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49 minutes ago, slorch said:

exactly my point.

 

Do you think Payton Manning cusses little kids and drills them in the back with footballs? because I've seen him do it on TV...

Great point because we all know in his spare time Peyton was an elected official writing laws. 

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32 minutes ago, Continental Op said:

Slorch,

Could you.point me in the direction of posts saying that this show is non-biased straight down the middle reporting?

Could you point out the post where I said it needed to be?

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18 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

Which party are you waiting on to pull their head out of their ass?

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. 

The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. 

 

Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. 

The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

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18 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

Which party are you waiting on to pull their head out of their ass?

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. 

The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. 

 

Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. 

The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

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18 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

Which party are you waiting on to pull their head out of their ass?

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. 

The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. 

 

Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. 

The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

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18 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

Which party are you waiting on to pull their head out of their ass?

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. 

The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. 

 

Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. 

The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

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18 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

Which party are you waiting on to pull their head out of their ass?

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. 

The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. 

 

Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. 

The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

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18 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

Which party are you waiting on to pull their head out of their ass?

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. 

The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. 

 

Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. 

The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

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18 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

Which party are you waiting on to pull their head out of their ass?

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. 

The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. 

 

Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. 

The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

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18 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

Which party are you waiting on to pull their head out of their ass?

The first one to do it. There's some sh!t I'm conservative about and there's some sh!t I'm progressive about. Which leaves me with no "tribe". The left is, in my opinion, becoming too radicalized. Don't agree with their opinion on %100 of the issues? Then you're a nazi. 

The right, for all their bullsh!t about cutting spending and lowering our massive debt, is acting like a 16 year old that stole her dad's credit card. 

 

Though I know there will NEVER be a legitimized 3rd party in this country, there should be. 

The first party to fully back TERM LIMITS will no doubt be where I hang my hat.

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On 7/14/2018 at 2:46 PM, Clob94 said:

Is that what this is all about? "Getting" people? Is that the game we've chosen to play in this country? Don't get me wrong, I could give two solid sh!ts about Nugent or Palin, but if the goal here is to try and humiliate one side or the other, that's a zero sum game. As a true centrist and constitutionalist I fail to see how playing "gotcha" with people helps anything. Is this what we've become? A nation divided into two tribes that only care about keeping score of slights? What about those of us with no tribe? I can't join the right because I don't care who marries who and I feel a woman's body is her own damn business. I can't join the left because I refuse to cave on gun registration that could one day harm law abiding citizens AND I see the left careening toward full blown socialism. 

 

So as I sit here only hands waiting on one political party to pull their head completely out of their a$$es, I must also be subjected to the daily artillery of "gotcha" tactics. It's childish and beneath us. 

 

People need to grow the fvck up. 

You know, you COULD just also grow up a bit and type s-h-i-t... Or hell, even fuck. Or pussy.

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6 minutes ago, relapse98 said:

Gaetz, in his small segment, came off sensible, unlike so many others like retard Joe Walsh.

Yup, that was my biggest takeaway. Other people whined to the media when they realized they had been duped, somehow Matt fucking Gaetz was smart enough to not put himself in front of a teleprompter and start reading off bullshit.

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8 hours ago, Continental Op said:

Your contention was that "the Surly centrists" considered this show to be fair and balanced.  Where did anyone say that? 

there's more than one thread one the board.

 

It was related a discussion on where people were assessing their own placement on the political spectrum.

 

i can't read the whole gotdam board to ya bro.  The people who know, know WTF it was about.   Others just took offense.

 

Not really my problem, but I didn't call for SBC's show to change its political stripes.

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10 hours ago, GSU&UT said:

Yup, that was my biggest takeaway. Other people whined to the media when they realized they had been duped, somehow Matt fucking Gaetz was smart enough to not put himself in front of a teleprompter and start reading off bullshit.

Gaetz must have been sober.

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On 7/14/2018 at 2:46 PM, Clob94 said:

Is that what this is all about? "Getting" people? Is that the game we've chosen to play in this country? Don't get me wrong, I could give two solid sh!ts about Nugent or Palin, but if the goal here is to try and humiliate one side or the other, that's a zero sum game. As a true centrist and constitutionalist I fail to see how playing "gotcha" with people helps anything. Is this what we've become? A nation divided into two tribes that only care about keeping score of slights? What about those of us with no tribe? I can't join the right because I don't care who marries who and I feel a woman's body is her own damn business. I can't join the left because I refuse to cave on gun registration that could one day harm law abiding citizens AND I see the left careening toward full blown socialism. 

 

So as I sit here only hands waiting on one political party to pull their head completely out of their a$$es, I must also be subjected to the daily artillery of "gotcha" tactics. It's childish and beneath us. 

 

People need to grow the fvck up. 

Chill, my dude. By 'get' I meant 'get on the show.' As in, it would be entertaining to watch those particular individuals interact with SBC, in my opinion. Your opinion may be different, and that's fine. Or you may be projecting. Either way, see my first sentence.

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14 hours ago, relapse98 said:

The art lady gave him some pubes. Who punked who?

I watched some of that episode this morning. I thought it was horrible. I did not care for the art lady interview or the conservative couple at the dinner table. I'm just not into that kind of stupid, Austin Powers type of gross, teenage humor. I really thought it was going to be better than that. I'll keep watching a little more in hopes that my opinion changes. 

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Is Cohen going to show or discuss the segment where Ted Koppel threw him out of his house because he realized that it was a fake interview?

https://slate.com/culture/2018/07/ted-koppel-escaped-his-sacha-baron-cohen-interview-just-by-knowing-night-from-day.html

I put Cohen in the same category as James Okeefe. He gets himself into interviews or discussions by lying.  Weak.  The Daily Show, Colbert Report or This Week Tonight at least has (or had) always named themselves to allow the interviewee to understand it was a comedy show upfront.   But I find Okeefe and Cohen both to be manipulative and an extremely poor version of the aforementioned shows.  Instead of relying on lies to make a funny show, why not put a little more intellectual creativity into it and demonstrate how bad someone is and maintain some integrity.

 

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26 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

I watched some of that episode this morning. I thought it was horrible. I did not care for the art lady interview or the conservative couple at the dinner table. I'm just not into that kind of stupid, Austin Powers type of gross, teenage humor. I really thought it was going to be better than that. I'll keep watching a little more in hopes that my opinion changes. 

SBC doesn't do highbrow.  He isn't Colbert.  Borat was entirely gross, teenage humor with some political commentary thrown in.  So were Ali G and Bruno.  He put his nuts in Eminem's face, for crying out loud.

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5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

He sells himself to his interviewees that he is a journalist.   He is the one blurring the lines not me.

This. You can't tell at all that he's doing a bit. It just comes off as being so serious.

 

Unless you are kinda slow.

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15 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

He sells himself to his interviewees that he is a journalist.   He is the one blurring the lines not me.

Regardless, he is openly filming them.  It isn't candid camera.  People open up their inner piece of shit because he pretends to agree with them.  Mostly, he tricks them into revealing their true selves.  Borat didn't make frat guys think slavery would be good.  They thought that on their own and were in complete agreement with who they thought was a Kazakh journalist.  However, there are other people in Borat who told him to cool it.  Funny how other people couldn't be "tricked" into being racist shitbags.

If a supposed reporter told you they round up Jews in his country, would you tell him to fuck off, or would you say on camera that its a good practice?

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3 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Regardless, he is openly filming them.  It isn't candid camera.  People open up their inner piece of shit because he pretends to agree with them.  Mostly, he tricks them into revealing their true selves.  Borat didn't make frat guys think slavery would be good.  They thought that on their own and were in complete agreement with who they thought was a Kazakh journalist.  However, there are other people in Borat who told him to cool it.  Funny how other people couldn't be "tricked" into being racist shitbags.

If a supposed reporter told you they round up Jews in his country, would you tell him to fuck off, or would you say on camera that its a good practice?

I don't disagree.   I fully admit that I don't watch his shows as I don't think they're funny or even revealing.    And as I posted, good for Ted Koppel to kick him out when things didn't seem right.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Why is this in the Politics board?  Seems like Movies & TV or Lulz would be more appropriate.

 

Or do we want to start TV show discussions here?

Because a number of "conservatives" started coming out about how they were bamboozled. 3/4 of the show was in fact politics based. Politics Board seems appropriate.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I don't disagree.   I fully admit that I don't watch his shows as I don't think they're funny or even revealing.    And as I posted, good for Ted Koppel to kick him out when things didn't seem right.

Ah ok. Yeah, if you didn't watch, then I can see how you wouldn't understand anything about the show.

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37 minutes ago, relapse98 said:

Ah ok. Yeah, if you didn't watch, then I can see how you wouldn't understand anything about the show.

From what I've read, he invites famous (maybe not so famous) people to an interview or to accept an award, he dresses up in a disguise and then asks them ridiculous questions or get them to read from a teleprompter.  Hilarity ensures.

so yeah I get how his TV shows work.    It takes about 30 seconds to get Cohen's shows.  I find it sad that he's stuck repeating the same formula again and again, like James OKeefe.      

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14 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

From what I've read, he invites famous (maybe not so famous) people to an interview or to accept an award, he dresses up in a disguise and then asks them ridiculous questions or get them to read from a teleprompter.  Hilarity ensures.

so yeah I get how his TV shows work.    It takes about 30 seconds to get Cohen's shows.  I find it sad that he's stuck repeating the same formula again and again, like James OKeefe.      

I find it sad that it works.

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The fact that there are people who can't laugh at the situation where a South Carolina couple are too polite (or completely believe that "liberals" are that far out there) to stop the conversation when a guy admitted his wife has an annual 3 month lady's intermission with a dolphin goes a long way into explaining the popularity of Chuck Lorre.

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On July 15, 2018 at 8:03 PM, SKJ said:

You know, you COULD just also grow up a bit and type s-h-i-t... Or hell, even fuck. Or pussy.

Ass, too

Yes, I COULD assume that my language won't offend anyone or I could use a modicum of civility and not not cuss like a sailor until I knew it wouldn't offend people......

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