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the one candidate even more senile than Trump is going to win the Dem nomination.  Wonder which of Joe and Trump will be the first to shit their diaper onstage during the presidential debates.

 

Trump and Joe are making Bernie and Liz look bad.

#NotAllSeptuagenarians

the one candidate even more senile than Trump is going to win the Dem nomination.  Wonder which of Joe and Trump will be the first to shit their diaper onstage during the presidential debates.
 

57 states!

 

Has anyone been following the situation with the Blackjewel Coal company? These miners are getting fucked in a really bad way. Try and watch it without experiencing schadenfreude, these people are hurting and probably know Trump's promises were empty.

Not sure why the Dem candidates are not all over this, I believe Bernie is the only candidate speaking out on the issue. I would think this would be in Warren's wheelhouse but so far Bernie is the only one talking about it.

 

 

Any candidate who is against single-payer because they think private insurance is a more efficient and universal way of providing healthcare is an idiot.

Any candidate who is against single-payer because they think there is a way to sneak universal healthcare past the insurance lobby is an idiot.

If you are not supporting Warren or Bernie as your #1, what the fuck are you even doing?

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Any candidate who is against single-payer because they think private insurance is a more efficient and universal way of providing healthcare is an idiot.

Any candidate who is against single-payer because they think there is a way to sneak universal healthcare past the insurance lobby is an idiot.

If you are not supporting Warren or Bernie as your #1, what the fuck are you even doing?

Does Medicare destroy health care for people who are 65 and over?

These ads are dumber than fuck.

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Any candidate who is against single-payer because they think private insurance is a more efficient and universal way of providing healthcare is an idiot.

Any candidate who is against single-payer because they think there is a way to sneak universal healthcare past the insurance lobby is an idiot.

If you are not supporting Warren or Bernie as your #1, what the fuck are you even doing?

Would you say, "either you're with us or against us?"

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Does Medicare destroy health care for people who are 65 and over?

These ads are dumber than fuck.

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Keep-Your-Government-Hands-Off-My-Medica

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28 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Would you say, "either you're with us or against us?"

In terms of the healthcare debate? Absolutely.

You either support payment-independent universal healthcare for 100% of Americans or you're wrong.

I am extremely happy to draw that line in the sand. Have fun crossing it and being a massive piece of shit to own the libs.

9 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

In terms of the healthcare debate? Absolutely.

You either support payment-independent universal healthcare for 100% of Americans or you're wrong.

I am extremely happy to draw that line in the sand. Have fun crossing it and being a massive piece of shit to own the libs.

This is an extremely shortsighted and uninformed opinion. What we need are market based solutions to healthcare. We need to innovate and synergize existing infrastructure to maximize optimal resolutions to value based treatment options. Only then can we truly have health care independence and freedom. Which in my book is what makes America so great.  

Warren won debate #2.  Lulz Delaney. 

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30 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

Warren won debate #2.  Lulz Delaney. 

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Delaney came at the queen.  He chose...poorly. 

The night 2 numbers are interesting.  I had Booker winning that one but to see Biden and Kamala behind Tulsi and Yang is yikes. 

DeBlasio coming in last was to be expected because he’s just a flamethrower.   Bennett turned out to be a joke.

I have shifted my position on joe biden in the days after the debate and mass shootings.

old position: anybody but joe

new position: fuck joe biden 

I instinctively reject all polls that have Biden at 30% or higher because I need to believe there is hope in the world.

Warren won debate #2.  Lulz Delaney. 
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Wow that’s pretty accurate with how things actually went. There’s hope for America.

Something infuriating about Biden is how the media treats him with kid gloves and no one is calling this bullshit out. For uncle Joe, only pre-recorded exclusive prime time interviews with Anderson Cooper and Lester Holt.

You will never see Joe Biden show up for a live TV interview or have a live town hall answering questions from everyday people.  

This motherfucker wants his nomination handed to him and the media is bending over backwards to give it to him.  

It is disgusting. 

12 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Something infuriating about Biden is how the media treats him with kid gloves and no one is calling this bullshit out. For uncle Joe, only pre-recorded exclusive prime time interviews with Anderson Cooper and Lester Holt.

You will never see Joe Biden show up for a live TV interview or have a live town hall answering questions from everyday people.  

This motherfucker wants his nomination handed to him and the media is bending over backwards to give it to him.  

It is disgusting. 

Yep, I'm gonna need a clothespin on my nose when I pull the lever for Joe 

13 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Something infuriating about Biden is how the media treats him with kid gloves and no one is calling this bullshit out. For uncle Joe, only pre-recorded exclusive prime time interviews with Anderson Cooper and Lester Holt.

You will never see Joe Biden show up for a live TV interview or have a live town hall answering questions from everyday people.  

This motherfucker wants his nomination handed to him and the media is bending over backwards to give it to him.  

It is disgusting. 

He’d just blurt out his SSN by accident. That’s why. 

14 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

I instinctively reject all polls that have Biden at 30% or higher because I need to believe there is hope in the world.

This is me. Fuck are we in denial? I need to see the people of this country tell me with their votes Joe Biden is the guy to put it all on the line with. Until then I don’t believe it. These polls are untrustworthy. They couldn’t see Donald Trump coming.

14 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Something infuriating about Biden is how the media treats him with kid gloves and no one is calling this bullshit out. For uncle Joe, only pre-recorded exclusive prime time interviews with Anderson Cooper and Lester Holt.

You will never see Joe Biden show up for a live TV interview or have a live town hall answering questions from everyday people.  

This motherfucker wants his nomination handed to him and the media is bending over backwards to give it to him.  

It is disgusting. 

Sounds familiar.

Biden-Trump debates are gonna be fucking epic.

 

I've seen Beto and Biden all over the media post-shootings. Are the others putting themselves out less or just not garnering much coverage? 

1 minute ago, Mojo Hand said:

I've seen Beto and Biden all over the media post-shootings. Are the others putting themselves out less or just not garnering much coverage? 

I've seen Harris, Beto, Biden (somewhat) and that's about it. 

3 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

I've seen Beto and Biden all over the media post-shootings. Are the others putting themselves out less or just not garnering much coverage? 

Warren on MSNBC and CNN Sunday night 

 

Guess it's just what I happened to come across. 

I've only seen Buttigieg and Beto. Apparently we all live in our own little media bubble. 

 

 

 

What about Marianne?

Do we need to think positive thoughts and #GoodVibesOnly to fix this? 

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

What about Marianne?

Do we need to think positive thoughts and #GoodVibesOnly to fix this? 

And ylang ylang oil.

11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

What about Marianne?

Do we need to think positive thoughts and #GoodVibesOnly to fix this? 

Love conquers all.

 

I saw Booker on somewhere. Similar message to what you've seen from the others minus the intense language of Beto.

New Q poll shows Warren continuing her steady rise as Harris falls back to the pack:

 

Hey DNC:

ARE WE EVER GOING TO GET TO SEE WARREN AND BIDEN ON THE SAME FUCKING STAGE?

Beto is going to get a bump, probably won’t show up for another week or two but the question is, at whose expense? 

Some tidbits in this poll:

18% of blacks don’t know

Warren now at 8% with blacks, highest I’ve seen

Bernie with 16% of blacks

No other candidate gets over 2% with blacks except Biden at 47%

The Whites:

Biden with 30% of whites in a near statistical tie with Warren at 27%

Bernie with 10% among whites.

No other candidate is polling above “Not sure” among whites at 8%  Kamala at 8%, Pete at 7%

 

Age demographics:

Uncle Joe dominating the Boomers with around 40% among voters over 50

The boomers hate Bernie.

Warren is the most consistently appealing candidate among all age groups and it’s not close.  18% with olds and 25% with 18-35 demo

Bernie at 24% among 18-35 but only 5% with 65 and over.

Warren is crushing the “ideas”’polling at 32% with Biden, don’t know, and Bernie at 17%, 17%, 16% respectively.

Edited by Hugo Stiglitz

Also, based on this poll, the Boomers kinda suck. 

Among all demographics, the 65+ crowd is the most concerned about the perceived “electability” question against Trump over shared values. 

I guess they really just want to see Trump lose before they die.  

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9 hours ago, Dropout said:

This is me. Fuck are we in denial?

Yes, and I'm happy to be there.

If Joe wins the presidency I'm just going to laugh quietly to myself all day and shout, "IT SURE IS NICE THAT NEITHER DONALD TRUMP NOR JOE BIDEN ARE PRESIDENT!" every 10 minutes and my children will have me committed and I will eat chocolate pudding and be content in my quiet room with nurses looking in through the window on the door.

Joe Biden is like the Trevor Hoffman of the campaign. Needs to be brought in to close out Donny and bring home the W. 

No need to roll the dice with some polarizing candidate like Warren or Sanders. 

2 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Joe Biden is like the Trevor Hoffman of the campaign. Needs to be brought in to close out Donny and bring home the W. 

No need to roll the dice with some polarizing candidate like Warren or Sanders. 

He would put the democrats at more risk by being a senile dumbass. #joe30330

3 minutes ago, Larry T. Spider said:

He would put the democrats at more risk by being a senile dumbass. #joe30330

Man his stuttering and foolishness will endear himself to the very states that will decide this election - WI, MI, and PA. "Look, he talks just like us!"

These are simple folks. Sons of the soil, if you will. They just want to hear about jobs and want to feel like they're not being forgotten. 

If the democrats nominate Joe Biden, I will vote for him and strongly consider immigrating overseas anyway.   No way that doofus is capable of handling the catastrophe Trump will be leaving behind and I know this because he’s already acting like he can retire once he wins the election.   

Biden’s 2020 campaign so far looks worse than 2016 Hillary and that’s saying a lot.  No imagination, nonexistent digital strategy, and way too much entitled out of touch messaging.

On 8/5/2019 at 8:52 PM, Larry T. Spider said:

I have shifted my position on joe biden in the days after the debate and mass shootings.

old position: anybody but joe

new position: fuck joe biden 

You know, I was anybody-but-Joe.  For a number of reasons.  He's a human gaffe machine, he's pretty hands-y with women, he's fucking old (and I'm ready for some new voices in both parties).  Really, there's almost nothing about him that I find especially insightful or inspiring. 

But for at least the short term, presidential elections are going to swing largely on Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, etc.  And those working white people fucking love him.   

So if it turns out to be Biden vs Trump in 15 months.... at least there's that.

If the democrats nominate Joe Biden, I will vote for him and strongly consider immigrating overseas anyway.   No way that doofus is capable of handling the catastrophe Trump will be leaving behind and I know this because he’s already acting like he can retire once he wins the election.   
Biden’s 2020 campaign so far looks worse than 2016 Hillary and that’s saying a lot.  No imagination, nonexistent digital strategy, and way too much entitled out of touch messaging.
Biden winning and getting Trump the hell out then playing golf every day while his advisors and cabinet (hopefully made up of a bunch of the primary candidates) do the work is pretty close to a best case scenario, presuming he wins the primary.
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