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NFL Owners Propose 18 Game Schedule


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With a 16 game limit for each player. Lmao. So fucking stupid.Having to go find a kicker and punter off the street for 2 games. Being forced to play your backup QB for 2 games.

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The idea is hardly new, but it’s emergence as a formal concept in collective bargaining is.

Andrew Beaton of the Wall Street Journal reports that, as part of the NFL’s push for 18 regular-season games, the league has advanced the possibility of an 18-game season with a per-player limit of 16 games per year.

That idea has been percolating for years; it’s been the subject of multiple PFT stories, PFT Live discussions, and #PFTPM monologues.

Most recently, the topic was discussed during an interview with Hall of Fame head coach Tony Dungy last month, the video of which is attached to this blurb (the question is asked at the 9:37 mark).

The next day, Coach Dungy called after the show with another important observation: Some fans will revolt against an 18/16 approach. For example, this year the Browns play at Arizona in Week 15; it’s Cleveland’s once-per-eight-years trip to the desert. Browns fans in Phoenix who want (and who paid) to see Baker Mayfield, Odell Beckham, and Jarvis Landry play would be upset if they found out 90 minutes before kickoff that one or more of them is healthy, but not playing.

As to Mayfield and all other quarterbacks, the problem could be solved by an exception for that position, given the enhanced safety rules that apply to them. (Kickers, punters, holders, and long-snappers would/should get similar treatment.) Still, the NFL has plenty of stars who aren’t quarterbacks, and plenty of fans would be plenty pissed off if they show up for a game hoping to see a star player who isn’t playing because this is one of the two games that he won’t be playing.

The fact that the NFL would even suggest such a revolutionary concept, one that oozes with unintended consequences, shows how desperate the league is to expand the regular season — and how effectively the NFL Players Association has rebuffed those efforts. At this point, the league may get 18 games only by making the players a financial offer they can’t refuse.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/12/report-owners-have-proposed-18-games-with-a-16-game-limit-for-each-player/

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20 hours ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Would they expand rosters? 

this is a huge need.  Only 46 game active and 53 total right? That's way too low. NBA has 15, ie 3 for each position. If the NFL did that, have 66 + 2 specialists. But compromise with 60 and each be game active. Too many very talented guys don't have jobs due to owner greed.  Going from 53 to 60 is a good move and will only cost each team about $3-4mil given the min salaries. 

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On 7/12/2019 at 3:50 PM, Gene Parmesan said:

Would they expand rosters? 

 

21 hours ago, NowThis said:

this is a huge need.  Only 46 game active and 53 total right? That's way too low. NBA has 15, ie 3 for each position. If the NFL did that, have 66 + 2 specialists. But compromise with 60 and each be game active. Too many very talented guys don't have jobs due to owner greed.  Going from 53 to 60 is a good move and will only cost each team about $3-4mil given the min salaries. 

[sarcastic joke] Rosters are already too big. 3 for each position would be 11 x 3 = 33. That's right, the pussies need to go back to playing both ways. NBA doesn't have separate positions for offense and defense. MLB doesn't either,  except for pitchers in the American League. [/sarcastic joke]

Rosters should be expanded. The number of games and the number of teams need to stay as is.

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The NFL has dropped a proposal for an 18-game season and is now focused on expanding the regular season to 17 games, ownership sources said. Owners were briefed on the change at committee meetings in Houston this week. The current schedule is 16 games.

“Not enough owners support (for) 18 and players would not go for it either,” one of the sources said of why the change. The 17-game proposal will be paired with a reduction in the preseason by a game or two from the current four.

There are 18 months remaining on the current 10-year collective bargaining agreement, and the big ask from the owners in the early negotiations that started this summer has been an expansion of the regular season. Owners even floated earlier the idea that players could take two games off an 18 game season.

That idea was widely mocked as unfeasible given fans would be unhappy if they bought tickets and didn’t see all the players.

“Quite honestly, that is a hard sell to fans,” Green Bay Packers president Mark Murphy told reporters this summer.

“We’re looking at the overall structure of the season,” said Murphy, who is a former NFL player and is on the owners’ labor committee “And quite honestly, our preseason is not very good…I would be very concerned about the health and safety aspects of adding two regular season games. And so I think there’s a number of things we’re looking at. I think also…(is) the possibility of expanding the playoffs.”

While the NFL has dropped a game from its regular season length proposal, it is not abandoning possibly expanding the playoffs by an extra team per conference. That is still being discussed by owners. The NFLPA has resisted previous efforts to extend the season.

“I don’t see an 18-game schedule — under any circumstances — being in the best interest of our players,” NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith told ESPN.com in July. “If somebody wants to make an 18-game proposal, we’ll look at it. I haven’t seen anything that makes me think that it would be good for the players.”

The NFLPA couldn’t immediately be reached for comment on if it has a different position on 17 games. No talks are currently scheduled between the NFLPA and NFL, but they are expected to resume later this year or early in 2020. Beyond regular season expansion, key issues are the commissioner’s disciplinary authority, revenue share, drug policy on marijuana, and expanding pensions.

 

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On 7/12/2019 at 1:33 PM, DFW Horn said:

Greedy bastards already force craptastic preseason games on season-ticket holders. 💩

Which is why this keeps getting discussed. Shortening the preseason seems inevitable, and the owners aren't going to let their number of cash grabs go down without a fight.

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