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Just now, Hank_Hill said:

My PT friend 6 beers deep from across the living room said he looked injured on the TVs 

That's why they are a PT not a doctor /sarcasm

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You guys really need to wake up to reality. I broke down every dropback in the first half of that Monroe game, it was a significantly worse performance than Ohio State. The timestamps are below, just jump to them and watch for yourself. Objectively look at the plays he's making or rather not making and ignore the commentators that are literally blowing him for simply being able to tie his shoes

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First play of the game in GIF form, same side-armed off balance delivery you saw Saturday. Helm runs an out to clear the flat/under for Golden, ball has to be gone ASAP Arch sees Will commit to rush. Golden is open, read and throw are late allowing contact, side armed, off back foot delivery that sails, lucky not to be a pick

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And there's no rationale behind this decision, most 8th graders know better than to make that throw 

 

Everything in the summary is unbiased, if anyone wants to dispute it go ahead. But it might have been the worst game I've ever seen a Texas QB play. He should have had 7 TD's and 6 INT's in the first half, 4 INT's were dropped/misplayed and 5 TD's were missed due to bad throws

00:42 late read, Golden is wide open and waits too late allowing LB to get pressure. Sidearm overthrow that could have been picked  

00:58 first read, 5 yard hitch, Moore is wide open 

01:10 first read isn't open, bails on progressions, steps up into clean pocket and creates artificial pressure leading to minimal gain

01:40 decent throw, requires diving catch by Bolden 

02:00 panics under pressure, throws duck into triple coverage that's picked off 

04:55 great ball, legitimate nfl throw assuming he's just not airing it out  

07:50 doesn't feel pressure, late throw while hit that's off target. can argue the blocking scheme sucked, but he should know the timing of a blitzing lb getting home on that play from practice

08:10 first read, 5 yard quick slant to helm who is wide open as corner is playing off on 3rd and 12

08:35 first read, simple flat route to blue 

10:50 rb screen thrown off back foot, off target. there's slight pressure by design but shouldn't cause the misfire, should have still been caught but the ball location fucks up the play's momentum regardless

11:00 wingo is open, ball underthrown by 10 yards and could have been picked but ultimately draws PI

11:20 good throw, wingo is wide open

11:50 te/wr screen

12:20 busted coverage, wingo is wide open. basic throw any high school qb can make

15:20 bolden is wide open for a long td, ball is overthrown when it could have been lofted for an easy td. result is diving attempt but ultimate drop

16:25 first read, horrible decision and throw. only reason this isn't a pick 6 is because it's off target by 5 yards

16:45 slight underthrow, if he leads golden it's probably a TD

17:10 golden is open on a 5 yard hitch/dig, misses him, panics under pressure and takes a sack

18:10 blue is wide open on a wheel route for a td, overthrown by 2-3 yards 

18:53 goal line fade that's off target by 3 yards, should have been picked as he threw it directly inside to the db rather than the outside/wr shoulder

26:25 accurate ball, but it's into triple coverage and should have been picked

26:40 blue is wide open on another wheel route for a long td, overthrows him when noone is within 10 yards of him

27:20 tight throw into coverage to a rb, he does good job going through progressions to get to his 3rd read but should have never made this throw as it's very dangerous and is ultimately picked on the ricochet

ULM couldn't stop the run and didn't have the athletes to cover the WR's, they were forced to load the box, and sit in cover 0/1 with a safety 30 yards downfield. It can't possibly get any easier than that as the WR's were literally wide open all game 

Anyone thinking his release/arm strength is close to NFL level should take a look at 16:25. He got owned by that DB. I just don't understand why Sark gave him the keys to the team/paid him like the best player in CFB as a freshman unless truly elite QB's don't trust him with their careers and Arch was the best he could get. Either that or Kiffin was really the QB guru at USC and Sark just shared the credit/doesn't know how to scout 

The one thing I will say in Arch's favor is Sark's scheme is dogshit vs Ohio State's Tampa 2/cover 3. Those mesh/rub concepts essentially let Downs take away 4 positions at the same time. He could sit in the hole and and take away both crossers, spy Arch, and help in the run game without taking a step. Georgia's 3-4 is even worse as those dragging WR's get hung out to dry vs LB's in zone 8-10 yards off the LOS. The concept is worthless vs anything but man/cover 1/quarters

And fwiw, the team could theoretically still win the title with him as the run game looked formidable and the defense still elite, but it would be one hell of an uphill battle. Many SEC teams will have made adjustments from last year and scheme a better way to attack our defense, and Arch's limitations will limit the offense to  ~20-25 ppg in conference play. Finally be prepared for the worst vs OU, it's a guarantee Venables spent the last 9 months tailoring a defense to make Arch look like dogshit and Mateer's style is virtually indefensible, may very well be a repeat of Gabriel running wild in 2023 but this time with no offense to keep up

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Posted
1 hour ago, Zeus said:

dropped TD at 3:49 was brutal too

jaggerson made up for it later, but to me this was the backbreaker, even more than the tush push fail. 

Watch below using full screen starting at 4:32 and make use of pause a few times at 4:33 and at 4:34. His right arm gets forced down and pinned against his side preventing him from making the catch. 

 

 

 

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Posted
39 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Much like the Ewers thread, this one continues to fuel my general disdain for our fanbase.

 

25 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

Our fan base is both hilariously unhinged, yet entertaining when people start going off the rails. That's CFB for us. 

If you follow MBG then you know we’re not as bad as others. 

Posted
39 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Much like the Ewers thread, this one continues to fuel my general disdain for our fanbase.

At least no one is blaming the officiating for issues with Manning's mechanics.

Yet.

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23 minutes ago, catastrophic789 said:

 Finally be prepared for the worst vs OU, it's a guarantee Venables spent the last 9 months tailoring a defense to make Arch look like dogshit and Mateer's style is virtually indefensible, may very well be a repeat of Gabriel running wild in 2023 but this time with no offense to keep up

I do expect the Texas offense to struggle vs OU, to be frank. Venables generally does a good job with his defensive game plan vs Sark. But the second part is just dumb. The Texas pass defense was awful in 2023. Horrible in the secondary and a mediocre pass rush, and only that good because of two freaks on the interior. OU used the same game plan Texas used on Michigan, get Murphy and Sweat moving laterally and at tempo to neutralize them. Then they let their NFL QB go to work. That OU offense would be handled by the 2024 or 2025 Texas defense and the OU offense we'll see this year will not be as good at any level. First offense to 21 likely wins the RRS.

 

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17 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

At least no one is blaming the officiating for issues with Manning's mechanics.

Yet.

Even better we have some rube stating it’s on purpose so Sark can get himself fired

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Posted
1 hour ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Much like the Ewers thread, this one continues to fuel my general disdain for our fanbase.

So stop opening the threads. This is a very simple solve. But instead, what you choose is to rage respond thereby promoting this thread to the top of the forum sub. You, and people like you are exactly the reason so many rage baiting social media people are millionaires. So.. thanks for all you do. 

Posted
6 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

Arch can't seem to control the velocity in his throws. His deep throws are beautiful but short and intermediate ones are hard to catch because he doesn't take anything off. Quinn was the opposite. 

This is a huge problem.  If true, how likely is this is getting fixed this season? The whole point of developing for 2 years before taking reign was to minimize some of these issues/shortcoming.  Let's just hope it was truly nerves and the moment that fucked up his mechanics.  Otherwise we are in for a very rough season.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Zeus said:

 

dropped TD at 3:49 was brutal too

jaggerson made up for it later, but to me this was the backbreaker, even more than the tush push fail. 

 

Also, Wingo was wide open for a TD coming across as their DBs screened themselves....

He will watch tape, learn from his mistakes, and adapt to hit these later this year. Should be rolling by the Florida game for sure. 

Honestly I was a little worried about the game at Florida for us, but after watching this defense play, I think we roll Florida at Florida pretty easily. 

I thought this was a mis read.  Wingo is breaking open when he throws to a well covered Livingstone

 

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Posted

Finally be prepared for the worst vs OU, it's a guarantee Venables spent the last 9 months tailoring a defense to make Arch look like dogshit and Mateer's style is virtually indefensible, may very well be a repeat of Gabriel running wild in 2023 but this time with no offense to keep up

You put so much effort into that post, just to accidentally reveal yourself as a Sooner troll here.
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Posted
4 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

I thought this was a mis read.  Wingo is breaking open when he throws to a well covered Livingstone

 

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It’s definitely a misread. The play is designed to go to Wingo and he is open. 

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Posted
11 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

He had all offseason for this.  The offense was as vanilla as ever for an early game.  

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That was to a large extent the offense most of the day.  

I love that offense. I should have liked him to deliver the ball to his playmakers... like a QB does. 

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Arch's kinematic sequence looked "off" for a good chunk of the tOSU game and the ULM game last year - maybe that is how he throws, off balance with no foundation and bad footwork, but I'd doubt it.

It isn't until the adrenaline wears off do you start to act normal (4th quarter); it's just nerves.  He's young and the weight of the college football world seemingly on his shoulders, just mind fucked.

You see it in sport all of the time.   Wild outcomes that you never thought possible.... Anything involving firing the smaller muscles tends to not function well under extreme pressure and you do stupid shit.

Uncle Rico level shit. 

He will be fine, relax.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Zeus said:

Damn nice he played for THE San Antonio Rustlers?!?!!!!111

His Wikipedia specifically highlights the game where he came in and took a knee twice.  Twice, bro! 

Posted
3 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

If you can put up with some Ian Boyd for 10-15 minutes, here is him and Wadlington breaking down a few Arch plays in the first half of the video. 

 

our defense is so good.... 

Posted
3 hours ago, Wally Pryor said:

At least no one is blaming the officiating for issues with Manning's mechanics.

Yet.

His mechanics weren't good. Didn't seem to be the issue, but they were an issue. 

Posted
5 hours ago, Zeus said:

 

dropped TD at 3:49 was brutal too

jaggerson made up for it later, but to me this was the backbreaker, even more than the tush push fail. 

 

Also, Wingo was wide open for a TD coming across as their DBs screened themselves....

He will watch tape, learn from his mistakes, and adapt to hit these later this year. Should be rolling by the Florida game for sure. 

Honestly I was a little worried about the game at Florida for us, but after watching this defense play, I think we roll Florida at Florida pretty easily. 

Re-watching this game I came away with two major points. Wingo got mugged hard on several plays. Those would get called in the NFL easily. Also, this defense is going to fuck some teams up. 

Posted
5 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

My PT friend 6 beers deep from across the living room said he looked injured on the TVs 

That's also the stage where beer goggles kick in. 

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Did not see this posted but after watching it looks like Arch moves well in the pocket. Also, not having wide receivers open is probably put to rest by this breakdown done by Chase Daniels.

 

Posted
4 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

So stop opening the threads. This is a very simple solve. But instead, what you choose is to rage respond thereby promoting this thread to the top of the forum sub. You, and people like you are exactly the reason so many rage baiting social media people are millionaires. So.. thanks for all you do. 

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