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9 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Syril whipped andors ass.  Sort of surprising 

Well he surprised him, and Cassian Andor is probably the least physically imposing human male Star Wars hero this side of OT Luke Skywalker.

Plus he was probably getting pegged in the dark while wearing a gimp suit every time he went home to Coruscant so he had a lot of aggression to work out.

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1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

he was probably getting pegged in the dark while wearing a gimp suit every time he went home to Coruscant

 

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On 6/19/2025 at 1:01 PM, kingkoopa6 said:

Rebels not bad.  
 

im in. Will take some time tho 

 

on 1.3 now 

Yeah, if you're enjoying it by this point, you're in for a real treat once it starts getting good.

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23 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

So Syril.  To me, he's kind of one of the more underrated aspects of this show because of who he represents.  For instance, ask yourself this question as I did and see what you come up with.  When, if ever, did Syril truly go wrong/evil?  I mean, yeah, he's a try-hard, and WE know that when Andor kills those two guys, it's because they were shaking him down and threatening him, but Syril doesn't know that.  He's just a law and order dude with a belief in something he likely doesn't know or fully understand the true nature of until it is way too late.  He disobeys his boss's direction in pursuing Cassian, so you could say that was wrong, but that was more procedurally wrong rather than a good vs evil type of wrong.  Then he goes about committing more procedural wrongs in an attempt to clear his name, which lands him in Dedra's crosshairs, but again, nothing with true knowing malicious intent.  I'm not sure he ever really goes wrong from a choosing evil standpoint (maybe some of his actions with regard to the Ghorman Front, but even then, he is trying to figure out if outside agitators are breaking what he perceives to be the law).  He is a great case study in how somebody with a stringent set of beliefs, who is being pushed by family to make something of himself and lacks the ability to discern the bigger picture can have those set of conditions used by evil to do their bidding while he cheers himself along almost all the way while doing said bidding.

One of the themes of the show is how the Imperials who show initiative, concern, excellence, a true desire to Make the Galaxy Great Again are the ones who get crushed under its heel as if they themselves were Rebels.

Syril, Dedra, Partagaz... crushed.  You even see competence from Syril's corporate boss way back earlier... also crushed. Krennic built the fucking Death Star ... how did that end for him?

The mediocre, the ones who don't care, are the ones who survive, guys like Lagret.

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That's a good take Rimbo.

I just binged it this past week. Agree with most of what's been written about Syril.  Really a great character and added a lot of depth to the show IMO.  The first three episodes were killing me, even if I got the point of what was going on.  While I really did enjoy the show, a few other notes/questions:

1) I don't get the scene with Perrin at the end - After her speech, Mon Mothma is a fugitive, public enemy #1.  Yet a year later, Perrin is just partying around Corusant at the end, banging the crime dude's wife?  They would have locked him up 5 seconds after that speech and probably exectured him shortly thereafter.  Am I missing something?  A shot of him in a jail cell makes more sense.

2) Dedra - It's so incredibly important that the Rebels have no information about the Death Star that in Rouge One they send out Vader to recover them from the Rebel command ship and as a last ditch effort they vaporize the Sacriff base and thousands of otherwise just normal Imperial personel, while Dedra's incompetance is what leaks the Death Star existance in the first place and all she gets is prison?  Given Krenik's propensity to pretty much kill anyone and everyone that doesn't perform adequately, and Tarkin's too, that seems highly unlikely.  Her before a firing squad at the end would have been more accurate.

3) Bix is a selfish cunt.  Assuming of course that baby is Cassian's, which it seems is implied, after going on several times about making choices and even scolding Cassian for not making his own choices, she denies him the right to make a choice about whether he wants to help raise his kid or keep fighting?  All because some Force healer thinks he has a destiny.  Screw her.  That was for Cassian to decide, not her.  And why go back to Mina-Rau?  She's illegal, no visa there, and while it HAD been 8 years since the Imperials came around to do an inventory when things went to shit, there's no guarantee they will wait another 8 years.  Seems she should have gone elsewhere.  But again, she's a selfish cunt so screw her.

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1 hour ago, Hellraiser97 said:

don't get the scene with Perrin at the end - After her speech, Mon Mothma is a fugitive, public enemy #1.  Yet a year later, Perrin is just partying around Corusant at the end, banging the crime dude's wife?  They would have locked him up 5 seconds after that speech and probably exectured him shortly thereafter.  Am I missing something?  A shot of him in a jail cell makes more sense

There was a deleted scene that explains it all. Basically Perrin always knew what Mon was up to, and covered for her to the ISB. Sculden owned a broadcast channel that, when ordered, refused to cut the feed to Mothma's speech to the senate, which is why the imperials were scrambling to cut power to the senate chamber. Perrin and Sculden's wife both lost their spouses to the rebellion, which better explains them being together later.


There are videos and interviews on yt and the net, from the episode writer, and Gilroy, talking about it. Some were linked a couple of pages back in this thread. 

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