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5 hours ago, 'stache said:

It makes a ton of difference if they "show up to work," or more importantly if they were actually working when there. It matters that he was already involved in the coaching business. It's not like he was sacking groceries before we paid him $200K to be an assistant coach. Moving from a videographer to the lowest paid assistant coach is a natural progression for a young guy in the business. And by all accounts, he was a good coach. Coaching bigs was a major part of his job and we had some really good play from them, including Kalib Boone who showed enormous improvement from last year to this year. 

Sure, its true, the chances of him coaching here are zero if we hadn't been recruiting his brother. But in the realm of these types of schemes, it stinks far less than others, and is just part of the game now. I expect he will either go into agent work full time or eventually return to coaching. Again, he's not some deadbeat brother who we paid to show up, he was already involved in a coaching career and by all accounts is more than competent. And he will almost certainly make a lot more money right away working with his brother than continuing the assistant coach route, and he stays involved, and will make relationships. It seems like a decent move if you can get it. 

Also, what society are you living in that people don't often succeed based on family relationships? It happens all the effing time. Like every minute of every day someone is offered a job they don't qualify for because their father/aunt/cousin is a big wig. Are you under some illusion that we live in any form of true meritocracy?

So are you saying Adrian Peterson did deserve that job at Big Red Auto?

 

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I wouldn't freak out too much about losing players and recruits if I were Tech.  There are currently 1,905 players in the transfer portal across all levels of college basketball.  Just about every team in the nation is undergoing huge turnover.  Our own team could see just about a full reboot.

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That’s a valid point. But Shaka to Beard is a lot different than an internal promotion. Unless all those guys were just there for Beard and no one on his coaching staff, it says something about their desire to play for Adams

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7 hours ago, 'stache said:

If he doesn't get drafted he will be playing for a different college next season. If you were being sarcastic, sorry for not catching it.

The way he wrote it...yes I was making light of his "process," as it was all in one sentence.

He should have just said good-fucking-bye.

Good luck at your next school, dude.

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1 hour ago, HookEm said:

I wouldn't freak out too much about losing players and recruits if I were Tech.  There are currently 1,905 players in the transfer portal across all levels of college basketball.  Just about every team in the nation is undergoing huge turnover.  Our own team could see just about a full reboot.

I keep telling myself this, as well.  Nobody outside of true insiders knew who the fuck Matt Mooney or Tyreek Owens were, and in one season they became major contributors in Tech's best run ever.  Some of the players leaving, could also be blessings in disguise. Shannon was probably leaving regardless. .McClung got beat up against the WVU's, KU's, and Baylor's of this league.  I also liked his effort/ motor, but his decision-making wasn't always the best.  I don't see how he gets drafted at all unless he magically refines his shot.  Would love to have seen him play another season in red &black, but alas, it is not to be. Kyler Edwards has his moments.  Joke is that he always came up big when we didn't need it.  He was very inconsistent to say the least. Peavy always seamed on the verge of exploding. He's athletic as hell.  On the defensive end, virtually every game he'd give about 1.5 stupid fouls on opponents' rebounds or whatever.  Maybe that's a shot at Adams' coaching defense, IDK.  I do know it got old as hell seeing Peavy foul a lot without gaining anything out of it. If he turns the corner offensively, his ceiling is very, very high.  He came in as a possible one-and-done, and didn't come close.

Tech has a good nucleus around which to build.  They've certainly rebuilt rosters in short order the past 3-4 years.  'Twill be interesting to see if Mark Adams can build on the program's momentum. Out of those 1905 transfer players, what percentage are worth a fuck?  Are they open to hard coaching, because that isn't leaving the program.  The players who stayed aren't going to let newcomers drop in and pussify what they've worked so hard to build/ become a part of. 

I am truly looking forward to next season.  We may still not have every answer after 2021, at least with regard to Adams and Tech Men's basketball. Maybe someone will pick us seventh again...or last.  We'll see.

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So are you saying Adrian Peterson did deserve that job at Big Red Auto?
 
I Keed, I keed!

That whole “show up to work” thing might have been the problem.

I keed, I keed! Well, not really. But I typed that with a smile on my face.
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2 hours ago, Satchel said:

Why would Waco be easier to recruit to than Lubbock? I don’t get that.

 

1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

Because it’s closer to Dallas, Houston and Austin.  Lubbock is in the middle of nowhere.  

Baylor has Jesus. He lives in Waco. 

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11 hours ago, Satchel said:

Why would Waco be easier to recruit to than Lubbock? I don’t get that.

Location, location, location. The city of Waco isn't easier than the city of Lubbock. The part that is easier is the Ferrell Center is 94 miles to Dallas,  100 miles to Austin, and 182 miles to Houston. United Supermarkets Arena to Dallas is 348 miles, 375 miles to Austin, and 518 miles to Houston. 

 

I think that's a more important factor in football than basketball though. It seems there are more basketball players that are traveling far from home for school. 

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15 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Because it’s closer to Dallas, Houston and Austin.  Lubbock is in the middle of nowhere.  

 

3 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

Location, location, location. The city of Waco isn't easier than the city of Lubbock. The part that is easier is the Ferrell Center is 94 miles to Dallas,  100 miles to Austin, and 182 miles to Houston. United Supermarkets Arena to Dallas is 348 miles, 375 miles to Austin, and 518 miles to Houston. 

 

I think that's a more important factor in football than basketball though. It seems there are more basketball players that are traveling far from home for school. 

I still don’t get why proximity to population centers is necessarily a selling point. Lubbock has all of the advantages of a large college town. You don’t have to drive to Dallas to eat at the Cheesecake Factory.

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4 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

Location, location, location. The city of Waco isn't easier than the city of Lubbock. The part that is easier is the Ferrell Center is 94 miles to Dallas,  100 miles to Austin, and 182 miles to Houston. United Supermarkets Arena to Dallas is 348 miles, 375 miles to Austin, and 518 miles to Houston. 

 

I think that's a more important factor in football than basketball though. It seems there are more basketball players that are traveling far from home for school. 

Lubbock is still kind of expensive to fly to and 1.5-3 hours of driving is much easier than 5-8 hours. 

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47 minutes ago, Satchel said:

 

I still don’t get why proximity to population centers is necessarily a selling point. Lubbock has all of the advantages of a large college town. You don’t have to drive to Dallas to eat at the Cheesecake Factory.

Lubbock has a metro pop of around 311k to Waco's 273k so there isn't that much of a difference in size and I'm sure your average recruit that only sees the campus and few curated highlights wouldn't be able to see the difference. 

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4 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

Lubbock has a metro pop of around 311k to Waco's 273k so there isn't that much of a difference in size and I'm sure your average recruit that only sees the campus and few curated highlights wouldn't be able to see the difference. 

Lubbock is the third largest city in the Big 12 (263,00 as of 2020) and is the quintessential college town. Apparently, a good number of the students who attend Tech agree:

 

 

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Micah Peavy commits to...wait for it....

 

 

 

 

TCU.     but why?.gif

 

Also Mark Adams picks up flip from prior USC commit and Last Chance U guy, KJ Allen, generally regarded as a 3* guy.

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2 hours ago, Satchel said:

Lubbock is the third largest city in the Big 12 (263,00 as of 2020) and is the quintessential college town. Apparently, a good number of the students who attend Tech agree:

 

 

Whose record? Also if you’re letting in a greater amount of people of course there’s going to be higher numbers than the past. 

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On 4/13/2021 at 7:58 PM, slorch said:

Micah Peavy commits to...wait for it....

 

 

 

 

TCU.     but why?.gif

 

Also Mark Adams picks up flip from prior USC commit and Last Chance U guy, KJ Allen, generally regarded as a 3* guy.

Weird get for the Frogs. Guessing he wanted to play closer to home, dad, etc. 

 

Excited about our new assistant coaches. 9.95 boys on the Tech board are bullish on the roster. My expectations are at .500 ball. 

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Chandler Jacobs, D-II All-American, LSC DPOTY, and Academic POTY commits to Tech, transferring from Dallas Baptist.

Averaged 20.8ppg, 7.4 reb, 2.7assists, and 2.5 steals while also shooting 45% from 3.

Interesting dynamic...with obvious "who'd he do it against"  risk, but could fit right in Mark Adams' wheelhouse too.

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What a crock:
 

Fostering a Christ-first, others-second team model, the Baylor University Bears won their first NCAA men’s basketball national title earlier this month, completing a championship turnaround over 17 years after scandal and murder rocked the program. 

But unlike many other Division I basketball teams, the Bears took steps to ensure Christ was at the center of their program, not selfish ambition.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/baylor-coach-credits-christ-centered-program-after-championship.html?uid=09f617e08b&utm_source=The+Christian+Post+List&utm_campaign=CP-Newsletter&utm_medium=email

 

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On 4/19/2021 at 9:35 PM, Satchel said:

What a crock:
 

Fostering a Christ-first, others-second team model, the Baylor University Bears won their first NCAA men’s basketball national title earlier this month, completing a championship turnaround over 17 years after scandal and murder rocked the program. 

But unlike many other Division I basketball teams, the Bears took steps to ensure Christ was at the center of their program, not selfish ambition.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/baylor-coach-credits-christ-centered-program-after-championship.html?uid=09f617e08b&utm_source=The+Christian+Post+List&utm_campaign=CP-Newsletter&utm_medium=email

 

I dont even have to read it. They won because they finally played defense and offensive efficiency was superb. 

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I've always thought that Baylor had the potential to be an absolute powerhouse in sports.  45-50% of Black Americans identify as Baptist - and it is probably higher than that in Baylor's recruiting grounds.  Think about what a monumental advantage that could be.  They should be able to use religion as a recruiting tool in a way that even Notre Dame couldn't touch.  Odds are that just about every key recruit will have a parent or grandparent that is Baptist (not to mention the player's beliefs). 

But nope.  Instead they have a reputation for rape, drug dealing and murder... with maybe a little cheating thrown in for good measure.  All the while casting an air of religious superiority. F em.

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That’s one of the most appealing aspects of Christianity / religion for many... being able to do whatever you want under the cloak of righteousness and then asking for forgiveness once you get caught. It’s really is a nice loophole. 
 

this is the cloak room, correct?

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5 hours ago, Doyle Hargreaves said:

I dont even have to read it. They won because they finally played defense and offensive efficiency was superb. 

No its bc of Jesus! 

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Just now, DeadArmadillo said:

Only 280 characters.  Trying to be efficient

The saddest thing is, a bunch of WBB players who transferred to Duke - DUKE! - also kept saying "apart of" 

Dumbass kids. 

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1 hour ago, HookEm said:

I thought McClung pulled his name out of the portal?  I think it is NBA or Tech for McClung now.

McClung likely pulled his name out because he would have had to sit a year since he already transferred once and had a waiver approved.  Once the NCAA announced the one-time transfer rule was retroactive, meaning if you did it already and didn't sit out, you would this time, it didn't make a lot of sense for McClung. 

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On 4/24/2021 at 4:45 AM, slorch said:

Nm.  answered above...

Turns out Mac like could have gotten a second waiver due to the coaching change at Tech, but opted against it.   I'm glad - he makes Tech fun to root against because he's such a douchey little flopper. 

 

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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Turns out Mac like could have gotten a second waiver due to the coaching change at Tech, but opted against it.   I'm glad - he makes Tech fun to root against because he's such a douchey little flopper. 

 

But I was told Mark Adams was the real coach and he remains there.

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