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Just now, washparkhorn said:

He knows he doesn't have a coherent argument in favor of Trump. So he gets angry and emotes . . .

Trump has painted so many into little tiny corners, told them to hold the rope, and then skips off to be with his billionaire buddies who laugh at Trump supporters. It is a bit sad. They will understand at some point how they much they were betrayed. 

 

No.  I don't think they will.

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No one gives a shit if they're on other peoples' ignore lists. Why do people announce it so melodramatically?

lol Christ

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7 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

No.  I don't think they will.

Spoiler

Some day I will tell the stories of speaking with Trump women about Bernie in their homes and want they really want. 

Perhaps not with the male Trump supporters.

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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

Yeah--I'm not open to Bernie.  And here's the thing--I'm not open to Bernie in large part because his supporters are a bunch of lunatics.

If Bernie had a normal set of supporters, it's hard to say whether I would be open to supporting him.  But he doesn't, and i'm not.

Dude, vote for whoever you want, just stop with this disingenuous crap because you were arguing with bad_teammate for the past several months, it's a freaking internet forum where people have passionate beliefs. We weren't the ones lecturing others about how their supposed refusal to vote for Hillary gave us Trump, it'd be the height of hypocrisy for us to turn around and blame you for not delivering Bernie and bad_teammate isn't doing that.

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1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

You know what--I'm done with this.  You're nothing but a troll, and I refuse to engage in this further.

Say hi to swam on my "ignore" list.

swams long gone. Rip

you’re a good guy, don’t let anyone annoy you to the point of ignoring them.  Its just the net. 

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1 hour ago, washparkhorn said:

Preferred candidate? Thanks!

I am not locked into one yet.  I am a life long Democrat so I will vote for whomever goes against Trump.   As a life long Democrat Bernie would be my last choice since he isn’t even a member of the Democratic Party.  That being said even if he joined it I do not care for most of his ideas.  I lean more moderate than to the left I guess.  Right now I want someone that can win and my gut tells me that is Bloomberg if he adds a African American woman as VP  (someone like Stacy Abrams).  I think Bloomberg will do some stuff on gun control, the environment and bring normalcy back to being President.  Maybe even get the ACA back on track with some changes and a public option as a choice would be fine with me.  I don’t want Medicare 4 all, free college or any of that.  This country has so many morons I could be persuaded for free clown or barber college though.  Maybe clown barbers is what this country needs to help us heal.

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1 minute ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

I am not locked into one yet.  I am a life long Democrat so I will vote for whomever goes against Trump.   As a life long Democrat Bernie would be my last choice since he isn’t even a member of the Democratic Party.  That being said even if he joined it I do not care for most of his ideas.  I lean more moderate than to the left I guess.  Right now I want someone that can win and my gut tells me that is Bloomberg if he adds a African American woman as VP  (someone like Stacy Abrams).  I think Bloomberg will do some stuff on gun control, the environment and bring normalcy back to being President.  Maybe even get the ACA back on track with some changes and a public option as a choice would be fine with me.  I don’t want Medicare 4 all, free college or any of that.  This country has so many morons I could be persuaded for free clown or barber college though.  Maybe clown barbers is what this country needs to help us heal.

I sincerely appreciate the response. 

Just one small clarification - Sanders is a member of the Democratic Party. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5759487-Bernie-Sanders-signs-DNC-loyalty-pledge.html

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2 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

I'm not "supporting" anybody right now.  I'm fairly undecided.

I'm currently most supportive of Klobuchar.  But I'm far from sold on her.  And anyway, I think it's highly unlikely that she will get the nomination.

I've gone through about a half-dozen possible candidates to support, from Beto (last March) to Kamala (last Summer) to Warren (last August) to Pete (last September) back to Warren (for that one crazy week in late September) then to Biden (when I got truly depressed and was like "oh, fuck it") then to Contested-Convention-Hooray! and now maybe to Klobuchar.

As I have pointed out on the Bloomberg thread, I'm not a fan of his.  Between stop-and-frisk and his sexual harassment problems and his general assholery, I don't see myself voting for him.

Can I talk you into a senator from Vermont named Bernard Sanders?

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“rat”, “snake”. It’s like they don’t realize they are using tricks right out of Donald’s playbook.

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7 minutes ago, Rougarou said:

“rat”, “snake”. It’s like they don’t realize they are using tricks right out of Donald’s playbook.

My fave thing was watching the Bros foam at the mouth and shriek at Harris, Pete and Biden and even Warren moving away from M4A as disingenuous flip floppers. 

Now? It’s good politics. Compromise. Position of strength. 

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aight Joe. And if you don’t? Drop out and endorse The Klob Mom for Super Tuesday 

 

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3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

My fave thing was watching the Bros foam at the mouth and shriek at Harris, Pete and Biden and even Warren moving away from M4A as disingenuous flip floppers. 

Now? It’s good politics. Compromise. Position of strength. 

You seriously, seriously, don't think there's a huge difference between starting from the point of accepting that there will have to be something watered beforehand because it will be easier to compromise versus doing everything you can to pass the original bill before you try to compromise? I don't think any of us Bernie supporters here ever said that M4A would unequivocally get passed without any changes and I don't know almost any at all who have. I'd seriously like to see some receipts.

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19 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Get absolutely turbofucked, rat.

why is everybody being mean to me and starting fights with me when all i do is try to start rational discussions?!

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swams long gone. Rip
you’re a good guy, don’t let anyone annoy you to the point of ignoring them.  Its just the net. 

Yeah, but it’s for the best. There’s a fair chance that Bernie is going to be the nominee. And if he’s the nominee, then I have to vote for him.

So given that, it’s for the best that I ignore bt, because he makes me absolutely fucking hate Bernie.


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46 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

swams long gone. Rip

you’re a good guy, don’t let anyone annoy you to the point of ignoring them.  Its just the net. 

Actually, do you have anyone on ignore?

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3 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

why is everybody being mean to me and starting fights with me when all i do is try to start rational discussions?!

When have I ever said anything like this?

Sometimes I start shit and I don't pretend that I don't. Self-awareness, bud, try it out.

10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

My fave thing was watching the Bros foam at the mouth and shriek at Harris, Pete and Biden and even Warren moving away from M4A as disingenuous flip floppers. 

Now? It’s good politics. Compromise. Position of strength. 

AOC isn't "moving away from M4A", she is pointing out how negotiations happen.

Warren straight up changed her plan from M4A to M4A, Eventually. She adjusted her starting position.

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21 minutes ago, Rougarou said:

“rat”, “snake”. It’s like they don’t realize they are using tricks right out of Donald’s playbook.

Before Donald Trump, everyone loved each other and it was puppies and smiles and fields of shining clover. :(

Fucking Bernie :(

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AOC showing more basic understanding of legislating and negotiation than all the centrists combined.


And all the Bernie bros combined

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4 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Actually, do you have anyone on ignore?

Nope. Never will either. I like to hear from all, including the trolls, just in case I might want to troll them back. 

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2 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Nope. Never will either. I like to hear from all, including the trolls, just in case I might want to troll them back. 

Actually this is my take as well. Sometimes it's a beating, but I feel better for it.

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NYT has started the co-endorsement bullshit. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:


Yeah, but it’s for the best. There’s a fair chance that Bernie is going to be the nominee. And if he’s the nominee, then I have to vote for him.

So given that, it’s for the best that I ignore bt, because he makes me absolutely fucking hate Bernie.


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Well if ignoring BT forces you to vote for Bernie if he is in fact the nominee, then ignore BT. Defeating trump is more important than some internet poster.

And I say this as someone who both wholeheartedly supported Bernie in 2016 because I thought he had a better chance to beat trump than Hillary and thought trump could win and who doesn’t agree with many of Bernie’s positions either.

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

NYT has started the co-endorsement bullshit. 

 

What happened to the whites of his eyes?

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6 minutes ago, troph said:

And all the Bernie bros combined

 

You'll get through the stages of grief and I'll be here for you at the end of it.

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

NYT has started the co-endorsement bullshit. 

They encourage candidates to stay in, which at this point probably only helps Bernie.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

NYT has started the co-endorsement bullshit. 

 

It such a perfect distillation of the time we are in.  Everyone is so fucking cowed regarding race, age, gender, sexual orientation...that making an actual decision on an endorsement is impossible.

Protip: It gave us Trump.

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30 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

When have I ever said anything like this?

Sometimes I start shit and I don't pretend that I don't. Self-awareness, bud, try it out.

for the 786th time, you should start to realize when somebody is having some fun with you....bud.

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Strategy question: Since Bloomberg is positioning himself to take the voters that Pete, Amy, and Joe can grab, why aren't they going after Mike?

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11 hours ago, Skipper said:

I love how the far left on this board act like Bernie actually represents the Democratic Party considering his platform does not remotely resemble the democratic party historically.  Most of my immediate family are democrats and have voted democrat their entire lives.  They all think Bernie is batshit crazy.   

I'm not a Bernie voter.  I've stated who I'm voting for two dozen times on this board.  However, I'll admit that he is my second choice.  I'd rather move left than right if (when) my candidate loses.

Obama wanted a public option with the ACA and Hillary/Bill were pushing for universal health care 30 years ago.  The Democrats were always pro-union/workers' rights.  I'm pretty sure they're the only party at the moment (that can win) that cares about the environment.  I seriously doubt Bernie will pass any tax rates higher than what existed at some point in the 20th century before our decades long experiment in failed trickle down economics.  He doesn't seem too out of line.

Yeah, the far left Democrats are very scary and radical. We should be very afraid of the FDR-type Democrats running and nominate someone that the new George. W. Bush wing of the Democratic party feels more comfortable and safe with.

 

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2 minutes ago, Tom said:

I'm not a Bernie voter.  I've stated who I'm voting for two dozen times on this board.  However, I'll admit that he is my second choice.  I'd rather move left than right if (when) my candidate loses.

Obama wanted a public option with the ACA and Hillary/Bill were pushing for universal health care 30 years ago.  The Democrats were always pro-union/workers' rights.  I'm pretty sure they're the only party at the moment (that can win) that cares about the environment.  I seriously doubt Bernie will pass any tax rates higher than what existed at some point in the 20th century before our decades long experiment in failed trickle down economics.

Yeah, the far left Democrats are very scary and radical. We should be very afraid of the FDR-type Democrats running and nominate someone that the new George. W. Bush wing of the Democratic party feels more comfortable and safe with.

 

Is that the Nazi War Criminal, Not My President, Retard George W, Bush wing of the Democratic party?

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Is that the Nazi War Criminal, Not My President, Retard George W, Bush wing of the Democratic party?

 

 

The Never Trumper wing. They don’t know how to beat Trump. They shouldn’t be the group calling the shots in the nominee voting. No offense to them. Glad they will vote D - if they do. 

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Trump up 47-45 on Bernie in Texas. Bernie is also now leading the state for the Dem primary.

 

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Re: the Tex. Tribune Poll - numbers from January 31 to February 9. A lot happened during that time and after. 

Good numbers for Bernie. He should still be up, but I suspect you will see a lot of Biden support has moved to Bloomberg and Buttigieg, with a little drift lower for Warren if you compare these numbers to trends. I would expect Amy has picked up some of Warren and Biden's supporters (more Biden than Warren). I would have it Bernie, Buttigieg, Bloomberg®, Biden, Warren and Amy right now. But Super Tuesday is still a long way off.  The narratives forming around the ascendency of Bloomberg; the battle for the center lane between Buttigieg, Warren, Amy and Biden; and the structural advantages built by the Sanders campaign (and whether it can keep that edge over Bloomberg). 

Anything can and will happen. Biden, Warren, Buttigieg and Amy are still potent. But Bloomberg has unleashed a dollop of his vast wealth and they stand in his way. Good to see some Biden folks fighting back against the Bloomberg narrative.

Never Trumper J. Rubin narrative on Biden:

Meanwhile at Trump-Donating MSNBC - the newest polls are in!!!!

 

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Goldman Sachs Lloyd Blankfein - not really good at anything other than playing a big role in crashing the economy in 2008. But don't worry, he is okay. GS got a socialist government bailout when they crashed.

Welfare for the Rich; Austerity for the Rest of Us. 

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You can tell Bloomberg is one of the good billionaires because he names all of his businesses after himself.  He’s very transparent.

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10 hours ago, Js1 said:

My fave thing was watching the Bros foam at the mouth and shriek at Harris, Pete and Biden and even Warren moving away from M4A as disingenuous flip floppers. 

Now? It’s good politics. Compromise. Position of strength. 

Politics is fucking awesome.

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Any poll that has Biden over 15 I find extremely hard to believe.  Most of them are from 2 weeks ago and there has been a lot of movement.  I can't imagine why anyone is supporting him at this point.  NV and SC will be interesting because that is (supposedly) his wheelhouse and if comes in flat, then he should drop out before Super Tuesday.

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11 hours ago, Js1 said:

My fave thing was watching the Bros foam at the mouth and shriek at Harris, Pete and Biden and even Warren moving away from M4A as disingenuous flip floppers. 

Now? It’s good politics. Compromise. Position of strength. 

M4A was always BERNIE’S branding strategy to acquire the presidency.

All the other candidates openly advocating for M4A were FAKES because they weren’t High Sparrow Bernard! The one true savior of healthcare! 

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10 hours ago, immortal13 said:

What happened to the whites of his eyes?

His body has become a vessel of Classyalabolas - the dog griffin 25th Spirit of Salomon and Earl of Manslaughter.

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10 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

M4A was always BERNIE’S branding strategy to acquire the presidency.

All the other candidates openly advocating for M4A were FAKES because they weren’t High Sparrow Bernard! The one true savior of healthcare! 

Glad to see you back and just as mad as ever.

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Yeah, that requires reporting on the media's part. Bloomberg looks at least 10 years younger than both Sanders and Biden. Voters aren't going to research that stuff.

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8 hours ago, Bruh Man said:

Trump up 47-45 on Bernie in Texas. Bernie is also now leading the state for the Dem primary.

Lots to look at in those numbers. Full article: https://www.texastribune.org/2020/02/14/bernie-sanders-leading-texas-ahead-super-tuesday-uttt-poll-says/

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A slight majority of all Texas voters — 52% — said they would not vote to reelect President Donald Trump in November. Republicans remain solidly in his corner: 90% said they would vote to reelect Trump, including 80% who said they “definitely” would do so. Democrats feel just as strongly: 93% said they would not vote for the president’s reelection, including 88% who would “definitely not” vote for him. Independent voters were against reelection, but less so: 38% said they would vote to reelect Trump, while 62% said they would vote against him.

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But when pitted against some of the top Democrats in hypothetical head-to-head contests, the president topped them all, if somewhat narrowly. Trump would beat Sanders by 2 percentage points, 47%-45%, within the poll’s margin of error. He’d beat Biden 47-43, Warren 47-44, Bloomberg 46-41, Buttigieg 47-42, and Klobuchar 46-41. Trump had 45% support against Yang’s 43%. The president, whose reelect number was under 50% in the survey, didn't get a majority of the vote in any of the matchups, even while getting more support than each Democrat.

"The Trump trial ballots confirm what we’ve seen, that Trump is winning, but he clearly is under-performing, given the party profile in the state," said Daron Shaw, a government professor at UT-Austin who co-directs the poll. "It is interesting when you put a flesh and blood Democrat up there, it drops that number, but here’s a Republican in a Republican state who’s not at 50%, which is a sign of weakness."

 

If we all hang together, Texas is going to be close.

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1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

M4A was always BERNIE’S branding strategy to acquire the presidency.

All the other candidates openly advocating for M4A were FAKES because they weren’t High Sparrow Bernard! The one true savior of healthcare! 

the high sparrow thing kills me

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5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

the high sparrow thing kills me

Yeah that's actually pretty funny

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