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1 hour ago, South Austin said:

Yep. I include cinnamon in a daily protein/greens/fiber smoothie. Ginger and turmeric are also in the mix.

ok damn, you're screwed then.

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Not sure if this is the best thread, but it's related to health and longevity.  Has anyone tried Restore from a company called Cheers?   https://cheershealth.com/products/restore

Yes, I know that the best way to combat alcohol's effects on your body is to not drink at all.  But, for those times when you might consume more than a couple drinks in one setting (e.g., football games, dinner parties, drinking alone in your garage), the science behind this product is interesting.  Many of you may already know this, but when the body is trying to metabolize alcohol, it converts alcohol to acetaldehyde, which is way more toxic than alcohol.  This, along with dehydration, is why we can feel like shit the next morning after significant alcohol consumption.  And, acetaldehyde is a carcinogen, which is why alcohol has been linked to a higher rate of cancer. 

This product includes cysteine, which converts acetaldehyde into a non-toxic compound and supposedly neutralizes its negative effects on the body, allowing you to metabolize alcohol more efficiently, and reducing the hangover effects. 

A couple of my friends recently purchased these capsules and claim they work.  Anyone here ever tried this?

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22 hours ago, South Austin said:

Not sure if this is the best thread, but it's related to health and longevity.  Has anyone tried Restore from a company called Cheers?   https://cheershealth.com/products/restore

Yes, I know that the best way to combat alcohol's effects on your body is to not drink at all.  But, for those times when you might consume more than a couple drinks in one setting (e.g., football games, dinner parties, drinking alone in your garage), the science behind this product is interesting.  Many of you may already know this, but when the body is trying to metabolize alcohol, it converts alcohol to acetaldehyde, which is way more toxic than alcohol.  This, along with dehydration, is why we can feel like shit the next morning after significant alcohol consumption.  And, acetaldehyde is a carcinogen, which is why alcohol has been linked to a higher rate of cancer. 

This product includes cysteine, which converts acetaldehyde into a non-toxic compound and supposedly neutralizes its negative effects on the body, allowing you to metabolize alcohol more efficiently, and reducing the hangover effects. 

A couple of my friends recently purchased these capsules and claim they work.  Anyone here ever tried this?

Can't speak to this product but I saw an ad for an anti-hangover pill once. It was basically some combo of vitamins and salts. The directions were to take their pill after each alcoholic drink along with a full glass of water. lol.

Seriously if someone is worried about the health outcomes from drinking, cut back or quit.

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22 hours ago, South Austin said:

Not sure if this is the best thread, but it's related to health and longevity.  Has anyone tried Restore from a company called Cheers?   https://cheershealth.com/products/restore

Yes, I know that the best way to combat alcohol's effects on your body is to not drink at all.  But, for those times when you might consume more than a couple drinks in one setting (e.g., football games, dinner parties, drinking alone in your garage), the science behind this product is interesting.  Many of you may already know this, but when the body is trying to metabolize alcohol, it converts alcohol to acetaldehyde, which is way more toxic than alcohol.  This, along with dehydration, is why we can feel like shit the next morning after significant alcohol consumption.  And, acetaldehyde is a carcinogen, which is why alcohol has been linked to a higher rate of cancer. 

This product includes cysteine, which converts acetaldehyde into a non-toxic compound and supposedly neutralizes its negative effects on the body, allowing you to metabolize alcohol more efficiently, and reducing the hangover effects. 

A couple of my friends recently purchased these capsules and claim they work.  Anyone here ever tried this?

Don't know anything about it, but there is another brand, ZBiotics, that claims to do something similar.  You might check it out to see if it uses the same process or something different.

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This sums up my attitude on the pills:

https://www.nm.org/healthbeat/healthy-tips/do-hangover-pills-really-work

If you're just talking about a couple of drinks, try the supplements and see if they help with hangovers.  It's probably a bunch of B vitamins that perk you up and make your pee yellow.

If you are trying to prevent liver damage, I couldn't find much to support the idea behind the claims on cystine.  This study is pretty weak (animal models and low participant #) and from 2010.  I didn't dig deeper than that because I need to get to work.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3270338/

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3 hours ago, tigol said:

If you're just talking about a couple of drinks, try the supplements and see if they help with hangovers.  It's probably a bunch of B vitamins that perk you up and make your pee yellow.

 

Just drink a liquid IV or any brand of electrolytes before you start drinking and that usually offsets 90% of a hangover

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On 6/9/2025 at 9:41 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

As I wrote about earlier in this thread, I have slightly elevated BP and cholesterol #s which are controlled via meds. I would describe my PCP as not into uncommon tests or numbers for which he says that there is little to be done. I like him but that aspect bothers me a bit. I have a family history of heart problems so I interested in learning more even if its just understanding the genetic component. This week I signed up, on my own, for more health tests at Labcorp: LP(a), and their Heart Health Test including ApoB. 

Is there anyone else into testing on their own?

My PCP has rightfully indicated that if I'm that concerned about my heart health, then I should follow as healthy of a diet and exercise regime as possible and then not worry about anything. I don't disagree with that advice but I'm also a numbers guy. I also wouldn't describe myself as worrying about my health as I can be fairly unemotional about it.

Not that I expect anyone to be on the edge of their seats waiting on my health #s but to wrap up my story, the Lp(a) and ApoB results were low (good.) Statins keep my cholesterol to normal (low) level. unfortunately I've pulled myself the wrong direction in a diabetes risk index (DRI), which is supposed to give better insight than just a1c to identify the risk of developing type 2. I need to get off the path of turning into wilford brimley.

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I believe it was Troph I mentioned this to in the thread from a couple years, but Stan Efferding and his 10-minute walks are something you should seriously consider. Might check into his vertical diet as well and see if that’s something that you could do.

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10 hours ago, Herbie Hancock said:

I believe it was Troph I mentioned this to in the thread from a couple years, but Stan Efferding and his 10-minute walks are something you should seriously consider. Might check into his vertical diet as well and see if that’s something that you could do.

We had a thread specifically on longevity that fell off when this thread popped up. We talked  about it on that thread.

I try to walk 10 mins twice a day on my days off (from a workout) and after dinner as much as I can. 

major help on blood sugar. 

Jist of it is a 10 mins walk after every meal helps keep your blood sugar in check. 

but it’s only one thing and that isn’t enough. You gotta make all the changes once you’re in the danger zone. Wellness isn’t a singular decision it’s a thousand decisions. It’s how pharma took hold of our medicine, they (erroneously and falsely) offer a magic pill solution.  
 

at some point, we have to enjoy taking care of our bodies and our minds, when that enjoyment and satisfaction hits with every healthy decision, then we have a sustainable solution. 

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Nice one, troph. I work from home, so it can be a challenge. Twice a day I get up and walk back and forth from my bedroom, through the kitchen, living room, down the stairs, across the basement to the back bedroom. Reverse course back to my bedroom. rinse. repeat.

Effectively I end up in the basement right under where I started. It’s not much, but it’s something I can do during the day and not be “unavailable.” I shoot for 10 minutes, but force a minimum of 5. Sometimes a tick more than 10.

Drives the dog nuts. She doesn’t get basement access, so from my room to the stairs (and back from there) it’s like a parade. From time to time I make a couple laps around the upstairs just to fuck with her. 

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Just now, thunderlounge said:

Nice one, troph. I work from home, so it can be a challenge. Twice a day I get up and walk back and forth from my bedroom, through the kitchen, living room, down the stairs, across the basement to the back bedroom. Reverse course back to my bedroom. rinse. repeat.

Effectively I end up in the basement right under where I started. It’s not much, but it’s something I can do during the day and not be “unavailable.” I shoot for 10 minutes, but force a minimum of 5. Sometimes a tick more than 10.

Drives the dog nuts. She doesn’t get basement access, so from my room to the stairs (and back from there) it’s like a parade. From time to time I make a couple laps around the upstairs just to fuck with her. 

yea I work from home too, it's hard to get up and do it, days come and go and I don't. every chance to make the decison matters though. like today I haven't walked yet at all and I can feel my back wanting to tighten up.  this shit is brutal, it just never stops.

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On 6/16/2025 at 12:40 PM, South Austin said:

Not sure if this is the best thread, but it's related to health and longevity.  Has anyone tried Restore from a company called Cheers?   https://cheershealth.com/products/restore

Yes, I know that the best way to combat alcohol's effects on your body is to not drink at all.  But, for those times when you might consume more than a couple drinks in one setting (e.g., football games, dinner parties, drinking alone in your garage), the science behind this product is interesting.  Many of you may already know this, but when the body is trying to metabolize alcohol, it converts alcohol to acetaldehyde, which is way more toxic than alcohol.  This, along with dehydration, is why we can feel like shit the next morning after significant alcohol consumption.  And, acetaldehyde is a carcinogen, which is why alcohol has been linked to a higher rate of cancer. 

This product includes cysteine, which converts acetaldehyde into a non-toxic compound and supposedly neutralizes its negative effects on the body, allowing you to metabolize alcohol more efficiently, and reducing the hangover effects. 

A couple of my friends recently purchased these capsules and claim they work.  Anyone here ever tried this?

I bought these pills based on your post above, on pure whim and curiosity. I've tried hangover pills before, they're all bollocks. I've done hydrating during and before bed, and I'm no stranger to IVs in vegas, etc. In other words, I'm no stranger to how I feel after drinking, and the remedies, and at 45, pretty much anything more than 4 and I can tell the next day I was drinking, even if I don't feel bad. Anything past 6 and I'm guaranteeing a hangover. 

These pills are expensive...and I've got to say, based on the sample size of exactly one, I can tell a fucking difference.

Last night I probably had 7 drinks, starting at 4 pm, ending at 9 pm. I followed the instructions, went to bed, woke up at my usual 4-430 feeling like I haven't had a drink in days. I'm...going to continue experimenting with this shit after I get back from California, since that trip is going to be mostly dry. 

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20 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Last night I probably had 7 drinks, starting at 4 pm, ending at 9 pm. I followed the instructions, went to bed, woke up at my usual 4-430 feeling like I haven't had a drink in days. I'm...going to continue experimenting with this shit after I get back from California, since that trip is going to be mostly dry. 

Yesterday evening I tried the Cheers Restore, for science. I’d give it a similar review. After more than two drinks, it’s almost impossible to make my 4am wake up for the early morning workout. But after several glasses of wine last night, it was no problem. I sensed a little rust at the start of the workout, and it was probably because I didn’t hydrate as well as I could have.

I’m still going to maintain my general rule of not drinking during the workweek. But on those nights that are the exception, or if it’s the last night of vacation and I have an early flight home, or at the end of a college football Saturday, these pills are useful. But they shouldn’t be a license to drink more.

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6 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Yesterday evening I tried the Cheers Restore, for science. I’d give it a similar review. After more than two drinks, it’s almost impossible to make my 4am wake up for the early morning workout. But after several glasses of wine last night, it was no problem. I sensed a little rust at the start of the workout, and it was probably because I didn’t hydrate as well as I could have.

I’m still going to maintain my general rule of not drinking during the workweek. But on those nights that are the exception, or if it’s the last night of vacation and I have an early flight home, or at the end of a college football Saturday, these pills are useful. But they shouldn’t be a license to drink more.

You and your moral high ground are not the boss of me, sir!

Im thinking more of a “this is a license to continue to drink the exact same amounts.”

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On 6/9/2025 at 9:41 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

As I wrote about earlier in this thread, I have slightly elevated BP and cholesterol #s which are controlled via meds. I would describe my PCP as not into uncommon tests or numbers for which he says that there is little to be done. I like him but that aspect bothers me a bit. I have a family history of heart problems so I interested in learning more even if its just understanding the genetic component. This week I signed up, on my own, for more health tests at Labcorp: LP(a), and their Heart Health Test including ApoB. 

Is there anyone else into testing on their own?

My PCP has rightfully indicated that if I'm that concerned about my heart health, then I should follow as healthy of a diet and exercise regime as possible and then not worry about anything. I don't disagree with that advice but I'm also a numbers guy. I also wouldn't describe myself as worrying about my health as I can be fairly unemotional about it.

I was having BP issues several years back and everything else was at least in the vicinity of normal. GP prescribed a BP med and said he would be happy to refer me to a cardiologist to get a work up. Best advice I’ve ever had was getting referred to a research based interventional cardiologist. He put me through every test he had to figure out exactly what was causing the BP spikes and then slow dripped prescription changes until it was in line with where it needed to be. By the time it was done I was taking 1/8 of the dosage the GP wanted to give me and also dealing with some other issues I didn’t know I had. 

Heart disease runs in my family, so it was better to know everything. I go through a full battery of tests annually now where he can track any changes that need to be watched or dealt with. He’s also basically my GP at this point. I don’t take medicine for anything unless he prescribes it and I see him for general heath things that come up every once in a while.

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On the whole drinking thing, if you’re looking for pills to make you feel better it might be time to just quit. I was having a conversation with my teenagers a couple years ago about drinking and how pervasive it was in their classes. The parents didn’t seem to care and enabled it because they were doing the same thing. I packed up 100+ bottles of bourbon, gave them away, and haven’t thought about it again. The health benefits were pretty quick even though I only had a drink or two a few nights a week while cooking or eating with friends. Even a minor amount on a regular basis makes a difference.

The culture of alcohol consumption is odd when you really think about it. From being around my kids friends, it’s becoming a more significant problem in their age ranges than what I remember growing up.

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On the whole drinking thing, if you’re looking for pills to make you feel better it might be time to just quit. I was having a conversation with my teenagers a couple years ago about drinking and how pervasive it was in their classes. The parents didn’t seem to care and enabled it because they were doing the same thing. I packed up 100+ bottles of bourbon, gave them away, and haven’t thought about it again. The health benefits were pretty quick even though I only had a drink or two a few nights a week while cooking or eating with friends. Even a minor amount on a regular basis makes a difference.
The culture of alcohol consumption is odd when you really think about it. From being around my kids friends, it’s becoming a more significant problem in their age ranges than what I remember growing up.

I quit a couple of years ago as well and it has been the best decision for me. I was a very heavy drinker, but I was medicating underlying mental health issues.

I understand that many social drinkers do not have the same problems so to each their own. But from a physical and mental health standpoint quitting was the only way for me.

This book helped: https://a.co/d/dJ3PUgJ
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2 hours ago, South Austin said:

I’m still going to maintain my general rule of not drinking during the workweek. But on those nights that are the exception, or if it’s the last night of vacation and I have an early flight home, or at the end of a college football Saturday, these pills are useful. But they shouldn’t be a license to drink more.

I haven't used the pills, but I have the same general rule.  I just hydrate extra before drinking + a glass of water and 2 ibuprofen before bed. 

I can drop a 4 or 5 spot at a brewery or at the lake on a Saturday/Sunday, but drinking on a work night is very rare.  And then it's 2 drink max.  A couple of Oaxacan Old Fashioned last nights at a client dinner and I'm fine this morning.  

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1 hour ago, Brew said:

On the whole drinking thing, if you’re looking for pills to make you feel better it might be time to just quit. I was having a conversation with my teenagers a couple years ago about drinking and how pervasive it was in their classes. The parents didn’t seem to care and enabled it because they were doing the same thing. I packed up 100+ bottles of bourbon, gave them away, and haven’t thought about it again. The health benefits were pretty quick even though I only had a drink or two a few nights a week while cooking or eating with friends. Even a minor amount on a regular basis makes a difference.

The culture of alcohol consumption is odd when you really think about it. From being around my kids friends, it’s becoming a more significant problem in their age ranges than what I remember growing up.

 

26 minutes ago, tigol said:


I quit a couple of years ago as well and it has been the best decision for me. I was a very heavy drinker, but I was medicating underlying mental health issues.

I understand that many social drinkers do not have the same problems so to each their own. But from a physical and mental health standpoint quitting was the only way for me.

This book helped: https://a.co/d/dJ3PUgJ

To me, one of the problems of quitting is that there's a good chance that many in your life are drinkers and they're the ones who have a problem with your quitting. And not that they're bad people that want you to be an alcoholic or heavy drinker but rather that they want a drinking friend at times. Anyone can say those aren't your friends but that's not necessarily true. 

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To me, one of the problems of quitting is that there's a good chance that many in your life are drinkers and they're the ones who have a problem with your quitting. And not that they're bad people that want you to be an alcoholic or heavy drinker but rather that they want a drinking friend at times. Anyone can say those aren't your friends but that's not necessarily true. 

I hear you. It is up to me to put them at ease. I still hang out and my husband still drinks. I can feel when someone feels judged by it, usually family members, and I try to be kind and make them feel at ease as well.

I get it. The most important thing for me is to feel comfortable in my own skin. Not drinking helps and I tend to give off that vibe in a room, so most people relax around me while drinking.
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4 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

 

To me, one of the problems of quitting is that there's a good chance that many in your life are drinkers and they're the ones who have a problem with your quitting. And not that they're bad people that want you to be an alcoholic or heavy drinker but rather that they want a drinking friend at times. Anyone can say those aren't your friends but that's not necessarily true. 

I have a good friend that lives out of state that I get together with a few times a year. He quit about the same time but he was a bottle of wine + a night guy. His reasons were similar in that it was more about his kids than a personal issue with it. He orders NA beers when we’re out with others. I find it odd, but it’s what works for him.

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2 hours ago, Brew said:

On the whole drinking thing, if you’re looking for pills to make you feel better it might be time to just quit. 

I get that advice.  I'm not a constant heavy drinker, and I'm not looking for a magical hangover cure because I frequently get shitfaced.  Short of abstaining from alcohol altogether, I'm more interested in a supplement that combats the negative affects of alcohol on the system, because even a few drinks that doesn't cause hangover symptoms the next morning can still create toxins in our body.  And bringing this back to the longevity topic of the thread, I want to continue to enjoy beer and wine as I get older, and if there's a supplement that will mitigate the adverse effects of that on my body, I'm interested.

And, we consume a lot of other things that aren't good for us, even things that we know are linked to higher cancer rates.  BBQ, for example.  There's a good amount of literature talking about how the process for smoking meats creates carcinogens.  And red fatty meat in general is not as good as other leaner healthier meats.  But I love BBQ, and I'm not going to quit eating it.  But I don't eat it every week.

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Great insight and sharing going on. Thanks to all.

I pretty much stopped drinking often about 10 years ago. After that, it was maybe a few times a year I’d have a few. Typically at an event or get together. Other than that, I was having a beer every now and then, that was it. One was plenty.

In the past 5-6 years, it’s came to where maybe 2-3 times a year, if that, and one is more than enough. More times than not, I get 2/3 of it down and I’m content.

There’s a big family history with it, grandpa, both my aunts were bad (although socially functional), my mom some but not near as bad. When I was about 4, I was staying at my grandparent. At the time it was about a 3.5-4hr drive from where we lived. My grandma calls my mom one afternoon, grandpa was out cold on the couch, they better come get me.

That incident caused my mom and grandma to put the fear of God in grandpa. He quit cold turkey. FF almost 30 years and grandma passes away. This hurt my grandpa severely. Within 18 months he was off the wagon. He went though a phase where he’d drink himself sick over many months (roller coaster going down), end up in the hospital, they’d fix him (roller coaster going up), and he’d be good for a little while. Rinse, repeat, until 9 years later and they couldn’t fix him that time. A few weeks later, he passed.

My brother got bad for a while. Two DWI’s, didn’t phase him. Thankfully they were far enough apart the first one had dropped off. Both times were slaps on the wrist.

Then maybe 7-8 years ago he was coming home from work (at a bar/restaurant) late at night after closing up and hanging around after for some drinks. About 6 blocks from his house, he drops his smoke onto the floorboard, ends up going over the right side curb, plowed through the corner of someones  fence, taking out about 30ft of fence and “totaling” his car. Cops show up, he blows a .13, and takes the ride.

He gets a good lawyer, and he was lucky he did. After dragging it out about 4 months, out of nowhere he gets a call: all charges dropped. Apparently during discovery or whatever phase, after a couple months, the city could not prove whatsoever that the breathalyzer was checked and properly calibrated. Not just that shift, but on-going for the previous few weeks. So the judge dropped it, since they didn’t take a backup blood test. If they knew the machine was having issues, why not take a backup just to be safe? Their loss.

However, to be fully honest, it was probably the better outcome for everyone. Yeah, my brother was one lucky mother fucker, and should have had some form of punishment. However, that one night scared him straight. He hasn’t had a drink since that night. In the long-term grand scheme of things, it’s better for everybody. Better for him, as he quit the sauce. Better for the community as he isn’t out there driving intoxicated. Had he ended up in the system, I don’t think the same result happens, and the next time might have been fatally worse.

So yeah, that stuff has weighed heavily into my consumption. As well it should. I didn’t want any part of shit like that. Thankfully I can keep it in check. I was able to walk back from that line and be alright.

 

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