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4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Bro hysterics like this on a Saturday morning are wild lol. Fox must really be hitting their Epstein counter coverage HARD

Cool.  You’re on record as not giving a fuck about immigrants dying while being trafficked.  Noted.

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38 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Are you playing dumb or a useful idiot?

here is one of dozens of such cases.

further its well documented that thousands died crossing deserts led by coyotes ill supplied 


 

 

Again, really?

 

From 2021.  The border was absolutely NOT secure and closed in 2021

So, is it your position that no humans are being smuggled under the Trump Administration?

And that Biden was just waving trucks full of immigrants across the border?  Bienvenidos!

Are we at all concerned about the number of migrant deaths in ICE custody?

Do we care about family separation?

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10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, is it your position that no humans are being smuggled under the Trump Administration?

And that Biden was just waving trucks full of immigrants across the border?  Bienvenidos!

Are we at all concerned about the number of migrant deaths in ICE custody?

Do we care about family separation?

Notable you don’t acknowledge the willful ignorance of your post.

 

I doubt any illegal activity ever gets to absolute zero no matter how much enforcement.

 

Yes, pretty much.

 

Certainly.  Please share instances of migrants dying in custody of ICE.  We can compare tallies and make a judgement on which causes more death.

 

Yes.  Unfortunately families are separated all the time for all manner of crimes being punished.

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28 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Cool.  You’re on record as not giving a fuck about immigrants dying while being trafficked.  Noted.

But you are ok with immigrants being disappeared or separated from their families?

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4 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

But you are ok with immigrants being disappeared or separated from their families?

Go ahead and read up thread where I said I am not ok with how they are enforcing the law currently.

 

 

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55 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

No, it’s Biden’s fault his administration steadfastly refused to enforce immigration laws and thousands died as a result.  See above.

The fact he scrambled to attempt to cover up his mendacity doesn’t change anything.

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If a tractor trailer full of dead immigrants were found at the border, would the border patrol acknowledge it? Under Biden they would have. I have doubts they would today.

immigrant deaths are awful. Which is why we need a sane and accessible immigration system. Arresting green card holders and asylum seekers is neither sane nor accessible.

Now, let’s talk about children starving, and about deaths due to disease, that our country used to prevent and which we now ignore. Estimates say those deaths will number in the tens of millions.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5452513/trump-usaid-foreign-aid-deaths

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33 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, is it your position that no humans are being smuggled under the Trump Administration?

And that Biden was just waving trucks full of immigrants across the border?  Bienvenidos!

Are we at all concerned about the number of migrant deaths in ICE custody?

Do we care about family separation?

Why does anyone treat him like he’s honest? Yall gotta stop trying to reason with brain worms 

He’s a fucked up person that believes fucked up things should happen because people were born on the wrong side a line a bunch of dudes made up a couple centuries ago

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It always, always, always boils down to "Well the Democrats are flawed, so they left me no choice but to vote for the biggest group of cruel, incompetent, corrupt, nakedly racist fuckstains our government has ever seen. It's actually their fault when you think about it."

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20 hours ago, Incredulity said:

I can't fathom posters here who have a childlike understanding of politics and how adults have to deal with imperfect decisions day in and day out no matter who is elected.

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32 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Surrenders noted.

Childish.

32 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

 

”lets discuss USAID then!!!!”

 

You pointed to the 2,700 deaths of migrants at the border, under Biden, and seem to believe addressing that danger justifies turnip’s policies. Troops in cities, funding ICE at a level the Marines don’t enjoy, masked agents, pulling people off the street and disappearing them without due process, detaining children for six months, arrests outside of schools, deportations in defiance of court orders, etc, etc.

Those migrant deaths which happened during Biden’s years account for 0.000019 of the deaths this country might have prevented/might still prevent with USAID. And you mock them. 
 

Children are often monstrous, so this tracks.

 

Edited to note that increases in ICE’s detention budget, alone, is more than twice what used to be the total USAID budget, and almost four times the proposed socialist bailout of farmers.

 

tHe NaTiOnAl DeBt!

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1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

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Dude your claim that posters here “have a childlike understanding of politics” is laughable.  What people are struggling with is an administration that completely ignores the laws of the land in their “enforcement” efforts.  Rounding up people strictly based on the color of their skin, denying ANY measure of due process, and ignoring the courts’ efforts to check them is not “adulting.”  It’s criminal.  It’s not what is necessary.  It is what they choose to do.  You, sir, are an idiot.

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6 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Dude your claim that posters here “have a childlike understanding of politics” is laughable.  What people are struggling with is an administration that completely ignores the laws of the land in their “enforcement” efforts.  Rounding up people strictly based on the color of their skin, denying ANY measure of due process, and ignoring the courts’ efforts to check them is not “adulting.”  It’s criminal.  It’s not what is necessary.  It is what they choose to do.  You, sir, are an idiot.

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Read my posts.

my comment was in direct response to a specific post and not a defense of current enforcement means and methods.

but as per usual everything here devolves into self righteous leftist purity test.

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1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Basic morality has become a "leftist purity test". 

 

 

Hot take.  Policies enabling hundreds to be cooked to death in tractor trailer cargo boxes is, “basic morality”

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If Biden wasn't enforcing immigration laws then why did people need to be smuggled in a truck? I thought the border was open. Was that wrong?

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19 minutes ago, elfenix said:

If Biden wasn't enforcing immigration laws then why did people need to be smuggled in a truck? I thought the border was open. Was that wrong?

Exactly.  How were Biden policies leading to human smuggling.  Open borders wouldn’t require smuggling.

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3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

clown GIF by Team Coco
 

“OpeN BorDeRS mEaNS lItERaLLy OpEN!!1!!1!”

as a wise man once said, i can't fathom posters here who have a childlike understanding of politics and how adults have to deal with imperfect decisions day in and day out no matter who is elected.

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12 minutes ago, elfenix said:

as a wise man once said, i can't fathom posters here who have a childlike understanding of politics and how adults have to deal with imperfect decisions day in and day out no matter who is elected.

From your keyboard to gods ears



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