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It is kind of on honest question.  I won't act on my hate. And I think most people won't either.  But the level of assfuckery is so far through the roof, how in the heck hasn't the country already blown up?

Should I have MORE faith in human behavior than I do?

 

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5 hours ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

It is kind of on honest question.  I won't act on my hate. And I think most people won't either.  But the level of assfuckery is so far through the roof, how in the heck hasn't the country already blown up?

Should I have MORE faith in human behavior than I do?

 

No you should not.  When enough crazies lose their jobs, government handouts, and cheap shit from China things will start to go boom.  We just need enough wackos to start feeling that they have nothing to lose.  I think we’re almost there

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I don't know what is worse - Trump as an elected¹ PotUS or all those who actually voted for him.

 

 

 

¹I am becoming more conspiratorial minded that he wasn't actually elected & the "assassination l" was bogus.

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1 minute ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

I have come to believe that the votes in the swing states were absolutely tampered with.  I can't see how the assassination attempt was staged, but I could probably be convinced.

Somewhere months ago there was a credible article about some mathematician who did a statistical analysis of the voting patterns across the country and concluded the odds were something like a billion to one that type of voting patterns would have happened. I laughed at Magats who questioned the 2020 election, but with Elon and Russia firmly backing Trump, the possibility of fraud in the 2024 election is certainly not zero. 

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On 8/23/2025 at 5:52 PM, Ghost of NMAS said:

No you should not.  When enough crazies lose their jobs, government handouts, and cheap shit from China things will start to go boom.  We just need enough wackos to start feeling that they have nothing to lose.  I think we’re almost there

I want to subscribe to your newsletter/podcast. 

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1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

Somewhere months ago there was a credible article about some mathematician who did a statistical analysis of the voting patterns across the country and concluded the odds were something like a billion to one that type of voting patterns would have happened. I laughed at Magats who questioned the 2020 election, but with Elon and Russia firmly backing Trump, the possibility of fraud in the 2024 election is certainly not zero. 

One of these guys? 

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Mathematicians, statisticians, and data scientists at several academic institutions and research organizations conducted statistical analyses of the 2024 election. Because no single individual conducts all such analyses, here are some of the key contributors and organizations. 
Academic institutions
  • Chandrasekhar Putcha: This professor emeritus of civil and environmental engineering at Cal State Fullerton used a mathematical model based on engineering principles to predict the 2024 presidential election outcome. His model correctly forecast a win for Donald Trump.
  • MIT Election Lab: The lab publishes comprehensive reports on U.S. election performance. Its "2024 Survey of the Performance of American Elections" was released in July 2025 and is a major source for understanding 2024 voting patterns.
  • Andrew Gelman: A professor of statistics and political science at Columbia University, Gelman is well-known for his election modeling. He and his team track candidates' chances throughout election seasons.
  • Steven Ansolabehere: A professor at Harvard's Institute for Quantitative Social Science, Ansolabehere created the Cooperative Election Study (CES). The CES is a large-scale survey that provides a detailed dataset for experts to study Americans' voting habits.
  • Natasa Dragovic: An assistant professor of mathematics at the University of St. Thomas, Dragovic and her students develop mathematical models to understand winning campaign strategies and forecast election results. 
Research organizations
  • Pew Research Center: This nonpartisan fact tank published a detailed post-election analysis of voting patterns in June 2025. Its findings showed that while former President Trump's coalition was more racially and ethnically diverse than in 2020, much of this shift was due to differences in voter turnout, not widespread vote-switching.
  • Center for American Women and Politics (CAWP): A research center at Rutgers University, CAWP focuses on the gender gap in voting patterns. Its post-2024 analysis highlighted significant differences in vote choice by gender, race, and age.
  • CIRCLE (Center for Information & Research on Civic Learning and Engagement): A research group at Tufts University, CIRCLE focuses on young voters. Its analysis of the 2024 election examined the breakdown of the youth vote by race and candidate preference.
  • Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI): PRRI conducts post-election surveys to analyze the relationship between religion, values, and voting behavior. Its December 2024 analysis detailed how different voter demographics, including religious and racial groups, voted in the election. 

 

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3 hours ago, ROFL BOX said:

I don't know what is worse - Trump as an elected¹ PotUS or all those who actually voted for him.

No contest, it's the fuckers who voted for him.  We've always had stupid, evil fucks in this country but it wasn't until the rubes banded together and corrupted the brains of many more that any of these shitheads got elected President.

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4 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Somewhere months ago there was a credible article about some mathematician who did a statistical analysis of the voting patterns across the country and concluded the odds were something like a billion to one that type of voting patterns would have happened. I laughed at Magats who questioned the 2020 election, but with Elon and Russia firmly backing Trump, the possibility of fraud in the 2024 election is certainly not zero. 

The rightward shift from 2020 to 2024 in the swing states was less, at 3 - 4 points, than it was in the rest of the country (more like 6 - 7). That doesn't point to any tampering.

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2 hours ago, 6th Street said:

No tampering, just an overall shitty, thrown together campaign from a candidate nobody wanted in Harris.

This is mostly the correct answer.

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2 hours ago, 6th Street said:

No tampering, just an overall shitty, thrown together campaign from a candidate nobody wanted in Harris.

I heard that we sent our best troops up into Belgium while failing to guard the Ardennes.

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8 hours ago, 6th Street said:

No tampering, just an overall shitty, thrown together campaign from a candidate nobody wanted in Harris.

How to account for the Harris voters from the 1st cycle?  Didn't THEY want her?

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19 hours ago, berlinerbaer said:

The rightward shift from 2020 to 2024 in the swing states was less, at 3 - 4 points, than it was in the rest of the country (more like 6 - 7). That doesn't point to any tampering.

I can’t find the article. I do remember his analysis was on nationwide voting patterns, not just swing states. And the irregularity had to do with the uniformity of gains across all voting zones. Look this is tin foil hat stuff but it was an interesting article. I pay attention to math.  

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On 8/24/2025 at 5:44 PM, Dbeasy said:

Somewhere months ago there was a credible article about some mathematician who did a statistical analysis of the voting patterns across the country and concluded the odds were something like a billion to one that type of voting patterns would have happened. I laughed at Magats who questioned the 2020 election, but with Elon and Russia firmly backing Trump, the possibility of fraud in the 2024 election is certainly not zero. 

No, but it’s close. To zero
 

What’s more likely?

1) a nationwide data tampering so vast and sophisticated that it flawlessly produces convergent results across literally hundreds of diverse vote collection and counting regimes and timelines while also correlating to directional metrics before the election, like registration data and prior polling error, yet manages to leave no human footprint,

or

2) a party in the climactic stages of a decades long shift away from primarily representing working class and middle class economic interests to primarily representing affluent, professional class social interests lost a convergent fraction of working class support across geographies?

Democrats lost in 2024 because the party is dominated by people who don’t get it, and people who don’t get it don’t get that they don’t get it. 

Its like the Kirk Watson team when he almost lost to Celia Israel- until he came up short in the general he still thought housing affordability was a poor people’s problem or a property tax problem for old folks. It was only when she nearly beat him that the team realized it was the central issue of the campaign for 60-70% of the voters. 
 

 



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