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47 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

 

They always have been and will continue to be extremely cautious with him as they are with all of their players coming off injury. But he's not on any sort of permanent minutes restriction as far as I know. He played 20 minutes against OKC. 25 last night. They are just ramping him up.  He was playing ~35 minutes a game before he got hurt. He's 21. You guys are dreaming / being ridiculous.

With regard to comparisons to Holmgren, you're the doctor... you tell me the likelihood of the deep vein thrombosis coming back to be something chronic or that is career altering? That seems like a one off, especially in the upper body. Chet, on the other hand, had a lisfranc injury before he ever played an NBA game and fractured his pelvis. He seems a lot more fragile to me and he doesn't look like he's filling out the way Wemby is even though he's two years older.

I hope the Spurs remain extremely cautious with Vic not only for his long term health but also to the point where they keep him out enough to not hit 65 games and isn't eligible for the super max. Helps their cap down the road. As long as he's healthy for the playoffs... 

My doctor hat?  Not even close - anyone growing like Wemby is at that age is MUCH more susceptible to injury.  That’s not normal and in the rare instances you see it, yeah, the vast majority of times you start to see chronic issues.  
Maybe it was BS rumors but several sources said he grew 2-3 inches in the last year or so.  That’s absolutely insane at his age and prior height.  
 

edit: tons of studies.  Not often I post NIH here…

Overall injury incidence and burden were greater in pre-PHV players with quicker growth rates compared to players growing moderately and slowly. All in all, players with more rapid growth-rates were at higher risk for growth-related injuries in all pre-, circa- and post-PHV periods. Post-PHV, the incidence and burden of joint/ligament injuries were 2.4 and 2.6-times greater in players growing slowly compared to players growing moderately. Practitioners should monitor growth rate and maturity status and consider their interaction to facilitate the design of targeted injury risk reduction strategies.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10765440/

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23 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

My doctor hat?  Not even close - anyone growing like Wemby is at that age is MUCH more susceptible to injury.  That’s not normal and in the rare instances you see it, yeah, the vast majority of times you start to see chronic issues.  
Maybe it was BS rumors but several sources said he grew 2-3 inches in the last year or so.  That’s absolutely insane at his age and prior height.  
 

edit: tons of studies.  Not often I post NIH here…

Overall injury incidence and burden were greater in pre-PHV players with quicker growth rates compared to players growing moderately and slowly. All in all, players with more rapid growth-rates were at higher risk for growth-related injuries in all pre-, circa- and post-PHV periods. Post-PHV, the incidence and burden of joint/ligament injuries were 2.4 and 2.6-times greater in players growing slowly compared to players growing moderately. Practitioners should monitor growth rate and maturity status and consider their interaction to facilitate the design of targeted injury risk reduction strategies.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10765440/

Thanks for the article. He's such a physical outlier anyway, One of one. I don't know how analogous adolescent academy soccer players playing for a club team in Europe are to the type of specific training and attention to injury prevention that Wemby has been going through since he was 14 years old. The strained calf and the ankle sprains I think are par for the course for NBA players in general. 

I was speaking more specifically to the deep vein thrombosis than growth-related injuries like Osgood-Schlatter´s disease. Since that's what knocked him out of the season last year. I think the reports that he's still growing are bullshit, but who knows? He played 71 games as a rookie and then 46 out of 52 games last year before the DVT. But for sure injuries were always going to be the biggest question about his career.

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5 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Thanks for the article. He's such a physical outlier anyway, One of one. I don't know how analogous adolescent academy soccer players playing for a club team in Europe are to the type of specific training and attention to injury prevention that Wemby has been going through since he was 14 years old. The strained calf and the ankle sprains I think are par for the course for NBA players in general. 

I was speaking more specifically to the deep vein thrombosis than growth-related injuries like Osgood-Schlatter´s disease. Since that's what knocked him out of the season last year. I think the reports that he's still growing are bullshit, but who knows? He played 71 games as a rookie and then 46 out of 52 games last year before the DVT. But for sure injuries were always going to be the biggest question about his career.

For me he passes the eye ball test.  He doesn’t have the acromegaly features Oden did for example.  I think he will be around a long time and be an all time great but anyone that height is a crapshoot.   

DVT’s are very often a sign of some other underlying condition so I can’t be sure on that one.  
 

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11 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

For me he passes the eye ball test.  He doesn’t have the acromegaly features Oden did for example.  I think he will be around a long time and be an all time great but anyone that height is a crapshoot.   

DVT’s are very often a sign of some other underlying condition so I can’t be sure on that one.  
 

Good insight.  Thanks.

I remember after Chet's hip fracture an orthopedic surgeon wrote that it was fluky but he got very lucky.  Said that had he broken the actual hip socket, it might have ruined his career.  He said that the fracture he did have was easily rehabbed but a VERY painful injury.  That bore out to be true and he played heavy minutes throughout the playoffs.

He'll always be rail thin is my guess....

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In case anyone was wondering if the Blazers are still being used by the mob to win bets, the Kings got screwed on a foul call to end the game in OT. They somehow call this foul on Westbrook, give continuation and Deni gets 2 shots to win the game with 1.5 seconds left on the clock after review. This was right after the Kings went up 1 point with 4.4 seconds left. So incredibly corrupt to determine a game on a terrible call, but then to also get the game time wrong and grant shots.  

 

 

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14 hours ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

Spencer fuckin Jones making a statement for the Nuggets. Love his play the past few weeks.

 

Him getting lots of playing time is the only bright spot to all the injuries.  He's playing really well, especially defensively.  And hitting some clutch 3s.

That 2nd quarter run was crazy last night.  

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Totally normal basketball play from FTA. I wish they'd start enforcing the leg kicks again.  Kicking your legs out so you land on the defender's feet is just so gross. Nobody outside of the state of Oklahoma wants to watch this shit.

 

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Couldn't go a page without it and that game was a week ago.

Since we're all obsessed with OKC, I was watching them a little last night and Dort has really gone to shit offensively.  He was never a good shooter but improved his way to roughly 40% from 3 the last two years by both working on it and taking better/fewer shots.  He was an offensive liability before that.  He's sucking shit this season to the point they've really cut his minutes.  He was one year left on his contract but that's a team option.  Cason Wallace also has one more year and he's better than Dort at literally everything and plays the same position.  (Dort might be better on ball but Wallace leads the league in steals by a wide margin.)  

Smart thing to do is dump Dort and keep Wallace but Dort is SGA's BFF.  Not sure what Cason gets in the open market so maybe they can't afford him anyway with paying the other 3 big guys.

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Couldn't go a page without it and that game was a week ago.
Since we're all obsessed with OKC, I was watching them a little last night and Dort has really gone to shit offensively.  He was never a good shooter but improved his way to roughly 40% from 3 the last two years by both working on it and taking better/fewer shots.  He was an offensive liability before that.  He's sucking shit this season to the point they've really cut his minutes.  He was one year left on his contract but that's a team option.  Cason Wallace also has one more year and he's better than Dort at literally everything and plays the same position.  (Dort might be better on ball but Wallace leads the league in steals by a wide margin.)  
Smart thing to do is dump Dort and keep Wallace but Dort is SGA's BFF.  Not sure what Cason gets in the open market so maybe they can't afford him anyway with paying the other 3 big guys.
We're just sick of OKC's shit. And we means the rest of the league.
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2 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


He hates every ref alive

I saw it and what led to it, I'd feel the same. Just repeatedly calling the ref a piece of shit, lol

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12 hours ago, Chewbacca said:
18 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:
Couldn't go a page without it and that game was a week ago.
Since we're all obsessed with OKC, I was watching them a little last night and Dort has really gone to shit offensively.  He was never a good shooter but improved his way to roughly 40% from 3 the last two years by both working on it and taking better/fewer shots.  He was an offensive liability before that.  He's sucking shit this season to the point they've really cut his minutes.  He was one year left on his contract but that's a team option.  Cason Wallace also has one more year and he's better than Dort at literally everything and plays the same position.  (Dort might be better on ball but Wallace leads the league in steals by a wide margin.)  
Smart thing to do is dump Dort and keep Wallace but Dort is SGA's BFF.  Not sure what Cason gets in the open market so maybe they can't afford him anyway with paying the other 3 big guys.

We're just sick of OKC's shit. And we means the rest of the league.

 

10 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

Finch crashed out like 5 minutes into the game lmao

 

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3 hours ago, ztejas said:

League smells blood with this pussy Thunder team. 

when you think of it, theyve gotten away with murder the past 3 years with their defense bullshit. 67 wins, 56 wins, a championship  and 25-3 start the past 3 years. With SGA(who isn't some out of the world talent we've never seen, he's very good and an MVP) but Joker isn't even close to any of those starts, and hes better than SGA. 

His robin, JDub isn't some out of this world history will remember him type player. Hes very good, i actually like him, one of the few thunder players i like. but is all nba 2nd or 3rd team his ceiling? probably. so theyve got 2 all nba players, and a string bean 7 footer that can easily disappear from games as he can impact them. Their role players dont have a single 6th man candidate. they know their role and they play it well. but enough to win all of these games night in night out? OKC frustrates the hell out of you with their football style defense, get you out of your game, often play victim on the other end when you try to input the same defense they do  and thats how we end up where we are right now. one of the least respected best teams I can think of. 

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37 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 

 

This absolute madman choosing an outside table at night in Minneapolis in December

Bitchass aggy Caruso will be guest picker for College Gameday. Morning after taking a big L. You love to see it

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2 hours ago, chainsaw said:

This absolute madman choosing an outside table at night in Minneapolis in December

Bitchass aggy Caruso will be guest picker for College Gameday. Morning after taking a big L. You love to see it

that was definitely a pic from probably summer. Finch is known for outdoor eating. DT minneapolis has snow all over it too lol. 

 

Not a single establishment that offers outdoor seating would have the patios open right now heh 

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