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3 hours ago, txexlonghorn23 said:

I am starting to be a believer, he has a undisclosed shoulder injury.

A couple of people I was watching the game with wondered if he was injured and the side arming of the ball was something he was doing to play through it.

 

I watched a few passes from the MS-ST game last year and his motion looked different to me.

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4 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

We spent two years listening to same people saying Ewers has an injury that’s why he can’t throw downfield and here we are again in game one for Arch….  He was clearly overthinking most throws like a golfer with the yips to me. A shoulder injury that’s so bad you throw a 8 yard pass at the receivers feet like a fastball or over their head?  

Maybe it's a "Rookie of the Year" situation where the injury made him throw harder.

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8 hours ago, SarkAfterDark said:

No I understood it perfectly, however you implied in your previous post the issue is Sark/play call when that wasn’t the issue as you just stated in your follow up post. Arch made the wrong read, he had the underneath route wide open. We have ran that play successfully multiple times over the past few years. One of the two routes are always open, the QB has to make the right read. And the read can’t just be made pre snap. Look deep, if the corner gets depth take the underneath. 

If you understood it perfectly then why are you still talking about it? That particular route combo is timed so the deep post can clear out space for a route across the field underneath. A QB surveying the field is going to use the deep defenders to determine what to do. If opposing defenses are so locked in that they are rolling to the perfect defense for it post snap then it is on the play designer to have a counter for that. We've been running that combo for 3 years and I have yet to see something designed off that action that would tell me we are self=scouting well enough. Almost every team we play defends us with some variation of roughly the same defense. In this case Ohio State ran their signature inverted Tampa 2. A defense we saw last year but we had nothing different for it in the passing game. So yes, while a QB should know that he is going to get what is basically Cover 3 from OSU, the coach should stop letting his QB get fooled by the same defensive schemes over and over. 

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Ok I watched the all passes video and the film guy video. Pretty brutal.

 

I addition to all the shortcomings we’ve covered thoroughly, it did also seem to me that he at least did a good job of not making poor decisions against a really good pass defense he was playing. Looked to me like the way he played could have ended up with multiple panicked throws that shouldn’t have been made at all for ints. And that didn’t really happen.

 

No mistake about it, dude has to get better. But that’s at least one positive I saw. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Yea I mean most of his misses were the wide open correct decision

Well, yea. That’s my point.

 

Small consolation I know. 

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Agree. I think my takeaway is hitting an open receiver should be easier to fix than zero clue what to do with the ball.

 

Pretty surprised to have to type that sentence but here we are I guess. Bring on week two and let’s see what we get. 

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11 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Agree. I think my takeaway is hitting an open receiver should be easier to fix than zero clue what to do with the ball.

 

Pretty surprised to have to type that sentence but here we are I guess. Bring on week two and let’s see what we get. 

It makes it worse and better at the same time.  

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Arch is bad. His whole thing has been he has great mechanics and a plus arm. How has he regressed so much in one off season? Go back and watch the game and you will see how difficult it looks for him to throw the ball 10 yards. He had to put everything he's got into every throw. His mechanics were awful and he didn't have the arm to make up for it. I am completely off the arch bandwagon and would be up for benching him asap. Either he has an injury or he fucked around all offseason, because he looked worse than Hudson Card. I'm at such a loss. He looks absolutely terrible and everyone acting like there was anything redeemable about a single throw he made is just fooling themselves. Arch is an awful quarterback 

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4 minutes ago, Cap Hooked said:

Arch is bad. His whole thing has been he has great mechanics and a plus arm. How has he regressed so much in one off season? Go back and watch the game and you will see how difficult it looks for him to throw the ball 10 yards. He had to put everything he's got into every throw. His mechanics were awful and he didn't have the arm to make up for it. I am completely off the arch bandwagon and would be up for benching him asap. Either he has an injury or he fucked around all offseason, because he looked worse than Hudson Card. I'm at such a loss. He looks absolutely terrible and everyone acting like there was anything redeemable about a single throw he made is just fooling themselves. Arch is an awful quarterback 

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9 minutes ago, Cap Hooked said:

Arch is bad. His whole thing has been he has great mechanics and a plus arm. How has he regressed so much in one off season? Go back and watch the game and you will see how difficult it looks for him to throw the ball 10 yards. He had to put everything he's got into every throw. His mechanics were awful and he didn't have the arm to make up for it. I am completely off the arch bandwagon and would be up for benching him asap. Either he has an injury or he fucked around all offseason, because he looked worse than Hudson Card. I'm at such a loss. He looks absolutely terrible and everyone acting like there was anything redeemable about a single throw he made is just fooling themselves. Arch is an awful quarterback 

That throw to Endries was incredible. Guess you were in the bathroom when that happened?!

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6 minutes ago, Alien Octopus said:

That throw to Endries was incredible. Guess you were in the bathroom when that happened?!

Competent starters in highschool make that throw. Arch was awful. Go watch former nfl and cfb players breakdown the tape of the game. He doesnt look like he belongs in Div 1 football. I think he looked great last year and his mechanics were just fine, but something is different now. It's some of the worst game tape of a cfb qb I have seen in a decade

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28 minutes ago, Cap Hooked said:

Competent starters in highschool make that throw. Arch was awful. Go watch former nfl and cfb players breakdown the tape of the game. He doesnt look like he belongs in Div 1 football. I think he looked great last year and his mechanics were just fine, but something is different now. It's some of the worst game tape of a cfb qb I have seen in a decade

^clearly you skipped out on watching Jerrod Heard, Tyrone Swoopes, and Hudson Card play QB for us then.

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56 minutes ago, Cap Hooked said:

https://youtu.be/JNEyjgGyC4Y?si=pmF2NG48YVb61Rtk

Here is a former NFL quarterback breaking down Arch's game. Just awful

I stopped watching first minute when he said his arm doesn’t have the wow factor. The guy has a cannon for an arm, it’s a wow arm. That guy is a dumb shit. Doesn’t take away from the fact that arch shit the bed and doesn’t have a touch pass in his repertoire. Even his excellent completions suuucked if graded.

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Just now, troph said:

I stopped watching first minute when he said his arm doesn’t have the wow factor. The guy has a cannon for an arm, it’s a wow arm. That guy is a dumb shit.

He didn't show it against Ohio st. Skipped easy passes and it looked difficult for him to even throw the ball 10 yards. But yeah I'm sure you know more than nfl quarterbacks

Posted
12 minutes ago, ATXhorn17 said:

^clearly you skipped out on watching Jerrod Heard, Tyrone Swoopes, and Hudson Card play QB for us then.

Could have used Tyrone Swoopes on that QB sneak. 

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1 minute ago, Cap Hooked said:

He didn't show it against Ohio st. Skipped easy passes and it looked difficult for him to even throw the ball 10 yards. But yeah I'm sure you know more than nfl quarterbacks

He did show it, he threw to hard all the time. His one deep ball was a missile. His arm strength is off the charts. He played like dog shit. His accuracy and mechanics were awful. He has tape where he throws on a dime and has good mechanics. He will get better. tOSU mind fucked him all day long. Honestly we shouldn’t have been so surprised. 

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1 minute ago, F250 said:

Could have used Tyrone Swoopes on that QB sneak. 

Swoopes there it is

1 minute ago, troph said:

He did show it, he threw to hard all the time. His one deep ball was a missile. His arm strength is off the charts. He played like dog shit. He will get better. 

Most stating caliber QBs can throw piss rockets. It’s nothing unique. 

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5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Swoopes there it is

Most stating caliber QBs can throw piss rockets. It’s nothing unique. 

Agreed but the guy said arch had nothing wow about him in the first minute. That dude is click bait trash. It takes 1 second to see arch’s wow factor. Lots of question marks but that dude was wrong out of the gate so I don’t think his analysis is worth the wasted bandwidth to watch. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, troph said:

Agreed but the guy said arch had nothing wow about him in the first minute. That dude is click bait trash. It takes 1 second to see arch’s wow factor. Lots of question marks but that dude was wrong out of the gate so I don’t think his analysis is worth the wasted bandwidth to watch. 

Based on the game vs Ohio state he literally didn’t. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, ATXhorn17 said:

The troll is citing a former NFL practice squad QB who is now a CFB 26 video game influencer lol. 

A troll? That was just one video I picked out of a dozen you can watch breaking down Arch's film you dunce. Btw he was an NFL qb who played under Sark so it's not like he doesn't have an understanding of what's supposed to be going on. So your whole thing is you just try and discredit anyone that has any criticism over the game our qb just played? 

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30 minutes ago, Cap Hooked said:

A troll? That was just one video I picked out of a dozen you can watch breaking down Arch's film you dunce. Btw he was an NFL qb who played under Sark so it's not like he doesn't have an understanding of what's supposed to be going on. So your whole thing is you just try and discredit anyone that has any criticism over the game our qb just played? 

Annnnd there are a dozen videos from people like Chase Daniel (played in the NFL for a decade+) who chalk it up to a bad game and say Arch will be fine… Quarterbacks play poorly sometimes. It happens. 

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