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1 minute ago, Get ln My Van said:

Dwight Powell has been robbing the Mavs of an NBA check for a decade. Dude is a complete liability on both ends of the court.

Dwights been awesome this game. Those offensive rebounds we're giving up and lobs are dinwiddie's and Christie's fault.

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3 minutes ago, Get ln My Van said:

Dwight Powell has been robbing the Mavs of an NBA check for a decade. Dude is a complete liability on both ends of the court.

Dwight! It's time to go in the game!

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I still hate this all so much and lately I’ve had morons here in LA telling me how they couldn’t believe how upset Maav fans were about the trade. Luka is pretty good but not what we made him out to be, I really wanted to punch someone that night

 

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41 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Interestingly AD has played in more games over the last three seasons or something than Luka. 

That game was lost when* Exum got destroyed. He was great tonight in a limited role. Irving was awesome. PJ was awful. We just couldn’t shoot worth a shit all night except during that little flurry. I’ve never seen a team miss so many layups. 

*also the game was lost when we traded fucking Luka. 

sure the 76 games last year was a career high.  Luka averages a pretty consistent 66 or so games a year until this year. until last year Davis was averaging about 50 a year with the Lakers.  his nickname is Street Clothes for a reason.  that said, Luka probably won't ever play 75 games in a year.

agree Exum could have made a difference but he could have gone cold like the rest of them too.  Klay showed up.  unfortunately it seems like it happens only once in 4 or 5 games.

AD certainly will make a big difference in the lineup if he can stay healthy.

It was clear after Luka started hot that it became double team Luka so he doesn't embarrass Nico.  Kyrie and Klay tried to overcome but the obvious goal was to not let Luka go for 40+ so he hurt them in other ways. Reaves and LeBron won the game though.

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4 hours ago, dcar00 said:

 

It was clear after Luka started hot that it became double team Luka so he doesn't embarrass Nico.  Kyrie and Klay tried to overcome but the obvious goal was to not let Luka go for 40+ so he hurt them in other ways. Reaves and LeBron won the game though.

Yea even Candace Parker said that. 

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I feel for Kyrie more than anyone on this team. For as much shit as he has taken he has been better than advertised and a joy to watch. 

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I do know that if Kyrie implodes this team is done, with or without AD.
That's pretty much what happened in the Finals. While Luka could have been better, Kyrie wasn't good. All the supporting cast that did so well leading up to the Finals just disappeared.
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3 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

We would’ve beaten them with just one of our (non-Dwight) big men available or with slightly better shooting. With AD, I don’t think it’s a close one. 

Watching Luka made me miss him, but I was firmly pulling for the Mavs. I will never not do that. Only apathy can set in like with the Cowboys. Watching Luka’s antics made me not miss him. 

I'm always pulling for the Mavs and I will always hate the Lakers. I can want Nico to get fired though.  At the end of the day.  A very very small part of this is Luka's fault. He could have been more rigorous in his training, worked on his D more but the main issue is the front office and has been since Cuban was around too.  Hopefully Davis can be healthy, Kyrie can remain stable, Klay is more consistent(we need him to step up).

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4 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Luka is a lot more culpable than we know. And Nico is a punching bag. 

If they had more than the worthless nuggets they've been feeding the media then they would use it to save face. The stuff they're trying now is laughable.

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9 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

No they wouldn’t. It is in fact a terrible PR job, but I’m not sure what they can say. They can’t trash Luka to the media. That serves zero purpose for a multitude of reasons. If speaking just opens you up for more scrutiny, keep your mouth shut. 

The return for the trade was abysmally low.  Like worse than anything Jerry has ever done.  That’s the issue as we all know. Nothing Nico says will have any good impact. 

I'm honestly not sure what you're dumbest about. I'd argue with you but you do it out of every hole.

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20 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

The return for the trade was abysmally low.  Like worse than anything Jerry has ever done.  That’s the issue as we all know.

This is what is unforgivable. This was not a one piece from a championship move like the Rangers have tried and failed on more than one occasion. If you trade away your future you need to add solid pieces to win now and picks to get you over the top in the near term. This trade did neither

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

That’s what makes the return for the trade all the more mystifying

And makes it look like a tank job dictated from higher ups

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2 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yeah I get that. I’m just saying, I thought he was masterful at remaking the roster and getting Luka a lot of help. That’s what makes the return for the trade all the more mystifying. 

This is exactly right. Up until that point, the assets in/out was very much in favor of the Mavs, even with Brunson leaving. He built the roster to win a championship with a healthy Doncic. And then to trade him for maybe half what he’s worth?

Look, I don’t normally do conspiracy theories. I realize the Mavs now have the best (if healthy) front court in the league by far with Gafford/Lively, PJ and Davis, and Max Christie is developing into a legit allstar level player. But considering the impact on the future, and I mean two years out, not 5-10, and the current market, the Mavs should have gotten at least two more first round picks, AND Knecht AND probably Reaves on top of it.  
There are a lot of reasons for Nico and the Adelsons to do the deal as they did it. None of them have to do with the long term viability of the team as a championship contender in the city of Dallas.

Of course the other possibility is that  Nico really doesn’t believe that Luka will ever be that guy, and was willing to lose the trade to get rid of him. 

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2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

This is exactly right. Up until that point, the assets in/out was very much in favor of the Mavs, even with Brunson leaving. He built the roster to win a championship with a healthy Doncic. And then to trade him for maybe half what he’s worth?

Look, I don’t normally do conspiracy theories. I realize the Mavs now have the best (if healthy) front court in the league by far with Gafford/Lively, PJ and Davis, and Max Christie is developing into a legit allstar level player. But considering the impact on the future, and I mean two years out, not 5-10, and the current market, the Mavs should have gotten at least two more first round picks, AND Knecht AND probably Reaves on top of it.  
There are a lot of reasons for Nico and the Adelsons to do the deal as they did it. None of them have to do with the long term viability of the team as a championship contender in the city of Dallas.

Of course the other possibility is that  Nico really doesn’t believe that Luka will ever be that guy, and was willing to lose the trade to get rid of him. 

Agree.  People may not like to hear it but when/if AD is healthy, Dallas might have the best roster in the West or at least the most threatening to the Thunder.  (Yes, that's a big "if."  It's like saying "if" I was married to Scarlett Johansson then my wife would be hotter than yours.)  

Just awful long term, though, and to your point, "long term" means 2-3 years.

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3 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

So your contention is if they had real beef with Luka, they’d be smart to actually release that information, angering Luka and hurting their attractiveness to future players?  That’s a ridiculous strategy. 

I mean, the damage is done. What big name would even think about signing here without a no-trade clause? Going "easy" on Luka ain't helping shit. 

On the flip side, if a Bill Duffy client ever signs here again we'll know right away that this was a hit job by the league. 

 

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Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

So you think they ought to be more classless and tone deaf, and maybe hold a presser where Nico painstakingly details just how fat, lazy, and internally toxic Luka was?  Don’t take this the wrong way, but are you retarded?

Even more classless and tone deaf, you mean? The ongoing negative whisper campaign isn’t any better. 
In some ways the negative leaked about Luka are an argument that this wasn’t a hit job by the league, and Nico/Dumont really are that dumb.

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On 2/26/2025 at 10:09 AM, Rex Kramer said:

We would’ve beaten them with just one of our (non-Dwight) big men available or with slightly better shooting. With AD, I don’t think it’s a close one. 

Watching Luka made me miss him, but I was firmly pulling for the Mavs. I will never not do that. Only apathy can set in like with the Cowboys. Watching Luka’s antics made me not miss him. 

Man I'm the opposite, as much as I hate Jerry Jones and the dumbfucks he hires to coach, I can't get rid of my attachment. The trade here might kill my give a fuck for the Mavs. Maybe it's because the Cowboys grabbed me as a kid and I didn't become a Mavs fan until my 20's when I lived in Dallas. Either way, Jerry Jones has never and would never do anything as stupid as this, which is a big difference. He shopped Herschel Walker around and got a shit ton in return. The equivalent would be if he traded Patrick Mahomes from a few years ago for Russell Wilson, a decent WR, and a midround pick 5 years from now. It's just fucking asinine what the Mavs did here, the most jaw dropping of which is the lack of return. When the Thunder traded their stars they got tons of picks in return and have used them to stay at the top of the standings. It just feels like intentionally tanking the franchise. Jerry is dumb but his decisions aren't to intentionally hurt the franchise, and again, even he would never in a million years do something this stupid.

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41 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Man I'm the opposite, as much as I hate Jerry Jones and the dumbfucks he hires to coach, I can't get rid of my attachment. The trade here might kill my give a fuck for the Mavs. Maybe it's because the Cowboys grabbed me as a kid and I didn't become a Mavs fan until my 20's when I lived in Dallas. Either way, Jerry Jones has never and would never do anything as stupid as this, which is a big difference.

I grew up in Dallas and while the cowboys were obviously king, the Mavs started playing at exactly the right time in my life (I was 7)for me to fall in love with the team, and I had a connection to it I don’t have with the Cowboys. We grew up together. I root for the Rangers and the Cowboys, but I love the Mavericks.
Anyway I disagree that Jerry wouldn’t do anything this stupid. He would. But he wouldn’t and won’t do anything this  painful for the fans, for better or worse, because he’s one of us, and his life is in the city.
I think he understands that even though he owns the Cowboys, the star is bigger than Jerry Jones, and, the star is not The Star without the city and the fans. Thus to hurt the fans and the city diminishes him.
That was even more true with the Mavericks, because there is no national brand. The Mavs are essentially a large market version of the Hornets or Pelicans. Nobody outside of Dallas really cares about the Mavericks, and local ownership from Don Carter through Marc Cuban understood that. And I believe the Adelsons understand it too, which leads them in a very different direction, because they aren’t local to the city. The Mavericks are a piece on a chessboard for them, and nowhere near the most important piece. 

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9 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

My only two sports heartaches - anything approaching Horns losses to Tech in ‘08, Colorado in ‘01 or playoff losses the last two years - have been the Mavs collapse in ‘06 and moreso the Rangers in ‘11. Any Cowboys loss since San Fran in ‘95 NFC Champ hasn’t sniffed that territory

Agree with all that, but trading Luka this has replaced those for me. It’s not a perfect pass and catch in a close game. It’s not a fragile QB getting figured out and falling apart. It’s not the refs. It’s not just how baseball go. This was a direct fuck you to the city and the fans, straight from the management.  

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Letting an all-nba player walk away for nothing should be on Nico’s resume as well.

He also got a bit lucky with the Gafford / PJ deals as they were going after Kuzma. If Kuzma says yes, then they have a much different looking team. Kuzma and someone like Plummee aren’t taking the team to last years finals…

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I will always be a Cowboys fan, as much as I’d rather not be. Changing my allegiance for an NFL team feels about as natural as a colonoscopy. I hate them as a franchise, but I’m stuck.

This trade has really made me question my allegiance to the Mavs. I can’t make myself get excited about them - at all. Like most of you - I despise the Lakers - but Ive started following Lakers Twitter accounts and find myself looking for Lakers/Luka updates. No part of me cared if the Mavs won that game two nights ago. Just a few months ago my family had one of our favorite sports memories ever with the playoff run to the Finals.

This ownership/mgmt fucked the fanbase and it’s unforgivable. If AD gets healthy and they make a run - I will watch and hope for the best - but I don’t know how long it’s going to take to get back 100%, if ever.

My priority is Luka continuing his path to being one of the greatest ever.

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I’m talking Brunson.

He also didn’t sell high on Green and now Hardy is also a negative asset. Those things are a bit tricky, but a good GM sells at peak value. Both Green and Hardy could have garnered 1st round picks. Now Hardy is probably going to get cut.

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This thread looks like it's going well. 

Ugly win last night but I guess they all count the same. Both teams shot about 40% from the field. I was at a happy hour deal last night and they put the game on. That is seriously the first I've watched the Mavs since the trade. Just hard to get invested in watching this team. 

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16 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

I’m talking Brunson.

He also didn’t sell high on Green and now Hardy is also a negative asset. Those things are a bit tricky, but a good GM sells at peak value. Both Green and Hardy could have garnered 1st round picks. Now Hardy is probably going to get cut.

 

Green and Hardy were in similar situations - flashes of promise backed by oodles of talent.  We did the right thing in extending them to team friendly terms and *not* trading them while they flashed.  Neither of them would have garnered 1st round picks in a trade even in their hottest streaks.  Throw-ins or secondary pieces in a bigger trade, maybe, and that takes a little bit of mental gymnastics.  I think for those two we did the right thing - the risk of trading them early far outweighed the potential reward of what they could have turned in to for what we were paying them.  

 

16 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

I thought Brunson was more on The Cubes. 

It was a combination of Cuban and Donnie - they'd already set the dominos in motion and while Nico was here that season I haven't heard anyone who was around the team (media guys) say it was anyone's decision but Cuban's.

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"When your team's best player has been traded, 

And your new big man is overrated,

Just raise a glass with a friend or two, 

It's TULLAMORE TULLAMORE TULLAMORE DEW!"

Irish music and narrator. I hear that spot  every night while walking the dog. This shit rules. I used to work with them and wasn't a fan, but this changes things. 

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