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47 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

A degree doesn't need to be critical to remember things from conversations folks have with each other. Does one need a degree to remember that my neighbor has 2 kids? Does one need a degree to remember Thursday is trash day? 

You know, it's almost like behavior is demonstrating intelligence here. 

Wednesday is trash day.

But when it comes to OU and A&M, every day is trash day.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:



Maybe the real fucking lesson here is that slorch should learn to stop speaking in fucking absolutes, and maybe he won't end up posting back to back shit like "I don't remember where anyone ever went to school" and "I almost always remember where people went to school" in back to back posts. Guy has to be the worst, most ineffectual Sith of all time. 

The point was that yes, in passing, I might know where they went to school.  The other part was with regard to assessing their performance/ value.  The notion that we're at work thinking about how bad Cathy sucks because she went to Missouri is asinine.  "Hey we have 10 candidates to interview. 4 of them are from Austin.  I know they will be the top 4..."

You know that too.  You got me though.  Congratulations.

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6 minutes ago, Iceman said:

The point was that yes, in passing, I might know where they went to school.  The other part was with regard to assessing their performance/ value.  The notion that we're at work thinking about how bad Cathy sucks because she went to Missouri is asinine.  "Hey we have 10 candidates to interview. 4 of them are from Austin.  I know they will be the top 4..."

You know that too.  You got me though.  Congratulations.

Who on earth is letting you manage and hire people? You don't think the overall quality of someone's education has an impact on their performance in a job? If you're talking about senior roles, fine. Entry or lower management roles? Yes, that shit matters. 

We were hiring entry level folks for the same analyst position for years at a start-up. The role required very little knowledge or experience but involved complex problem solving in a truly chaotic environment that involved 70+ hour weeks for years. The role also required self-management to some degree. We rewarded that with low pay. Oh, and also, the right person would basically learn what MBA schools teach, but like 10 times over and many successful in the role went on to accelerated management or founder careers with success. 

What we eventually learned was that a few schools, or groups of schools, had exceptionally high failure rates and we chose to just stop hiring from those places out of necessity. LSU, Stanford, and non-Penn Ivy schools were the main ones. LSU because the people we kept getting from there were too stupid to handle the work, simply put. They also were not given the tools in college to understand how to be proactive for their own growth and learning in a business setting. It was unbelievable how consistently bad those employees were. The non-Penn Ivies and Stanford because they were far too entitled and educated in theory versus actual business world understanding. Those folks needed to go into consulting or a Wall Street management program. Once we applied that filter, 1 year retention in role soared. 

So, yeah, you're absolutely full of shit if you don't think quality of degree earned matters. 

The best workers who went on to further success were not UT people, btw. We had plenty of UT people do well, but plenty failed out due to the same entitlement shit as the Ivies. The best group, by far, were UH grads. I've seen that playout elsewhere over the years as I've gotten older and hired for various roles or partnered with various people and teams. 

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