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7 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Question: Did one of those two teams agree to give up their turn hosting Farmageddon, or is this being treated as a one-off and the hosting rotation continues after this year?

KSU gave up the home game.  We won’t go back to Manhattan until ‘28 if current scheduling holds.

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4 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

KSU gave up the home game.  We won’t go back to Manhattan until ‘28 if current scheduling holds.

I'd love to see the finances behind this decision. Moving a rivalry game to Week 0 is harder on both teams.

TV money > Sold-out home game for KSU?

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5 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

KSU gave up the home game.  We won’t go back to Manhattan until ‘28 if current scheduling holds.

Am I misremembering or is it currently not an annual/ protected game? I really hope the conference changes that someday if so. 

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8 minutes ago, LTbear said:

Am I misremembering or is it currently not an annual/ protected game? I really hope the conference changes that someday if so. 

It’s not being played in 2027.  Both fanbases are livid.  Both ADs couldn’t care less.

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1 hour ago, DFW Horn said:

I'd love to see the finances behind this decision. Moving a rivalry game to Week 0 is harder on both teams.

TV money > Sold-out home game for KSU?

Back in the day I remember that Stillwater businesses expected at least 6 home games a year so we were fine playing neutral site games so long as the schedule allowed for six home games. Looks like KSU still gets six home games this year. I found they also are playing Arizona as a non-conference game from pre-realignment scheduling. I wonder if that's the last one?

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27 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

It’s always attended well and sold out. The Irish love it as well. I’d love to see Texas play Notre Dame there. 

I would probably have to find a way to make that game.

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48 minutes ago, Crockett said:

Dublin is great. Wonder how many fans will travel vs locals attending...

I think both ISU and KSU sold out their allotments, but a solid 1/3rd of the crowd tends to be locals.

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Looks like BYU will be starting a true freshman at QB after the Retzlaff drama and exit. 

Bachmeier had offers from Alabama, Notre Dame, Texas A&M, Michigan, Oregon, Arkansas and Michigan State coming out of high school. He chose Stanford, won the starting job in the spring, but with the departure of the HC he transferred to BYU and now won the starting job again. The team is good enough that he just needs to be solid and manage the game. Could be a bumpy year or special year if he steps up because the rest of the pieces are in place. 

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8 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:
8 hours ago, Crockett said:

Dublin is great. Wonder how many fans will travel vs locals attending...

I think both ISU and KSU sold out their allotments, but a solid 1/3rd of the crowd tends to be locals.

That should make for a neat fan experience with some good interaction to be had I'm thinking.

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On 8/15/2025 at 10:41 AM, Al_4_ISU said:

It’s not being played in 2027.  Both fanbases are livid.  Both ADs couldn’t care less.

Similar to Baylor and TCU not playing Texas Tech this year. The BUTT Bowl and TCU/Tech games aren't on Farmageddon's level, but they're still rivalry games that are usually really good games compared to random ass games like Baylor @ Cincinnati or Tech vs UCF.

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The Big XII is perfectly set up for pod scheduling. Why are conferences so against this? I sort of got it when there were still divisions but now it would be solely for scheduling to keep locals together on an annual basis. I just do not understand. 
 

West: BYU, UU, ASU, AU

North: ISU, KU, KSU, CU

South: TT, Baylor, TCU, OKST

East: WVU, UCF, Cincy, UH
 
The only geographic outlier is UH but somebody has to go east and UH makes far more sense than ISU because the north is perfectly set up as old Big 8 rivals. UH is a newb with more recent history with the AAC newbs. WVU would have the biggest beef but sorry you got nowhere else to go haha.

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15 minutes ago, 'stache said:

The Big XII is perfectly set up for pod scheduling. Why are conferences so against this? I sort of got it when there were still divisions but now it would be solely for scheduling to keep locals together on an annual basis. I just do not understand. 
 

West: BYU, UU, ASU, AU

North: ISU, KU, KSU, CU

South: TT, Baylor, TCU, OKST

East: WVU, UCF, Cincy, UH
 
The only geographic outlier is UH but somebody has to go east and UH makes far more sense than ISU because the north is perfectly set up as old Big 8 rivals. UH is a newb with more recent history with the AAC newbs. WVU would have the biggest beef but sorry you got nowhere else to go haha.

Right and I get not wanting divisions or you end up with 7-5 CU as the B12 North champion. You have scheduling pods, but have the standings be like they currently are where it's the top 2 get a trip to Arlington regardless of the pod. As far as UH not fitting, they'd still get a Texhoma game a year plus a vast improvement to the schedule over their AAC days. You could even have it where inter-pod scheduling is uneven if you want more UH vs Texhoma or CU vs Western teams.

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2 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Right and I get not wanting divisions or you end up with 7-5 CU as the B12 North champion. You have scheduling pods, but have the standings be like they currently are where it's the top 2 get a trip to Arlington regardless of the pod. As far as UH not fitting, they'd still get a Texhoma game a year plus a vast improvement to the schedule over their AAC days. You could even have it where inter-pod scheduling is uneven if you want more UH vs Texhoma or CU vs Western teams.

And the issue of some teams having an easier path to the top 2 spots is already an issue since you can’t do a round robin with 16 teams. A handful of “protected” games is just dumb. This would protect all of the relevant ones.

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37 minutes ago, 'stache said:

The Big XII is perfectly set up for pod scheduling. Why are conferences so against this? I sort of got it when there were still divisions but now it would be solely for scheduling to keep locals together on an annual basis. I just do not understand. 

Same, I do not understand why conferences have such an issue with informal pods. 

You do not have to treat it like the NFL and have 4 formal divisions, because you can't for the purpose of CCGs (can't do a 4 team playoff within your conference), but an informal division to keep historical rivals together for scheduling purposes is what fans want.

I want Texas to play OU, aggy and arkansas every single year.  I do not want to give up arky just to play Kentucky or MSST or South Carolina instead.  

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

The Big XII is perfectly set up for pod scheduling. Why are conferences so against this? I sort of got it when there were still divisions but now it would be solely for scheduling to keep locals together on an annual basis. I just do not understand. 
 

West: BYU, UU, ASU, AU

North: ISU, KU, KSU, CU

South: TT, Baylor, TCU, OKST

East: WVU, UCF, Cincy, UH
 
The only geographic outlier is UH but somebody has to go east and UH makes far more sense than ISU because the north is perfectly set up as old Big 8 rivals. UH is a newb with more recent history with the AAC newbs. WVU would have the biggest beef but sorry you got nowhere else to go haha.

I could support this, even if the East pod is a bunch of misfits. West (with ASU on the rise and AU somewhat competitive now) and South pods would be the saltiest. 

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17 minutes ago, Crockett said:

East pod is a bunch of misfits

The expansion to add those 4 schools was a misfit reaction in and of itself.  Was so fucking random.  So it fits. 

Posted (edited)

If USC/UCLA had announced their exit a year earlier, or UT/OU announced their move a year later, the eastern AAC misfits would likely not have been added. Just more realignment absurdity based on arbitrariness such as, in this case, timing.

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1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I always liked the idea of bringing in Cincy and BYU.  Houston and UCF will always feel weird to me.

Cincy made some sense as a partner for WV in terms of geography, and its only 600 miles from Ames.  Houston made sense when the Big 12 lost SE Texas to the SEC (LSU, aggy and Texas all gone) + the money Fertitta has pumped into their program(s). 

UCF..... that one was dumb.  Memphis was the better geographic play - less than 500 miles to Cincinnati, Stillwater and Lawrence

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8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Cincy made some sense as a partner for WV in terms of geography, and its only 600 miles from Ames.  Houston made sense when the Big 12 lost SE Texas to the SEC (LSU, aggy and Texas all gone) + the money Fertitta has pumped into their program(s). 

UCF..... that one was dumb.  Memphis was the better geographic play - less than 500 miles to Cincinnati, Stillwater and Lawrence

It just cracks me up that only being 600 miles away from the 2nd closest school is a good argument for logical conference geography.

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