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    Texas Jeff

    I thought it might be helpful to have a separate topic related to the vaccine.  If this is too much duplication, mods please delete this thread.  I thought it would be good to talk about who can get the vaccine, where they can get it, what side effects people are seeing, and in general what is going on with distribution.

    The CDC has published vaccine distribution guidelines, and if you care, they are worth reading.  They are dividing the timeline into:

    • Phase 1 - Potentially limited supply of COVID-19 vaccine doses available
    • Phase 2 - Large number of vaccine doses available
    • Phase 3 - Sufficient supply of vaccine doses for entire population

    Who you are will determine if you are eligible for a vaccine in the various phases.

    Phase 1 is divided into a Phase 1a and a Phase 1b:

    • Phase 1a - Mostly healthcare workers
    • Phase 1b - Other essential workers, people with higher risks, people over 65

    If you are eligible to get the vaccine and they have in in stock and you want to get it, it is important to go get it.  Both of the first two vaccines can spoil, so if a dose is sitting there and you aren't there to get it, they might have to throw it away.

    Both vaccines require two shots.  It is important to go get that second shot.

    Who fits in phase 1b and who has to wait until phase 2 might be a sticking point.  The "people in higher risks" category includes a lot of folks, maybe more than you would think might be in that category.  Hopefully we can quickly get to phase 2 so that we don't spend too long arguing about who is or is not in Phase 1b.

    Anyway, I'm interested in everyone's experience with the vaccine and especially getting the word out for those that can go get it, so that every dose ends up in an arm rather than in the trash.

     

     


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    Hmm…I had assumed the freak phenomenon of “Sudden Medical Expertise (But Just in the Limited Area of COVID Medical Expertise)” was just a 2020-2021 phenomenon.

    Sadly, it appears it to have flared back up in some people…like gonorrhea.

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    On 9/25/2023 at 5:29 PM, Deej said:

    Wait until you get the two shingles shots. I've never felt worse in my life. 

    I made the mistake of commenting, "Are the shingles really worse than that?" to a person who had had shingles, and as shitty as those shots were, shingles are apparently waaaaaay worse.

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    46 minutes ago, mdleast said:

    Hmm…I had assumed the freak phenomenon of “Sudden Medical Expertise (But Just in the Limited Area of COVID Medical Expertise)” was just a 2020-2021 phenomenon.

    Sadly, it appears it to have flared back up in some people…like gonorrhea.

    Like flies on shit 

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    Probably the Covid origins thread is a better place. You got people interested in putting aside common sense and Bayesian analysis to juggle red balls over there. 

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    I had shingles about 20 years ago.  My doc gave me a prescription for oxy-something.  I am terrified of addiction, and I stared at that bottle of pills for nearly a week w/o taking any.  It sucked, monumentally so.  My outbreak was the common "stripe" on the torso -- some people get it near their eyes and go blind.  Fuck that.

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    19 minutes ago, dcbc said:

    Whatever it is, it's twelve hours later and no ill effects, not even a sore arm. They must be making the chips smaller.

    That’s good to hear.  Timing is the issue for me.  My last two shots knocked me out good for about a day and a half. I have a lot going on during the weekends this fall and I don’t want to miss any work, so I keep pushing it off closer to Thanksgiving.

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    15 minutes ago, South Austin said:

    That’s good to hear.  Timing is the issue for me.  My last two shots knocked me out good for about a day and a half. I have a lot going on during the weekends this fall and I don’t want to miss any work, so I keep pushing it off closer to Thanksgiving.

    The two OG shots knocked me down pretty hard.  The third shot (September 2021) knocked me down, but less so.

     

    The bivalent shot plus flu shot last year was unnoticeable like the combo yesterday.  Unbothered.  That makes it a lot easier for sure.

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    On 9/26/2023 at 7:58 PM, mdleast said:

    Hmm…I had assumed the freak phenomenon of “Sudden Medical Expertise (But Just in the Limited Area of COVID Medical Expertise)” was just a 2020-2021 phenomenon.

    Sadly, it appears it to have flared back up in some people…like gonorrhea.

    Intuitional "expertise" has not been influenced by outside sources any more than that of the deniers, right?  #rolleyes.

    If you want the shot, get the shot.  Just like any other medical care.

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    On 9/26/2023 at 8:58 PM, mdleast said:

    Hmm…I had assumed the freak phenomenon of “Sudden Medical Expertise (But Just in the Limited Area of COVID Medical Expertise)” was just a 2020-2021 phenomenon.

    Sadly, it appears it to have flared back up in some people…like gonorrhea.

    wait.  gonorrhea is bad?

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    Intuitional "expertise" has not been influenced by outside sources any more than that of the deniers, right?  #rolleyes.
    If you want the shot, get the shot.  Just like any other medical care.

    Yes, just like any other medical issue, I think it’s absolutely reasonable (and what pretty much everyone did pre-COVID) to rely upon the recommendations of the supermajority of medical professionals. Since that supermajority has previously and currently recommends getting the COVID shot (“jab” to you timid types) I will continue to follow the recommendations of the medical community on this and all other medical matters.

    To do otherwise should cause you to #rolleyes
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    1 hour ago, slorch said:

    Intuitional "expertise" has not been influenced by outside sources any more than that of the deniers, right?  #rolleyes.

    If you want the shot, get the shot.  Just like any other medical care.

    Is this satire?

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    1 hour ago, mdleast said:


    Yes, just like any other medical issue, I think it’s absolutely reasonable (and what pretty much everyone did pre-COVID) to rely upon the recommendations of the supermajority of medical professionals. Since that supermajority has previously and currently recommends getting the COVID shot (“jab” to you timid types) I will continue to follow the recommendations of the medical community on this and all other medical matters.

    To do otherwise should cause you to #rolleyes

    Jump to conclusions mat is working nicely.

    I am not one of ‘those folks.’ I swear this discussion is religious for you fuckers.  It’s absolute devotion or the other person is the devil.

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    Jump to conclusions mat is working nicely.
    I am not one of ‘those folks.’ I swear this discussion is religious for you fuckers.  It’s absolute devotion or the other person is the devil.

    Funny you say that as that’s exactly what I thought of you based on your prior response: this discussion is religious for you. Not religion for me: just following the recommendations of the medical establishment just as I always have. I’d submit to you that (only since COVID) has the issue of (not) following the recommendations of the medical establishment become religion for some and I do think it’s time we take the issue back from the dumb people.

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    6 minutes ago, mdmost said:

    It is slorch. Funny enough, bring up gonorrhea and a Tech person shows up. 

    Usually, you bring in a Tech person and gonorrhea shows up. 

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    5 hours ago, dcbc said:

    Whatever it is, it's twelve hours later and no I'll effects, not even a sore arm. They must be making the chips smaller.

    My arm hurt for two days, but I'm also a giant pussy when it comes to needles. Also got a little tired, but far less than the initial round of covid vaccines. 

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    1 hour ago, Parliament said:

    When will this thing be available at walk-in clinics and pharmacies?

    CVS and Walgreens were taking appointments last week for shots this week. 

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    I've got my flu and COVID shots scheduled for after work today.  Hoping for improved reception.

    My doc recommends spacing them out by two weeks as well as the rsv vaccine. Her results with those wanting both has been shitty.
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    2 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:


    My doc recommends spacing them out by two weeks as well as the rev vaccine. Her results with those wanting both has been shitty.

    I think I posted this previously but I had the combo last year and had a pretty severe allergic reaction-broke out in hives, one doctor speculated it was a chemical burn, maybe bleach didn’t rinse in the wash or something.  
     

    I was miserable for about a week before I went to see a dermatologist who immediately called it an allergic reaction, recommended Benadryl, and it was gone in 12 hours.  

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    1 hour ago, Texzilla58 said:


    My doc recommends spacing them out by two weeks as well as the rsv vaccine. Her results with those wanting both has been shitty.

    Shitty how?  Like they end up getting the flu, COVID, or both, in spite of the shots?  Or they feel shitty after the shot combo versus getting one at a time?  Because I don't feel bad at all and didn't feel bad when I got them at the same time last year either.  That's just my anecdotal experience, and I recognize your doc has a larger anecdotal pool of patient experiences to pull from.

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    3 hours ago, Parliament said:

    When will this thing be available at walk-in clinics and pharmacies?

    I'm not in a major metro, but I made my appointment Wednesday morning and there were appointments available all day.  Of course, I don't live in the part of the state that's super gung-ho about getting vaccinated. 

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    On 9/25/2023 at 5:29 PM, Deej said:

    So you don't think the last booster helped keep you from getting it the previous 7 months? The immunity from it is going to wane. 

    Wait until you get the two shingles shots. I've never felt worse in my life. 

    I got the two shingles shots last Nov and this Jan. I was a bit tired after them but nothing that even remotely compared to:

    1) Appendicitis - I was in the surgery prep room, and it perforated. I was hoping for death.

    2) Pancreatitis - the organ was creating so much digestive juice that it was digesting itself. I was in the ICU for a week stabilizing.

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    I'd rather shatter my hand again than deal with a high fever. I had a fever of 104 after the shingles shot. I hate whole body, down in my bones pain from that shit. 

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    12 hours ago, mdleast said:


    Funny you say that as that’s exactly what I thought of you based on your prior response: this discussion is religious for you. Not religion for me: just following the recommendations of the medical establishment just as I always have. I’d submit to you that (only since COVID) has the issue of (not) following the recommendations of the medical establishment become religion for some and I do think it’s time we take the issue back from the dumb people.

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    Nope  Cool with the shots.  Cool with the boosters.  I laugh at the victory laps.  I mean a good haircut feels good too.

    I took the initial Cv-19 vax.  did not take the others.  I've also taken one flu shot in my entire life, unless it was also  in the litany of shots we got in the military.

    I'm not anti-vax. I got my childhood shots.  So did my kids.  There's nothing wrong with minimizing medicinal intake though That's been my approach without the politics and horseshit for most of my life, way the hell before CV-19 showed up.

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    On 9/26/2023 at 8:02 PM, Beau Vine said:

    I made the mistake of commenting, "Are the shingles really worse than that?" to a person who had had shingles, and as shitty as those shots were, shingles are apparently waaaaaay worse.

    I just had the Shingrex vax. I heard like you did and was prepared for the worst. Really, to be honest, I was kinda anxious about it for a few days before.

    These old people are full of it. The DTAP shot hurt worse. Covid shot hurt WAY worse.

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    13 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

    Yes.  Because, strategic genius that China is, they KNOW that the key to making America fall is....destroy Goldthwaite.

    Well, anyone who has driven from Austin to Colorado knows that Goldwhaite is a strategic crossroads town, up there with Bastogne, in that it’s your first sign of civilization with gas station bathrooms that don’t look like the one in Trainspotting. 

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    12 hours ago, FunDip said:

    I just had the Shingrex vax. I heard like you did and was prepared for the worst. Really, to be honest, I was kinda anxious about it for a few days before.

    These old people are full of it. The DTAP shot hurt worse. Covid shot hurt WAY worse.

    Nobody was talking about how much the shot hurt. What kind of pussy thinks shots hurt? 

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    10 minutes ago, Deej said:

     

    Nobody was talking about how much the shot hurt. What kind of pussy thinks shots hurt? 

    Well the shot itself didn't hurt, but the Shingles Vax put a hurting on me.  It's kinda infamous for being shitty.

    That said, EVERYONE says shingles sucks, so I was happy to get the vax and deal with side effects

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    15 minutes ago, The Bell Tolls for Thee said:

    Food for thought in this testimony from a PhD in South Carolina.

    For some background, he thinks we did the best we could at the time with the time constraints we had. Also is a strong proponent of the mRNA platform.

    He sampled and then sequenced old vials of Pfizer vaccine. Lots of contamination with DNA. Effects TBD.

     

     

    Phillip Buckhaults - College of Pharmacy | University of South Carolina (sc.edu)

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    I stopped at the store and out of curiosity I asked at the pharmacy if they had the new Covid vaccine. They do. I was about to say I’m waiting in line but before I could type that they called me in. Quick and painless, just like the first three. 

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    TX cares results came in for my HS aged daughter over the last week. Her last vaccine was 07/2021. Her S ab level is through the roof, she has N converted as expected. There is no reasonable basis for giving her another shot at this point. The CDC recommends doing the dance all the way down to 6m olds. Risk segmentation for some of the olds that keep excel files of grocery store price changes here are not relevant to other population segments. 

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