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2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Well if you want to take the presumptuous and doubling down on name-calling as a position, have some rancor.

1. Dismissing what someone says as stupid, moronic, or idiotic based on a premise you don't really articulate says more about your mind than anyone to whom you direct your vacant claims.

2. You are so unjustifiably sure of yourself that you claim I am pretending about my opinion. I actually name my statements as opinions. You proclaim absolute truth supported by disdain for any who disagree. Here, eat dick, you fucking moron if you don't agree with me. Hey, I just crushed whatever you think your argument is. Neato! I guess that really is persuasive.

3. The main point I and others are making is not to take Arch down a dark road and bury him alive. Here's the line of reasoning. I know I'm wasting my time because you will destroy it by writing that I'm not serious and that my position is really really stupid. I'll likely weep.

a. Arch Manning is objectively struggling to find open receivers and throw accurately to those he does find. Many promising completions have been limited by his ball placement retarding the speed of the receiver. 

b. We have lost twice to competitive teams (even though it's possible Florida won't be very competitive with anyone else). Many elements caused those losses. Pay attention now, other players poor play does not excuse the problems Manning has had as described in a. above.

c. Amid the futile plays at the end of the game in hopes of scoring against Florida, Caldwell has to go in and makes the only competent QB play of that possession.

d. It's actually not uncommon to play a player who has shown, in game, that his experience may pay off nicely by succeeding at some of the easy reads and throws that dog the starter.

e. You don't fucking know how good Caldwell is. Nobody is saying he's VY. You keep harping on his time at Troy. The same coach that chose Manning chose this guy as a viable back up. Should I put more stock in Sark's evaluation or yours? (I know. I know. I'm just pretending that's a reasonable statement. Ya got me.)

f. You defend your position like that skinny blond guy begged us to leave Britney alone. The difference is that he was joking. Enough with, oh he'll die behind that line, he tries so hard, he really isn't playing poorly, nobody in the world should be put in. Translation: stick to losing if it means I can hold my jackass position that not even God in heaven should bench him for a series.

g. Yes, only a series or more if Caldwell moves the ball. That's all we're saying. Who is actually being unreasonable here?

@Thatguy's analysis and explanation are persuasive. Your claim about the hopelessness of the one play perfectly illustrates your odd desperation. Deny your eyes all you want but maybe keep it to yourself. What's going on here is pretty much self-immolation. We're growing sad for you.

 

I know for some this is tldr. For you, it's likely too long can't understand it. Now fuck yourself along and toss another spurt at the Arch altar.

The play is the play Roma. Its not opinion. This isnt politics. He either saw it or he didnt. That said I have never wanted Arch benched. The argument was simply about what he shouldve done. Nothing more. Quit trying to make me Derka who disliked Quinn from season one on. I hope Arch kicks ass tomorrow. Im just pointing out what Im seeing. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

Well if you want to take the presumptuous and doubling down on name-calling as a position, have some rancor.

1. Dismissing what someone says as stupid, moronic, or idiotic based on a premise you don't really articulate says more about your mind than anyone to whom you direct your vacant claims.

2. You are so unjustifiably sure of yourself that you claim I am pretending about my opinion. I actually name my statements as opinions. You proclaim absolute truth supported by disdain for any who disagree. Here, eat dick, you fucking moron if you don't agree with me. Hey, I just crushed whatever you think your argument is. Neato! I guess that really is persuasive.

3. The main point I and others are making is not to take Arch down a dark road and bury him alive. Here's the line of reasoning. I know I'm wasting my time because you will destroy it by writing that I'm not serious and that my position is really really stupid. I'll likely weep.

a. Arch Manning is objectively struggling to find open receivers and throw accurately to those he does find. Many promising completions have been limited by his ball placement retarding the speed of the receiver. 

b. We have lost twice to competitive teams (even though it's possible Florida won't be very competitive with anyone else). Many elements caused those losses. Pay attention now, other players poor play does not excuse the problems Manning has had as described in a. above.

c. Amid the futile plays at the end of the game in hopes of scoring against Florida, Caldwell has to go in and makes the only competent QB play of that possession.

d. It's actually not uncommon to play a player who has shown, in game, that his experience may pay off nicely by succeeding at some of the easy reads and throws that dog the starter.

e. You don't fucking know how good Caldwell is. Nobody is saying he's VY. You keep harping on his time at Troy. The same coach that chose Manning chose this guy as a viable back up. Should I put more stock in Sark's evaluation or yours? (I know. I know. I'm just pretending that's a reasonable statement. Ya got me.)

f. You defend your position like that skinny blond guy begged us to leave Britney alone. The difference is that he was joking. Enough with, oh he'll die behind that line, he tries so hard, he really isn't playing poorly, nobody in the world should be put in. Translation: stick to losing if it means I can hold my jackass position that not even God in heaven should bench him for a series.

g. Yes, only a series or more if Caldwell moves the ball. That's all we're saying. Who is actually being unreasonable here?

@Thatguy's analysis and explanation are persuasive. Your claim about the hopelessness of the one play perfectly illustrates your odd desperation. Deny your eyes all you want but maybe keep it to yourself. What's going on here is pretty much self-immolation. We're growing sad for you.

 

I know for some this is tldr. For you, it's likely too long can't understand it. Now fuck yourself along and toss another spurt at the Arch altar.

Oops. I thought that was for me and didnt see who you quoted . My bad. 

Posted
2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Joey Aguilar sucks because he played for 5-6 App St last year 

Joey Aguilar has thrown for 6700 yards and 50 touchdowns in his college career you dunce 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Yep. And what does that tell you? He isnt processing what he is seeing. 

I don’t disagree with that on the presnap side. I just think if he doesn’t make that presnap read, he’s never getting that throw. And he currently isn’t going to change his presnap 1st choice as he doesn’t get it yet.

Posted
8 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

If the land thieves weren't so regarded I'd expect chantS of NEP-O BA-BY tomorrow. 

Will Drake Stoops be there to lead the nepo baby chants? 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:


Have you ever seen an offensive minded coach who didn’t wanna stack the skill positions and score a ton of points to the detriment of the defense and be aggressive a lot? Seems like defensive minded coaches are the opposite. Protect the defense with a slower offense and conservative play.

what's real weird is sark seems to recruit dline better than oline lol

Posted
4 hours ago, Thatguy said:

The play is the play Roma. Its not opinion. This isnt politics. He either saw it or he didnt. That said I have never wanted Arch benched. The argument was simply about what he shouldve done. Nothing more. Quit trying to make me Derka who disliked Quinn from season one on. I hope Arch kicks ass tomorrow. Im just pointing out what Im seeing. 

Am I doing that or do you mean the person I was responding to? I don't see you (or myself) as Arch haters. I'd be delighted to see Arch destroy OU.

Now that I think about, you're responding to me saying "we." Sorry if I errantly included you in something. I do appreciate the lessons.

4 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Oops. I thought that was for me and didnt see who you quoted . My bad. 

All is well.

Posted
13 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s a big assumption that he doesn’t get YAC or that the defender makes or whiffs the tackle retard autist. And the bigger point is the catch is a better result than a sack 

I don’t think he catches the ball. I think people look at these and make the assumption that the exact reaction will occur. That DB will be all over the WR, if Arch is looking at the WR and even makes a hint of throwing it to him.  He is 5 off with hips parallel to the LOS and coming down and Arch isn’t even looking that direction. He is in great position.  The QB has to go through the motion of throwing and the ball has to travel 20 yards. He isn’t catching the ball. I was merely saying even if he did, he will be short

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Posted
12 hours ago, Thatguy said:

The play is the play Roma. Its not opinion. This isnt politics. He either saw it or he didnt. That said I have never wanted Arch benched. The argument was simply about what he shouldve done. Nothing more. Quit trying to make me Derka who disliked Quinn from season one on. I hope Arch kicks ass tomorrow. Im just pointing out what Im seeing. 

You cut up a 1 route clip and said Arch picked the wrong WR like he had a choice. Derka would not go that far. 

Posted
49 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I don’t think he catches the ball. I think people look at these and make the assumption that the exact reaction will occur. That DB will be all over the WR, if Arch is looking at the WR and even makes a hint of throwing it to him.  He is 5 off with hips parallel to the LOS and coming down and Arch isn’t even looking that direction. He is in great position.  The QB has to go through the motion of throwing and the ball has to travel 20 yards. He isn’t catching the ball. I was merely saying even if he did, he will be short

You don’t realize that arch should process the other side the field first then come back. There is a look off. This is basic shit that should have been identified pre snap. Be should know that combo is there 

Posted (edited)
On 10/7/2025 at 10:39 AM, Born Burnt said:

It's entirely possible that someone might have just emailed that video to CDC

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I have no idea why this post showed up in this thread. Surly isn’t working well with the new IOS  

 

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Posted
12 hours ago, dcar00 said:

wait, no fucking way, Peyton Manning is our coach and Cooper is on the team?

More like Cooper is our HC, and little bro Heid is our starting center. 

Posted

I've undertaken a comprehensive survey of every hall of fame NFL quarterback.  The results are shocking.  What I learned is there is actually a talent delta for each of these players between their high-school years, first year starting in college, and peak NFL output.  This leads one to believe that maybe, just maybe, QBs develop over time and get better with more experience.

I'm still sitting here trying to process this stunning revelation. 

Posted
43 minutes ago, ermahgerdhorn said:

I've undertaken a comprehensive survey of every hall of fame NFL quarterback.  The results are shocking.  What I learned is there is actually a talent delta for each of these players between their high-school years, first year starting in college, and peak NFL output.  This leads one to believe that maybe, just maybe, QBs develop over time and get better with more experience.

I'm still sitting here trying to process this stunning revelation. 

Take away his two Super Bowl wins and Eli himself was a pretty average qb

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