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11 hours ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

The Departed. 
 

there’s a rat in the crew! Someone’s a cop!

 Think it is one of the mass murderers or the only guy that doesn’t kill?

 Who’s that?

you know, the one that went to cop school.  

There was at least one other guy that didn’t kill people because there was a second rat in the crew, the guy that got the address wrong on purpose. 

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I missed the first wave of Sinners when it became a bit of a circular, virtous cycle where the hype begat more hype and people were breathlessly impressed, but from what I've gathered as a late to the party guy is the reception has come back to earth a bit. Anyways, to the plot hole:

Or is it a plot hole? But the whole "I guess my brother just couldn't kill me" at the end and how the vampire struck a secret, off camera deal in 5 minutes, that I won't kill you if you promise to leave our cousin alone.

Firstly, everything we saw in the movie and the vampires in that universe is once they turn they aren't governed by any higher order thinking like family, loyalty, honor, making an oath, etc. but they are primal, needing to feed and gain more souls for the hive mind.

Secondly, the idea of brokering this sort of deal in the 5 minutes needed was absurd. 

The non-plothole would have ruined a cute ending and twist.

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The entire film is wildly overrated if that makes you feel any better. 

I dont understand this opinion. Now that Ive seen Infernal Affairs, which was an inspiring, yet flawed original and lost something in translation, I especially dont understand this opinion.

There’s not any aspect of the movie that was not well done and seeing Nicholson act in a thriller with a great director is a rare treat. And I can rewatch this movie a million times.

With respect to the mole hunt, keep in mind moles and informants arent always good guys. That Costello himself was a mole proves the point and adds to the storytelling - irony and shit.
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7 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:


I dont understand this opinion. Now that Ive seen Infernal Affairs, which was an inspiring, yet flawed original and lost something in translation, I especially dont understand this opinion.

There’s not any aspect of the movie that was not well done and seeing Nicholson act in a thriller with a great director is a rare treat. And I can rewatch this movie a million times.

With respect to the mole hunt, keep in mind moles and informants arent always good guys. That Costello himself was a mole proves the point and adds to the storytelling - irony and shit.

My favorite little detail of this movie is how Leo communicates through T9 word predictor without looking.  It sets it to an incredibly short window of time, and anyone who used it can completely understand how plausible that is.

It'll be wild trying to explain that scene to my daughter when I have her watch it someday.

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2 hours ago, Your Mom said:

There was at least one other guy that didn’t kill people because there was a second rat in the crew, the guy that got the address wrong on purpose. 

that's interesting.  you think boggs from shawshank was a rat too?

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19 minutes ago, ImNotMarkinson said:

that's interesting.  you think boggs from shawshank was a rat too?

It’s been a few years since I’ve seen it but I believe the guy who sent them to the wrong address straight up told Leo he was also a cop right before he died.  

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9 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:


I dont understand this opinion. Now that Ive seen Infernal Affairs, which was an inspiring, yet flawed original and lost something in translation, I especially dont understand this opinion.

There’s not any aspect of the movie that was not well done and seeing Nicholson act in a thriller with a great director is a rare treat. And I can rewatch this movie a million times.

With respect to the mole hunt, keep in mind moles and informants arent always good guys. That Costello himself was a mole proves the point and adds to the storytelling - irony and shit.

I didn't say it was a bad film - I like The Departed. I would consider it a great film.

A lot of people act like it is one of the best movies ever made and it makes me wonder how many movies they've actually seen. There is a massive gap between films like The Godfather or Goodfellas and The Departed imo. 

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I didn't say it was a bad film - I like The Departed. I would consider it a great film.
A lot of people act like it is one of the best movies ever made and it makes me wonder how many movies they've actually seen. There is a massive gap between films like The Godfather or Goodfellas and The Departed imo. 

Ive seen a lot of “not as good as Infernal Affairs” talk online and on Surly. Much more than think it’s a Top 25 movie.
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On 9/30/2025 at 11:38 PM, ztejas said:

The entire film is wildly overrated if that makes you feel any better. 

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On 10/1/2025 at 10:06 PM, Eskimohorn said:


Ive seen a lot of “not as good as Infernal Affairs” talk online and on Surly. Much more than think it’s a Top 25 movie.

That seems like confirmation bias. It's #38 on IMDB all-time and won 4 Oscars and there are a lot of people in here getting pissed that I called it overrated. 

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On 10/1/2025 at 12:18 PM, Your Mom said:

There was at least one other guy that didn’t kill people because there was a second rat in the crew, the guy that got the address wrong on purpose. 

There’s a deleted scene that explains why the other potential rat/maybe a cop didn’t out Costigan.

Also, the whole thing is showing how gangsters are dumb and paranoid. Costello has moles upon moles and is also an FBI informant. It’s even possible he knows who Costigan is but has decided it’s better to keep an eye on him. 
 

The bigger plothole is a high-ranking state trooper overseeing organized crime gets thrown off a building in broad daylight and the FBI doesn’t haul in their local kingpin informant and change the terms of the deal. Even in the height of post 9/11 terrorist hunting, that shit isn’t going to to fly for the FBI, especially if Costello has really only been feeding them bullshit. 

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On 10/1/2025 at 9:53 PM, ztejas said:

I didn't say it was a bad film - I like The Departed. I would consider it a great film.

A lot of people act like it is one of the best movies ever made and it makes me wonder how many movies they've actually seen. There is a massive gap between films like The Godfather or Goodfellas and The Departed imo. 

I think Goodfellas and The Departed are on the same tier.

Godfather is its own tier

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1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I think Goodfellas and The Departed are on the same tier.

Godfather is its own tier

Godfather 1 + 2 together stand alone as a saga but Goodfellas is in the same tier of either as a stand-alone. 
 

Departed isn’t there with them, or other Scorsese greatness like Raging Bull.

I also forgot how selling ultra-high tech microprocessors to the Chinese is the Macguffin for this movie.  Yeah, that’s for sure another way for the FBI to end whatever deal they have with you LOL. 

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55 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Godfather 1 + 2 together stand alone as a saga but Goodfellas is in the same tier of either as a stand-alone. 
 

Departed isn’t there with them, or other Scorsese greatness like Raging Bull.

I also forgot how selling ultra-high tech microprocessors to the Chinese is the Macguffin for this movie.  Yeah, that’s for sure another way for the FBI to end whatever deal they have with you LOL. 

I love Goodfellas but I don’t find the rise and fall story arc quite as compelling as the Godfather’s theme of being unable to outrun who you are.

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3 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I love Goodfellas but I don’t find the rise and fall story arc quite as compelling as the Godfather’s theme of being unable to outrun who you are.

I just think they’re trying to do different things. The Godfather is using the crime setting to really explore themes around family, lower, fate, etc.

Like a lot of Scorsese’s best, Goodfellas is about showing you who characters are through actions and not a story.

And in this case, they reel you in and charm you and by the end you should feel bad for sympathizing with any of them. Everything they do and say, including the codes they use to justify what they do for themselves, is ultimately just bullshit that hurts them and everyone around them. 

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Remember first Harry Potter movie?   They going the great dining hall and they have a magical feast?   Why couldn’t Hogwarts feed everyone?   Or do muggles shit rainbow sherbet when they eat enchanted vittles?

Probably book nerd shit: House elves (like Dobby) have to slave away to make them food and clean up after the wizards. In the book, Hermoine makes a stand for elf rights.
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On 2/21/2020 at 4:59 PM, mdmost said:

There was a cutscene where Imam tells Indy and Sallah they cannot touch or look inside the Ark, lest they face the wrath of God. 

They also were supposed to film a scene with Indy riding on the top of sub as it stays at periscope depth.

 

Not really plot holes, just a lack of explanation for the movie going audience. 
 

The Bible Lau’s out the rules for how to treat the ark.  It can only be carried on the wooden poles, it must not be touched, and it must be covered and not looked at or into. In the Old Testament various people are killed by God via the ark for breaking them. 
 

Indy as an archaeologist deeply into antiquities would surely know this. I prefer the “no explanation” version as it’s in keeping with Indy’s respect and knowledge versus the Nazis who are only interested in how to weaponize the ark. 
 

WWII submarines were diesel electric and ran on the surface most of the time. More efficient, faster, and more comfortable. It’s 1936 in peacetime. A sub in transit would be at least at snorkel depth unless they did a drill or something. But this one had places to go. 

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The biggest one from more recent times that just genuinely pisses me off...despite being a fan of the overall movie is Interstellar. And it is not even the sci-fi tesseract bullshit inside the black hole that bothers me but the mechanism for getting there by entering the black hole in a physical state inside an earth made "ranger" made of elemental materials. For a movie they tried to sell as science-y based and "oh look, we hired one of the world's foremost experts on black holes to consult," that part was unbelievably offensive. MM just rides an earth-made spacecraft for like 90 seconds into the accretion disk of a black hole before "nosing down" across the event horizon.

The temperature of an accretion disk around a stellar-mass black hole depends on the black hole’s mass, the accretion rate, etc... but generally, the outer regions of the disk have temperatures that are relatively “cool,” about a few thousand to tens of thousands of Kelvin similar to the surface of stars. However, the inner regions of the disk reach millions of Kelvin. For stellar-mass black holes like the one in interstellar (say 5–20 solar masses, being nice here and assuming it wasn't supposed to be a supermassive black hole), the inner disk often reaches around 10⁶–10⁷ K...this is hot enough to emit strongly in X-rays and incredible radiation.

Step 1, temperature...if we took the best refractory solid materials we know of such as TaHfC...they soften/evaporate/fully ionize at like 4,400 K. At 10⁷ K, all bonds are gone and matter is a plasma, not a solid. But let's say we pretend there's some bullshit that is a billion orders of magnitude more refractory, the radiation flux and pressure anywhere close to an accretion disk has luminosity 32 orders of magnitude greater than when steel would be instantly vaporized. Even if one assumes some sort of magnetic field stronger than the strongest forces in the universe to protect it, the x-ray/photon energy would cause all the elemental electrons to ablate since photons aren't impacted by a magnetic field...also creating a particle environment problem. the ship would be getting rammed with dense plasma ions and electrons moving at near the speed of light with ram pressure that erode any physical surface immediately. Assuming you could move at precisely the right speed at near the speed of light, and somehow avoid being in the midst of the disk itself's materials, the tidal gradient is only millions of G's that no material would frustrate structural failure and not pulverize a human body. There is simply no way around the thermodynamics.

putting aside most of the above issues (as well as time dilation issues) of getting close to the accretion disk, the reality is that the closest any earth made material could get to even the outer accretion disk of a stellar black hole is based simply on passive heat rejection would be 28 astronomical units (28 times the distance from earth to sun) before even active, multi-sided and stable radiator coolant systems could simply balance the absorbed flux. Meanwhile, Matthew and his ranger with the afterburners go from that to entering the black hole in like 40 seconds and aren't ionized and then turned into plasma. It took them a couple of years to get to Saturn which is less distance than that. Completely insane bullshit that is an offensively stupid mechanism for Nolan to even get to his sci-fi tesseract to go full-blown idiotic.

fun movie though.

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The dragons in GoT drive me nuts because the warfare is just “medieval (kind of) but with dragons! In fact they could/should completely change what Daenerys’ armies do.

- It took almost no time at all for aerial warfare implementers to realize that they should bomb targets at night. You achieve surprise and you make it incredibly difficult to shoot at you, and the damage is harder to mitigate. In a medieval type environment? No spotlights, no AA beyond bolts that are heavy, require perfect aim, and cannot shoot rapidly. All this daylight air raid stuff is bullshit; Americans did it in WWII to try and achieve precision and that’s irrelevant in this context. 
 

- Related, having a long-range strike when your enemy has none and no real defenses changes the game for campaigning. Daenerys uses them like CAS while her army engages on the ground. But dragons are strategic and not tactical.  Any army trying to muster and then move at the speed of foot and ox cart is entirely vulnerable to dragon fire. Especially— again— at night when they are in camp. Daenerys needs scouts to find the enemy army and then, when it’s dark, burn them all alive in camp.

Her foes here would be reduced to insurgent warfare because assembling any meaningful force in the field would just make them a target. And in fact, this happens when one side of a war has complete air superiority (Afghanistan, Iraq). 

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Not really plot holes, just a lack of explanation for the movie going audience. 
 
The Bible Lau’s out the rules for how to treat the ark.  It can only be carried on the wooden poles, it must not be touched, and it must be covered and not looked at or into. In the Old Testament various people are killed by God via the ark for breaking them. 
 
Indy as an archaeologist deeply into antiquities would surely know this. I prefer the “no explanation” version as it’s in keeping with Indy’s respect and knowledge versus the Nazis who are only interested in how to weaponize the ark. 
 
WWII submarines were diesel electric and ran on the surface most of the time. More efficient, faster, and more comfortable. It’s 1936 in peacetime. A sub in transit would be at least at snorkel depth unless they did a drill or something. But this one had places to go. 

How did the top men get it in that crate?

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