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What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say. Just waltzing into the thread on a new sock and still exhibiting a 6 year old's understanding of Middle East geopolitics.

Why should we care about Qatar, guys? They're only a major strategic and economic ally, and a major staging ground for all of our military operations in that region of the world. They're only host to the biggest fucking US military base in the Middle East that also just so happens to be the forward HQ of US CENTCOM, and host to thousands of our troops.

Why tho?

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5 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

What a mind-blowingly stupid thing to say. Just waltzing into the thread on a new sock and still exhibiting a 6 year old's understanding of Middle East geopolitics.

Why should we care about Qatar, guys? They're only a major strategic and economic ally, and a major staging ground for all of our military operations in that region of the world. They're only host to the biggest fucking US military base in the Middle East that also just so happens to be the forward HQ of US CENTCOM, and host to thousands of our troops.

Why tho?

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We did not do it. Israel did. Maybe they had our tacit approval but doubtful. Qatar doesn’t have much right to be pissed. And if they are, we have full deniability. Fuck em

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3 hours ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

We did not do it. Israel did. Maybe they had our tacit approval but doubtful. Qatar doesn’t have much right to be pissed. And if they are, we have full deniability. Fuck em

They did it with our weapons and aircraft.  You understand that this kind of shit is how we lose influence and lose major military bases that we need over there.

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19 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

They did it with our weapons and aircraft.  You understand that this kind of shit is how we lose influence and lose major military bases that we need over there.

What they do with our weapons and aircraft is their business. We can’t put governors on how they feel they need to function. We can cease providing them weaponry if we dislike their usage, and I know that is where this conversation is headed. 

We did not do this, Qatar knows it, and we’re not losing military presence in Qatar as a result. 

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4 hours ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

I’m not sure why Qatar has a right to be pissed, or why we as Americans or general geopolitical observers should care if they are pissed. 

You can't be serious.

3 hours ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

We did not do it. Israel did. Maybe they had our tacit approval but doubtful. Qatar doesn’t have much right to be pissed. And if they are, we have full deniability. Fuck em

That is not correct.

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20 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

What they do with our weapons and aircraft is their business. We can’t put governors on how they feel they need to function.

We do for Ukraine.

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27 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

Okay, tell me Qatar has a right to be pissed, and why we should be concerned. 

Do you think we had full knowledge?

Yes I think we had knowledge. I am inferring that from these provable facts:

  • This summer we defended against Iran's bombing in Qatar. We have the defense technology to shoot down.
  • Last week we did not defend against Israel's bombing in Qatar. We (still, 4 months later) have the defense technology to shoot down.

It logically follows that we, in some form or fashion whether explicitly or tacitly, a) had knowledge and b) allowed for it to happen.

If Qatar wasn't pissed, that is what would be weird.

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2 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Yes I think we had knowledge. I am inferring that from these provable facts:

  • This summer we defended against Iran's bombing in Qatar. We have the defense technology to shoot down.
  • Last week we did not defend against Israel's bombing in Qatar. We (still, 4 months later) have the defense technology to shoot down.

It logically follows that we, in some form or fashion whether explicitly or tacitly, a) had knowledge and b) allowed for it to happen.

If Qatar wasn't pissed, that is what would be weird.

I don’t know if we did or didn’t. I probably should not have said it’s doubtful. I do know we asked Qatar to expel Hamas leaders over a year ago because of their refusal to release 10/7 hostages. I don’t know the status of negotiations, but the post-mortem mood of Qatar is inconsequential. 

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7 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

I don’t know if we did or didn’t. I probably should not have said it’s doubtful. I do know we asked Qatar to expel Hamas leaders over a year ago because of their refusal to release 10/7 hostages. I don’t know the status of negotiations, but the post-mortem mood of Qatar is inconsequential. 

Qatar is one of our best allies in the region and we have a great relationship and a rather substantial military base and presence in the region thanks to Qatar. Their continued friendliness is an asset and to brazenly burn relationship equity is foolish.

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2 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Qatar is one of our best allies in the region and we have a great relationship and a rather substantial military base and presence in the region thanks to Qatar. Their continued friendliness is an asset and to brazenly burn relationship equity is foolish.

You're arguing with a brick wall. It'll be nothing but "Muslim country bad" until he blows up with another racist rant. Don't engage Rex.

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1 minute ago, Vegas64 said:

Qatar is one of our best allies in the region and we have a great relationship and a rather substantial military base and presence in the region thanks to Qatar. Their continued friendliness is an asset and to brazenly burn relationship equity is foolish.

I agree their friendship is an asset. I disagree we did anything, brazenly or otherwise. If we asked for Hamas to be removed from the area recently, their harboring of terrorists outweighs their usefulness. 

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6 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

I agree their friendship is an asset. I disagree we did anything, brazenly or otherwise. If we asked for Hamas to be removed from the area recently, their harboring of terrorists outweighs their usefulness. 

Israel was brazen and we cosigned the document. How you can't see that means you aren't following or you are being dishonest.

Now, to whether in the end it will TRULY matter-- hard to say. The emergency meeting of the region just wrapped, I expect we would have been behind the scenes kissing rings and rears and apologizing profusely for the last 72 hours, so maybe we can just take the slap on the wrist, lost a couple aura points to Qatar and KSA, and rebuild it later, idk.

But I don't think it happens again (I don't think we let it happen again, that is to say) and I think Trump gets to keep the Qatari AF1 and we all collectively move on, because as the bonesaw should have told us out back, geopolitics in the Middle East calls for a lot more broken eggs than the usual omeletes.

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13 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Israel was brazen and we cosigned the document. How you can't see that means you aren't following or you are being dishonest.

Now, to whether in the end it will TRULY matter-- hard to say. The emergency meeting of the region just wrapped, I expect we would have been behind the scenes kissing rings and rears and apologizing profusely for the last 72 hours, so maybe we can just take the slap on the wrist, lost a couple aura points to Qatar and KSA, and rebuild it later, idk.

But I don't think it happens again (I don't think we let it happen again, that is to say) and I think Trump gets to keep the Qatari AF1 and we all collectively move on, because as the bonesaw should have told us out back, geopolitics in the Middle East calls for a lot more broken eggs than the usual omeletes.

I don’t know we co-signed. Nobody knows. And I am not being dishonest. This is a non-issue and we’re not kissing rings and rears.

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