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4 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

How much did you lose betting on Duke to win? Because everyone had that. 
Every coach but 1 loses in March. There’s currently not a single coach alive in the tourney that can say they made it thru March without losing, even once. 

I had Duke ML in a few parlays that would have hit big if they won but I also hedged with TN +4.5 or whatever and came out even on that game.

Whereas yesterday I rode the FAU ML and hedged with FAU +5 in some parlays.

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I was pulling for RB last night, but watching Tenn meltdown on the way to FAU ripping off a 15-2 run before RB took a TO was way too familiar. RB has apparently never figured out that MM games != regular season games.

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I can't kill Rick Barnes for this one because they did lose their PG for the season. I didn't even expect them to win their first game.

However, there were very Barnesian elements to how and why FAU won that game.

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39 minutes ago, The Dog said:

and #13 in the NET ranking - should have been seeded a lot higher.

Goddamit, how are so many people so bad at statistics?

 

Kenpom updates after every game. FAU has won 3 games in the tournament, obviously they have moved up in kenpom’s ratings. 
 

The only Kenpom rating that should be correlated to seeding is the ratings after the conference tournament games. FAU was 26th; so probably closer to a 7 seed. 

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1 minute ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Goddamit, how are so many people so bad at statistics?

 

Kenpom updates after every game. FAU has won 3 games in the tournament, obviously they have moved up in kenpom’s ratings. 
 

The only Kenpom rating that should be correlated to seeding is the ratings after the conference tournament games. FAU was 26th; so probably closer to a 7 seed. 

I was quoting the NET rankings which haven't been updated since they announced the draw. 

and to be clear I'm not giving Barnes a pass - they went on a big scoring drought and let FAU into the game.

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10 hours ago, MotownHorn said:

That’s incorrect 

The metric is performance relative to seed

A 4 seed going to the elite 8 would be over performing his seed 

He performed as expected this year so actually better than usual! 😂

Are you referring to this?

 

 

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8 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Is it really over performing when the 1 seed was gone round 1 in your region? They played a 9 seed as a 4 seed last night. You absolutely have to win that game to get to the Elite 8.

Has Rick ever outperformed his seed in his tournament career? How many times in any given game in the tournament has he won the game as the lower seed?

That stat is insane and shows how far away he is from a good coach. He's not bad but he's not a good tournament coach. He has as many Final 4s as Shaka. Outside of that 5 year stretch where we made a Final 4 and two other Elite 8, what has he did in his career? His Final 4 was 20 years ago. He had KD and got blown out 2nd round by USC. His last time he got out of the 1st weekend is now 15 years ago.
 

Pretty sure he got to the sweet 16 a few years ago and of course he did it again this year. 

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tony bennett and matt painter are way worse than rick barnes. look at the team tennessee was fielding. going to the S16 is inarguably overachieving for that team, and yet it will be/is being treated as another postseason failure for barnes. he's a really good regular season coach, and a mediocre and underachieving tourney coach. there's still guys who have done far worse.

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