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45 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yep, somehow we weren't feeling the need to execute these people in the past.  Not sure what changed in the past 2-3 months.

I'm not telling anyone anything they don't already know, but it's simple and simplistic.

The Drug War is a failure to date.  Drugs are a big problem here (and likely will continue to be one until we seriously address the demand side of it).

A simplistic view of it is we're not doing enough, we're insufficiently warlike in the War.

So, it'd be really cool if we employed some air power, guided munitions, and maybe some tanks against the cartels in Mexico and elsewhere.  America, fuck yeah!

But, there are massive diplomatic and international real-world problems with doing that.  Violations of sovereignty and such inconvenient, globalist commie notions.

So, this is a chickenshit and even less effective way of escalating the Drug War into something resembling an actual war.

It's this, without claymation:

Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer to
America, F*ck YEAH!
So lick my butt, and suck on my balls,
America, F*ck YEAH!
What you going to do when we come for you now,
It’s the dream that we all share; it’s the hope for tomorrow

F*ck YEAH!

McDonalds, F*ck YEAH!
Wal-Mart, F*ck YEAH!
The Gap, F*ck YEAH!
Baseball, F*ck YEAH!
NFL, F*ck, YEAH!
Rock and roll, F*ck YEAH!
The Internet, F*ck YEAH!
Slavery, F*ck YEAH!

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

Weird how no reporter has asked, "Since when is the punishment for drug trafficking death without trial?"

Cops have been summarily executing people for shit like selling cigarettes for decades, so ... forever?

this is america GIF

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Posted
18 minutes ago, miguelito said:

A lot is being made of the second strike, but the first strike was pretty goddamned fucked up, too.

I think it's largely because while the first strike was illegal, it was within the general "shape" and norms of armed conflict. The second strike breaks every norm of lawful armed conflict, and actively makes US sailors less safe at sea. If we were to enter a naval conflict, our adversaries have precedent to airstrike shipwrecked sailors. AND it's fucking ghoulish.

It's what we have more to look forward to, I'm afraid. Who is gonna stop them? The supreme court? They're purging any officer, no matter that rank or service record, that disagrees with them

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16 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I think it's largely because while the first strike was illegal, it was within the general "shape" and norms of armed conflict. The second strike breaks every norm of lawful armed conflict, and actively makes US sailors less safe at sea. If we were to enter a naval conflict, our adversaries have precedent to airstrike shipwrecked sailors. AND it's fucking ghoulish.

It's what we have more to look forward to, I'm afraid. Who is gonna stop them? The supreme court? They're purging any officer, no matter that rank or service record, that disagrees with them

Yeah, we've been kind of dicking around with international law in our various undeclared wars against non-state enemies for a long time.

But the second strike is beyond the pale.

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41 minutes ago, miguelito said:

I just don't want the bullshit of the first strike to be normalized. 

Welcome to the firehose of bullshit. It's the main mechanism used by Putin and other totalitarian leaders to keep pressing forward. 

The pace of oppression outstrips our ability to understand it. The unrelenting torrent of evil keeps pushing the door open further for more evil.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Man the video must be far worse than we thought.  If it had exonerated them we would have seen it already.  

Since it took four fucking strikes to do the job, id imagine they're not keen to show the poor marksmanship 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, choripan said:

If this allows me to make a "Sabbatical to Venezuela to find myself" thread, I just might -- might! -- be on board.

If we take out Maduro it could turn into what Iraq looked like after we took down their government and left a power vacuum for a while, just with cartels and various other groups. Iraq in 2025 is like on their 8th or 9th government since we took out Saddam, and for a long time they were bouncing back and forth between governments trying to reform the country and governments just trying to keep the lights on and water flowing. 

So you might be waiting a decade or more to go on that sabbatical.

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Posted

Cross posting. 

Yeah, routine training. I wonder what for? 

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military flew a pair of fighter jets over the Gulf of Venezuela on Tuesday in what appears to be the closest American warplanes have come to the South American country’s airspace since the start of the Trump administration’s pressure campaign.

Public flight tracking websites showed a pair of U.S. Navy F/A-18 fighter jets fly over the Gulf — a body of water bounded by Venezuela and only about 150 miles at its widest point — and spend more than 30 minutes flying over water. A U.S. defense official confirmed that a pair of jets conducted a “routine training flight” in the area.

https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-us-military-trump-fa18-fighter-jets-06fd7cdc5ac26e7a46165431b95508b0

 

For Reference. 

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Posted (edited)
57 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Cross posting. 

Yeah, routine training. I wonder what for? 

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military flew a pair of fighter jets over the Gulf of Venezuela on Tuesday in what appears to be the closest American warplanes have come to the South American country’s airspace since the start of the Trump administration’s pressure campaign.

Public flight tracking websites showed a pair of U.S. Navy F/A-18 fighter jets fly over the Gulf — a body of water bounded by Venezuela and only about 150 miles at its widest point — and spend more than 30 minutes flying over water. A U.S. defense official confirmed that a pair of jets conducted a “routine training flight” in the area.

https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-us-military-trump-fa18-fighter-jets-06fd7cdc5ac26e7a46165431b95508b0

 

For Reference. 

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I think you mean the newly renamed "The Gulf of Southern  South Way Southier United States"

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Posted (edited)

Haven't seen this elsewhere yet, but Bloomberg rarely gets it wrong.  I have a feeling the "routine training flight" mentioned above is related to this.

 

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US forces have intercepted and seized a sanctioned oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, according to people familiar with the matter, a move that marks a serious escalation of tensions between the two countries.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-10/us-seizes-oil-tanker-off-the-coast-of-venezuela?embedded-checkout=true

 

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Posted
36 minutes ago, sasquatch69 said:

Haven't seen this elsewhere yet, but Bloomberg rarely gets it wrong.  I have a feeling the "routine training flight" mentioned above is related to this.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-10/us-seizes-oil-tanker-off-the-coast-of-venezuela?embedded-checkout=true

 

No Paywall. 

Spoiler
US forces have intercepted and seized a sanctioned oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, according to people familiar with the matter, a move that marks a serious escalation of tensions between the two countries.
The White House didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. State oil company Petroleos de Venezuela SA and Venezuela’s oil and information ministries didn’t immediately reply to requests for comment.
The seizure may make it much harder for Venezuela to export its oil, as other shippers are now likely to be more reluctant to load its cargoes. Most Venezuelan oil goes to China, usually through intermediaries, at steep discounts owing to sanctions risk.
 
The Maduro government has characterized US actions as a grab for Venezuela’s oil reserves, among the biggest in the world. The tanker seizure is coming to light on the same day María Corina Machado, who leads the Venezuelan opposition to Maduro, was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
In recent months, Maduro has called on Venezuela’s citizens to unite against what he said were US threats and to enlist in the citizen militia. He has also deployed troops, ships, aircraft and drones to the border with Colombia, some states along the coast and an island.
PDVSA, the state oil company, controls the petroleum industry in the country, it works with international partners including Houston-based Chevron Corp. to drill in many parts of Venezuela. Under the current arrangement, Chevron pays the government with a percentage of the oil it produces alongside PDVSA via the companies’ joint ventures. A license issued by the US Treasury exempts the US company from sanctions.

https://archive.is/r9kYb

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"As you probably know, we’ve just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela," Trump said. "Large tanker, very large, largest one ever seized actually."

Trump did not provide details on the matter but said that it was an “interesting day.” He also hinted that more developments may unfold on the matter as “other things are happening.”
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Posted
13 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

We're really going to do it.

We are just over a week out from the Epstein Files, and the Ghislaine Maxwell judge has ordered documents in her case relating to Epstein to be released as well.

Well it's a good thing the trump administration has a good record of faithfully following court orders then

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