stayed at that bar a few more hours and caught the next flight.  Because our delay stuck us at ORD for five hours.  There may be no worse airport in America to have a 5-hour layover than ORD.

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8 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I knew that Fajitas were skirt steak and Skirt steak is supposed to be cheap but the rest of that was an education.  Hell, If you put a gun to my head I'd have guessed barbacoa came from a pig.  That's usually shredded, right? I don't know that I've ever eaten it.  

You might be thinking of Carnitas which is shredded pork cooked twice.  1st time is slow cooked in lard and the second time is to brown it in a skillet.  I'm a guero but my Tejano friends say I'm more Mexican than they are.  I eat everything except tripas.  Save that shit to make sausage.

And you know I'm messing with you, right?

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1 minute ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I was raised on KC style barbecue (we lived closer to KC than the Texas state line) and prefer it to the Cen-Tex style

I've always had a no-neg unless negged first policy but a couple of you are really testing me here.

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1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

At some point after a Winter Olympics, I decided I was going to take up curling.  Apparently, every other guy in Dallas decided the same thing, because the ice at StarsCenter was packed with dipshits falling.

I do still watch it every four years and get to thinking, "man, I really need to take up curling."

My roommate and I discussed it. Then we decided- nah- we can just drink beer and watch every 4 years instead.  My wife was not happy when I was Tivo'ing it as an adult and coming home and watching it. Something about- happy to do Texas football with you. Willing to let you do Texas hoops and the astros by yourself- start getting irritated when it's golf tournaments and the like but willing to tolerate that for the majors, but if you are going to make it a point of watching wall to wall curling after work while I take care of the kids and shit around here I'm going to lose my fucking mind and stab you with an ice pick while you sleep.  So, no more curling since that conversation.  And as a note my wife didn't actually say all those things in her out loud voice to me, but she gave me a look that was somehow able to convey all of that in 2 or 3 seconds while I settled into night 3 on the couch watching curling and cracked my first beer.  

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1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

At some point after a Winter Olympics, I decided I was going to take up curling.  Apparently, every other guy in Dallas decided the same thing, because the ice at StarsCenter was packed with dipshits falling.

I do still watch it every four years and get to thinking, "man, I really need to take up curling."

Some group (can't remember their name) pitched us on a startup investment in their curling center in Sunset Valley about ~6-8 years ago.  We didn't do startups but looked at maybe just the real estate transaction and groundlease it to them.  Worse case, we turn it into a Sunset Valley strip center because they don't have any down there and were starved for chain retail.  Anyway, I'm not the guy who predicts what market trends are gonna do based on consumer whims.  Some of the financials made sense, but I had to speak up and just wonder "Curling...in Sunset Valley, TX...for $50/month in membership and $5 beers?  With a $1.5mm build-out?"  Yeah...no.  But if you were to call me and say "Lobo, we're going curling tonight.  Bring booze."  I'd absolutely go and pay whatever they asked at the door.  /csb

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3 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Some group (can't remember their name) pitched us on a startup investment in their curling center in Sunset Valley about ~6-8 years ago.  We didn't do startups but looked at maybe just the real estate transaction and groundlease it to them.  Worse case, we turn it into a Sunset Valley strip center because they don't have any down there and were starved for chain retail.  Anyway, I'm not the guy who predicts what market trends are gonna do based on consumer whims.  Some of the financials made sense, but I had to speak up and just wonder "Curling...in Sunset Valley, TX...for $50/month in membership and $5 beers?  With a $1.5mm build-out?"  Yeah...no.  But if you were to call me and say "Lobo, we're going curling tonight.  Bring booze."  I'd absolutely go and pay whatever they asked at the door.  /csb

 

My friends and I had the exact story as Ghost of LL and his buddies did. I'm sure every group of guys around 2008 or 2012 had the same thought - let's take up curling. It's like bowling but hopefully without the sadness and despair of a bowling alley!

Anyway, I lived in the apartments right across Brodie from that Brodie/William Cannon HEB, and we were all set to dominate that Sunset Valley center. Then it took forever to build and we got tied down and bought houses and forgot about it. Whatevrer happened to that thing, did it never take off?

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3 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

You might be thinking of Carnitas which is shredded port cooked twice.  1st time is slow cooked in lard and the second time is to brown it in a skillet.  I'm a guero but my Tejano friends say I'm more Mexican than they are.  I eat everything except tripas.  Save that shit to make sausage.

And you know I'm messing with you, right?

I do know, yes.  And that's right, I am thinking of Carnitas.  

Now- Chorizo is sausage, right?  What the heck do they do with that? B/c I love Chorizo and egg breakfast tacos and then usually, at some point in time, it's like my stomach is exploding and I think I'm going to die.  But it tastes so good going down. And literally I can't think of another food that does that to me. But Chorizo does it every time.  What's the secret there?

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1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I do know, yes.  And that's right, I am thinking of Carnitas.  

Now- Chorizo is sausage, right?  What the heck do they do with that? B/c I love Chorizo and egg breakfast tacos and then usually, at some point in time, it's like my stomach is exploding and I think I'm going to die.  But it tastes so good going down. And literally I can't think of another food that does that to me. But Chorizo does it every time.  What's the secret there?

Grease.

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3 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

I've always had a no-neg unless negged first policy but a couple of you are really testing me here.

I completely understand the Texas passion and loyalty to their barbecue. And my preference only applies to ribs, not brisket in which I do give Texas the nod. It is quite difficult for one to abandon the foods that remind them of their youth even if others don't share the opinion.  I've never quite understood people that care for circus peanuts, but they're out there, god bless 'em and I leave them alone to enjoy their fascination.

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